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I don't know a lot about the internals from Icecast and the like, but it would be ...to abandon any direct interaction with the actual streaming server, and i don't know if that is in your interest. ...

...e of the tools that use it is generally pretty good. But some applications don't provide their own documentation, and there are some points that people sh If you need really high speed and don't care if the bitrate is enormous (or the quality is really poor) you can u ...

- d: We don't know how long a slot we're getting, around an hour or two. We need to dec - d: If you don't have two hours of material let me know ...

CG for raw transform, no prediction: 'I don't know yet' We don't vote in the IETF! ...

...eate Xiph.Org conference swag: brochures, posters, toys, demo disks, etc. (don't do this without coordinating with folks) * Local blogging platform so JM / Xiphmont don't need to use livejournal— in particular having nice media support would ...

- jm: The impression I got was that the reason other codecs don't ge tthis is that they dont' run a prefilter and it gets blurred over and ...date and blurs again. So in our codec we unblur, and if there is noise, we don't beep bluring it, but retain it. ...

...n't match up (FIXME: is this actually in the code ?), or the lacing values don't match up) it will increment the page counter by 1, which thus shows up as ...ed from lossless streaming''' case: as above, but you can seek. You still don't have eos pages ...

...ully it will work better once it's caught up with the current code base. I don't think we have any clips that are great for testing it. - jm: These I don't think would look really well in the current deringing filter. That will d ...

gmaxwell is on vacation, so don't pick him as a reviewer until the 18th :) ...previous open loop data to iterate and converge on what we would get.... i don't see a closed form solution but the iterative solution converges. We can d ...

Sing songs of praise to Operation Transcode. Help your friends (who don't think you're crazy) to do the same thing. Help make the world a better p ...colleagues in a never-ending cycle. But PowerPoint presentations and WMVs don't help the Open Media cause, do they? ...

- j: I don't think we should gate the release on 32x32 and deringing. - jm: We don't need as much energy preservation for video, but it's still good. Another ...

...per block which disables the filter entirely for the block (gain of 0). I don't have crossfade, but I didn't notice much of an issue with blocking artifa ...n the edges of the dunes. The color edges are just chroma contrast so they don't show up. I'm not sure yet how to handle chroma. THere's many ways to hand ...

- s: I still need to deal correctly with matching and padding, but I don't have a better plan, no. ...Please start with the actual test for reconstruction noise, otherwise you don't know where the problem lies. It's quite possible that EDI works will well ...

* ''If browsers don't widely implement a feature'', or if authors don't use a feature, or if the uses of the feature are inconsequential of funda ...s as they do with the spec; they aren't just for finding browser bugs.) We don't yet have a good story with respect to test suites, sadly. If you want to ...

...ing this thing. i'm seeing a lot of bheavior with the new predictors which don't just use DC for the 16x16 case. it moves some low frequency energy into H - derf: we don't use adaptive quantization so we should be spending more bits than we actu ...

- t: The MVs also worked. So far it looked like the MVs don't get screwed up, but I need to look at them more. For coding the predictor - d: I don't know what you mean. ...

...e uncompressed reference. So it's useful to have it lying around anyway. I don't know if we want to motion compensate the old reference though. - d: I don't think skip decisions helps you at all. You're tlaking about feed forward ...

- jm: if we don't use 4x4, it's even worse. look at http://jmvalin.ca/video/fruits_low2.png - d: we certainly don't. ...

* Don't code blocks that are outside the image * Re-order bitstream (e.g., don't code all MVs at the front, etc.) ...

...ce yourself. Hang out with us on IRC. Give us a chance to get to know you. Don't be shy. Multimedia programming is technically demanding and while we do e ...oject would you like to work on? If it's one from our list of suggestions, don't just copy the title from there - tell us a bit about what approach(es) yo ...

- jm: i don't know exactly what i want or need, but i watn to know whether my code is g ...ere to produce a motion compensated reference so you can blend it, but you don't have to spend a lot of bits coding it. this winds up being a pretty hard ...

...ere is what it actually looks like, because for something like deringing I don't trust our metrics. Do you have something we can look at? - m: I was there for some of it but don't really have a good understanding, have you written this up? ...

- x: Still working on pseudo-directional transforms. Though if it works (don't know yet), it is a varaint of Jean-Marc's idea -- encoding a strip of pix - x: In the transform domain they don't look different. ...

...age better make the curves better. it's a good part of our process that we don't have to care about the metrics. - j: summary: we don't need to beat webp for honolulu but do need to be better than where we are ...

...ck size switching right now has kind of a high rate for mode signalling. I don't know yet whether it's caused by the block size decorrelating the mode val - d: That's interesting but I don't know the answer. ...

...room through a '''[https://webchat.freenode.net/ web interface]''' if you don't have an IRC client. * '''Do''' send separate "format-fixing" patches, making sure they don't change Opus' functionality at all. ...

- jm: i don't like copyright assignment. that's my only issue. - d: i don't see any reaosn it wouldn't work, but i don't know how you plan on handling the sudden changes at block boundaries. ...

- jm: i don't know - jm: i don't know ...

...sues and also learned that the blocksize switching is helping Haar which I don't understand - d: I have been looking at how I would actually want to do this and I don't think the per band interpolation that is in there is what we want to do ...

- jack: don't assign all reviews to tim by default :) ...nd i'm trying to investigate why. tim suggested i look for DC shift, but I don't thin it's a problem. He suggested I do a psnr for each kind of pixel and ...

- d: That's a different thing. I don't think we should make this meeting longer just for that. - jm: I don't know who else tried block size switching with current master, but whoever ...

- jm: i don't think it matters in the short term - d: we don't want the spacing to be linear. there's no reason it needs to be. ...

...yond flat to jpeg-style. multiscale SSIM will move where the other metrics don't. - xiphmont: what about people who notice we collect data but don't use it? ...

smarter: why do we need a limit? What happens if we don't have one? derf: x264 does this in its lookahead thread. We don't have a lookahead thread. We could copy their design (which requires rate ...

| don't code outside frame | don't use SAD (Sum of Absolute Differences) ...

u: I don't know if that causes other blocking artifacts when you don't run the post filter there t: I also have one for stieners generic SSIM patch, the only issue is that I don't think that it is used anywhere ...

- jm: exactly. i don't know how the actual quality relates (aside from raw metrics). once I saw - jm: before trying to train 16x16, which i think is doomed (way too hard, we don't code edges at 16x16). how about we get 4x4 to work with TF. just getting ...

- g: that's assuming we don't turn down the scaling at some high rate - jm: i don't think we should make the normal non-lossless case worse for lossless. ...

- jm: I don't see a way to avoid that. Mayber there is but I haven't seen it. I think t - d: I still think it is worth experimenting with. I don't think it will be as good as what you are doing now, but maybe it will be ...

- jm: I don't like automatic merges. ...thing that wavelets coders are doing where you don't have ringing but you don't geting any coding gain. ...

...size (because 32x32 doesn't work yet). I also run PSNR optimized because I don't have PSNRHVS or any of the other metrics that JM has. I switched JM's to - jm: I have a single matrix now, but I need to put back in interpolation. I don't think it's as bad as it was before, but I'm not sure exactly why. I've be ...

* [[Ghost]]: A "next-generation" audio codec (vapourware so far -- don't hold your breath) ...

- jm: We can build a table and if people don't want the table at least we know it's reasonable to compute. Are there a b - d: There's really only two. I don't want to do X-Y symmetries because transposing everything is expensive. Re ...

..., and it's a benchmark for future predictors. If you can't beat this, then don't bother. - j: What happens when the blocksizes don't match? ...

Both firmware variants don't support FLAC files. ...e-box. Even with a non-Korean-1.55 firmware they are still MTP devices and don't support Ogg Vorbis or AAC. ...

...ard to get exactly the same quantization for different block sizes and you don't want the block size decision to pick whatever block size is best calibrat ...soon as you change anything in the filter you change your QMs even if you don't change the numbers in the arrays. ...

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- x: I don't know that I would. When I say splitting the difference, the filters aren' - x: I don't have a filter that is prediction only that is capable of representing the ...

- x: the answer is I don't know, but I would like to know. - y: no I don't think so, ...

* YYY = Your name. If you'll be using snail-mail, don't forget to sign the letter with a pen! ...e you'll need to edit out the template to remove what shouldn't be there. Don't forget that asking for all of them at once is probably not wise. ...