- 1 TrekStor
- 2 LG players
- 3 List of top five players
- 4 Recording in Vorbis
- 5 Pretec Allegro may need firmware update
- 6 Any player with Removable Memory Cards
- 7 Samsung / Yepp
- 8 UniBrain iZak
- 9 Entempo Spirit
- 10 Lexar LDP-800 dropped
- 11 Hong Kong Dream-tech Electronic DT-202, works? please confirm
- 12 Trekstor i.Beat Cube
- 13 The Muzio jm300 / jm-300 does NOT play Vorbis
- 14 Layout of the PortablePlayers list and Feature matrix
- 15 NEXBlack out
- 16 Sumvision M18/S1
- 17 Humble A2 Review
- 18 iRiver e100
- 19 Bought an vorbis-enabled player recently? Tell us where!
- 20 Move Flash/HD-sections to dedicated pages
There are many more portable players by TrekStor than the i.beat 500 supporting ogg vorbis.
Please add products to the main page.
I think LG's player MF-FM30 looks nice. BUT, does it have support for UMS (the products homepage doesn't say so so I guess not) or does there software work in Linux? Somebody who knows? Hannulan - 23:48, 1 oktober 2006
List of top five players
It would be a good idea to have a few (five?) players at the top with images that are considered to be the best *recent* devices. I don't think any of the MP3 using masses will use this page to choose their next music player unless it lists recent devices, and presents a choice of five or six at the top, with images, and links to sites that they can buy them from. Also, could someone put up a notice to remind people it's not OGG, or Ogg! It's Ogg Vorbis, or if you must, Vorbis. - thehumanerror 25th December 2006
I totally agree with the above. This page was next to useless for me when I was shopping for a Vorbis player since I was overwhelmed with choices. Add to that the fact that many products have been discontinued or cannot be bought new and there's a recipe for disaster. - erpo41 October 17th, 2007
I also agree with the above; the primary reason I am not using Ogg Vorbis (I keep a parallel collection of mp3 and flac files) is I cannot easily find a portable player. I don't know that reorganizing this wiki page will help. I did comb through this page; basically all of the listed hard disk players are from one off manufacturers or not being manufactured any more. There are plenty of nice flash storage based devices and cell phones (from Samsung and others), but that is not what I am looking for. Also, I'm not interested in hacking my iPod. (I do embedded linux development enough at work; I'll pay someone else to get my media player working). Until this is addressed, Ogg Vorbis is going to remain out of use; which is a shame because for every other reason it is the best (in my opinion). --Kevin Holzer, January 10, 2009
- Yes. This is a good idea. Create a section at the top. Polish it well. And perhaps add a free-licensed photo. Anyone up for it?--Ivo 06:41, 17 October 2007 (PDT)
I would rather see just a simple feature matrix (sorted so that unavailable devices are listed at the bottom, or just not listed at all). See talk below. Maybe preferred choises could be raised to the top thought! I agree that current list is quite unusable.
Recording in Vorbis
I would like to know which Players can record in Vorbis?! -- 18.104.22.168 17:03, 26 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Ditto. Absolutely vital information. Do any of the players listed also record in Vorbis? If anyone has experience with A player, please state specifically whether it does or does not record in Vorbis.Nickhill 15:04, 4 June 2006 (PDT)
- Never heard of one that does, and there isn't a fixed point reference encoder, which makes it unlikely.
Pretec Allegro may need firmware update
I recently purchased a Pretec Allegro, but was unable to play Oggs for three months, until the firmware update was made available on 14 or 15 March 2005. Now it works well! (So far, listening to -q3 Oggs). I'd hope that units purchased after this date already has the firmware update, but you never know. Installing the update is as simple as placing the .rom on the USB-storage-device media (eg flash disk), starting up the unit, and pressing the play button. -- Hugo van der Merwe
- How much battery runtime do you get playing Oggs compared with playing mp3? Phr 02:05, 27 Aug 2005 (PDT)
Any player with Removable Memory Cards
The NexBlack (see PortablePlayers ) has removable compact flash and batteries.
Every single Vorbis-capable portable player out there seems to come with built-in flash memory. Which is stupid, because I don't want to fire up my computer and plug in the player every time I get tired of the tracks on my player. Plus flash memory has a limited lifetime (write cycles) and so does your player with built-in memory. The same applies for built-in rechargable batteries.
Now when would you ever need to buy your second device without any moving parts if you could just change flash memory and batteries? Ok, that's the industrie's point of view but not mine. I want to go on vacation with music and batteries for one week of non-stop music - without a power source or computer nearby.
So, any hint to where I might find a portable audio player that can play back ogg vorbis files and uses SD flash cards (and preferably AAA-batteries) would be greatly appreciated.
- SanDisk Sansa e250/e260/e270/e280 has a microSD-card slot. With ROCKbox it plays Ogg/Vorbis and more.Nostromo 15:26, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
The Pretec Allegro is not the slickest player out there, it's LCD backlight seems to give off a high-pitched whine, which not everyone can hear (it kind-of screams in my ears though, so I put the backlight timer on 1 second so it doesn't scream too long). It is, however, the only one I now know of that can play Oggs, and uses removable media. If you want a nicely portable device, you have to use Pretec's "iDisk tiny" usb flash disk, the only thing that will fit inside. You can also, however, connect some USB SD-card reader with it's cable, then listen to Oggs off of SD. A little unwieldy, but, it works, and is the only thing *I* know of. (I stopped following developments in December though, when I bought it...)
Samsung / Yepp
Moved to Talk:PortablePlayersSamsungYepp
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this; I'm new to wikis.
The UniBrain iZak was added, then removed recently, with the comment that it doesn't claim to play Ogg Vorbis.
The FAQ is available here: iZak FAQ and Question/Answer 24 says:
'22. Can iZak™ support OGG audio files?
Yes, iZak™ fully supports OGG playback using the latest firmware.'
- I was the one that removed it. In their specs linked from the main page, I saw that they listed only MP3 and WMA support for music formats. Obviously they need to update their promotional material! I went ahead and added the iZak back in, making a point to mention that the most current version of the firmware now supports Ogg Vorbis and linking to their FAQ as evidence. Saxifrage 02:36, 5 May 2005 (PDT)
- Splendid. I didn't want to just stick it back after it had been taken out.--Ipl 05:14, 5 May 2005 (PDT)
This inexpensive player from Entempo had listed Vorbis as a "Supported Audio Format", but the device will not index the Vorbis files into it's menus -- let alone play the files. Tested with both the stock and most recent firmware, May 29, 2005. Vendor had been contacted and removed Vorbis support claims from their website, but has not provided any resolution to customers which purchased the product expecting this support. The company's webpage has disappeared as of Feb 2006.
Lexar LDP-800 dropped
It seems that Lexar have abondoned the LDP-800. The following was posted by a user on dapreview.net " Unfortunately, lexar will not offer the LDP-800, but will focus instead on its existing LDP Players that already offer appealing features and benefits to meet a variety of consumer needs." Shame.--Ipl 06:15, 22 Jul 2005 (PDT)
There's more info on that dapreview thread that indicates some confusion within Lexar. Currently, it looks like the release is going to happen in early September.
Update 2005-11-11: after inquiries to Lexar's "new products" personnel, I received a telephone message that the LDP-800 will definitely "is not going to see the light of day." Ask me if you want details. I agree that it's a shame since this looked to be an outstanding product. --dfavro
Hong Kong Dream-tech Electronic DT-202, works? please confirm
http://hkdream-tech.com An ebay seller says that it can reproduce Vorbis. This is unconfirmed. In the manufacturer web it says: MP3, WMA, WAV, DMV and etc.
Some webpage also says that it works on Windows, Mac and Linux. Also unconfirmed. Further investigation required.
Trekstor i.Beat Cube
This player seems to be very similar to the Samsung Yepp YP-T6, possibly with the same problems regarding Vorbis playback. Trekstor has moved info about this player from "MP3-Player" to the "Archive" section which propably means that it is not produced anymore.
The Muzio jm300 / jm-300 does NOT play Vorbis
NB this is the jm-300 (not 100 or 200)
I bought this a month ago. I've been unable to play Vorbis files on it. It simply shows these as 'etc' files and skips over them.
Pitty really, this was the main reason I chose this player.
I've seen lots of discussion about the muzio playing oggs, is there anybody there who owns a jm300 and is actually playing oggs ? I can't help think I've juts missed something basic.
Layout of the PortablePlayers list and Feature matrix
- Is there something very wrong with those proposals? I mean, is there any reason why (even a simple) feature matrix just could not be applied right now? It would probably solve 'list of top 5 players' problem above too. Just list something basic from the main features, name, size, weight, price, battery (internal, aa, aaa, ..), capasity, flash card type (sd, microsd, ..) , availability (current or discontinued), supported formats, charging (usb or propietary or none). Link to the longer comments. No complicated sorting or anything too fancy. No icons. Name can be a abbreviation to save space, use it as a link to current comments.
I got my NEXBlack player today from Frontier Labs. It is a nice gadget with sleek design. They have corrected the occasional snap-sounds that came between tracks and it is overall more usable now. Vorbis-files also play fine, but the current firmware doesn't have Vorbis-tag reader, which is somewhat major drawback. The music selection works through mp3-tags and you can select by album, artist, genre and playlist, but since Vorbis tags won't work you have to select "unordered" to play them. Vorbis-files are all listed in one big list. I hope they either implement a Vorbis-tag reader or revert to old Nex IIe system where you could select by folder in the flash disc. But for the cheap price ($89), it is a good player... waiting for a new firmware..
I've just got the 2GB Sumvision and it plays the OGG files I've tested so far. Should I add it to the list? Steevc 04:05, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
Humble A2 Review
Bought an vorbis-enabled player recently? Tell us where!
I have started a page that should allow people easier purchasing of vorbis-enabled players: PortablePlayers_per_Place
Everyone, who bought an vorbis-enabled player recently should update the page with place and model.
Move Flash/HD-sections to dedicated pages
IMHO the PortablePlayers page is too long. I want to split it into several pages for each main section. Like PortablePlayers/Flash, PortablePlayers/Harddisk etc.. Sure, one have to fix some links then, but I am convinced this step would increase the usability a lot. What do you think about that? --Gsauthof 01:20, 31 March 2009 (PDT)