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Bounties

2005-10-26T04:20:11Z

Kjoonlee: /* Ogg Vorbis Bitrate Peeling */

These are proposed bounty projects, similar to http://gnome.org/bounties/
or the [http://ghostscript.com/article/58.html Ghostscript bug bounty] program.
We don't have the same level of funding but could start a pot with $10-$100 and
let people contribute to specific bounties through paypal.

It would be helpful to list $ amounts which have been donated for each bounty, even if the foundation hasn't decided how much extra (if any) to allocate. --Tesseract

=== OggVorbis 5.1 ===
5.1 Sound encoding in Ogg Vorbis.

There are two steps here. Simple coupling and lowpass for the .1 channel, and a full set of tuned modes.
They should be separate bounties.

:This should be implemented with ambisonics as the internally coupled channels, and then use ambisonic g-format filters for en/dec coding from and to 5.1. This will allow correct playback on many different speaker layouts and an easy path to headphone support.

=== Xiph Quicktime Plugin ===
(See here for more info on this project: [http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/OggComponent/VorbisComponent])

You have to write a Quicktime Plugin for the Ogg container and the Xiph Codec Family.
[http://qtcomponents.sf.net qtcomponents] provides support for Ogg Vorbis and MNG. This could be used as start.
Xiph Quicktime Plugin has to support encoding/decoding for:
* Ogg Media container
**[http://qtcomponents.sf.net qtcomponents] ''has an operational pluggable API for import, it needs some work to be long term supportable. It does not have a pluggable API for exporting at this time.''
* Support for Chained Ogg Streams
**[http://qtcomponents.sf.net qtcomponents] ''imports chained files as multiple tracks in QuickTime. It does not create chained files during export.''
* Support for Icecast Streams (sending is optional)
**[http://qtcomponents.sf.net qtcomponents] ''implements nothing towards this item. First up is a reverse-engineering effort, as the specifications for a streaming media handler have not been published.''
* Support for Xiph Codec Family: Vorbis, Theora, FLAC, Speex, Writ
**[http://qtcomponents.sf.net qtcomponents] ''has code for Vorbis and Speex (not working at the moment) and there is code at [http://damien.drix.free.fr/qtflac/ Damien Drix's site] for FLAC (decode only).''
It must also be possible to use the Xiph codecs in .mov files in combination with other quicktime codecs.
*[http://qtcomponents.sf.net qtcomponents] ''supports embedding media encoded with Xiph codes into .mov files.''
The plugin should work with at least QuickTime 6.x and 7.x on Mac OS X and Windows. (Mac OS 9 would be nice but probably isn't as important.)

All work must be released under the GPL.

=== Aggressive low-bitrate libvorbis encoding improvements for Vorbis I ===
libvorbis has a lot of room for improvement in all quality/bitrate departments, particularly at the lower quality levels / bitrates. There are many directions to approach this problem from.
To claim this bounty, the following criteria would have to be met:
* A 25%-or-better reduction in bitrate for quality levels -1, 0, 1 on a reasonable testsuite while maintaining qualitative equivilence (or improvement) in community testing.
* No overall qualitative/bitrate regressions in quality levels 2 upwards
* Output ogg files compatible with Vorbis I spec
* Changes under suitable license for re-integration with Xiph.Org libvorbis

=== iPod playback support ===
The [http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ Linux on iPod] project has vorbis decode working (with alternate firmware) at a good fraction of realtime. It should be a small matter of optimization to get it working
for useful playback.

=== FLAC support in libfishsound ===
[http://annodex.net/software/libfishsound/ libfishsound] currently only supports Ogg Vorbis and Ogg Speex. It should be extended to support FLAC to complete the set of Xiph audio codecs.

=== Ogg Vorbis Bitrate Peeling ===
:Note: a bounty for this project has been posted on [https://launchpad.net/ launchpad.net]: [https://launchpad.net/bounties/ogg-vorbis-bitrate-peeling Add bitrate peeling to the standard libvorbis encoding library].
Ogg Vorbis bitrate peeling has been a topic brought up time and again to combat MP3 enthusiasts. But this feature does not actually exist, only the mere possibility abounds. This bounty is set to change that.
The peeler must meet the following criteria:
* Any Vorbis stream can be converted (not transcoded) to a lower quality setting
* Resulting streams would be identical or nearly identical to a stream generated by encoding the original source to the selected quality
* This process is reasonably fast (that is, signifigantly faster than re-encoding from source)
The following must also be accomplished to claim this bounty:
* The encoding libraries must be updated to create peelable Vorbis streams natively
* Old Vorbis streams must be peelable already, or convertable with a utility in order to be made peelable
* If older streams are not natively peelable, old unpeelable Vorbis streams must be identifiable and discernable from peelable streams in such a way as to facilitate transcoding streams from the old format
* All work submitted must be licenced under the GPL or compatible licence (excepting circumstances where other licences conflict) ''[Note: In the GPL-alike case the contribution couldn't be re-integrated with the reference Vorbis encoder/decoder... do we need to stipulate a libvorbis-compatible license like the BSD/X11?]''

Talk:Vorbis

2004-09-04T12:48:00Z

Kjoonlee:

DeleteThisPage

content moved to [[VorbisHardware]]

Talk:Vorbis Hardware

2004-09-04T12:47:49Z

Kjoonlee:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040208141117/http://wiki.xiph.org/VorbisHardware/editform

Follow the link above to get a less outdate cache.
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If I want something very portable and robust (for sport), then solid state storage is the way to go, right? Some flash based player?
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Hi, anyone else thinks the [[VorbisHardware]] page could be splitted into 4...6 sub pages in order to structure the growing content?

What about
* portable hardware players
* static hardware players
* third party software in hardware
* Projects
* Embedded

?? Comments, please!

WhatHappened

2004-09-04T05:04:21Z

Kjoonlee:

We used to have a Zope-based wiki here, but when our hosting imploded in the spring of 2004, we unfortunately lost
all of the content. We re-instated the website as a MediaWiki, which unfortunately doesn't do ReST, but has other
nice features. Thanks to j^ for installing it for us.

Anyway, please help repopulate.

A site that could help with repopulating is [http://web.archive.org the Web Archive]. Access this URL to get archived versions of the old Wiki: 'http://web.archive.org/*/http://wiki.xiph.org' Please note that in some cases, links such as 'http://web.archive.org/*/http://wiki.xiph.org/FrontPage' or 'http://web.archive.org/*/http://wiki.xiph.org/FrontPage/editform' might work better. (Adjust as neccessary.)

WhatHappened

2004-09-04T05:03:06Z

Kjoonlee:

We used to have a Zope-based wiki here, but when our hosting imploded in the spring of 2004, we unfortunately lost
all of the content. We re-instated the website as a MediaWiki, which unfortunately doesn't do ReST, but has other
nice features. Thanks to j^ for installing it for us.

Anyway, please help repopulate.

A site that could help with repopulating is [http://web.archive.org the Web Archive]. Access this URL to get archived versions of the old Wiki: 'http://web.archive.org/*/http://wiki.xiph.org' Please note that in some cases, 'http://web.archive.org/*/http://wiki.xiph.org/PageName' or 'http://web.archive.org/*/http://wiki.xiph.org/PageName/editform' might work better.

FLAC

2004-09-04T05:00:24Z

Kjoonlee:

== About ==

FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) maintains a lossless audio compression codec suitable for preserving audio without sacrificing any audio quality.

The FLAC project joined Xiph.org in late January 2003.

== External links ==

* [http://flac.sourceforge.net FLAC homepage]

MonthlyMeeting

2004-09-04T04:59:05Z

Kjoonlee:

We hold monthly organizational meetings on IRC to try and keep everyone going in the same direction.

They usually happen at irc.freenode.org's #xiphmeet channel, at 23:59 GMT, the first Wednesday of every month.

Vorbis Hardware

2004-09-04T04:56:13Z

Kjoonlee: Remove exclamation marks

This is a list of hardware, from PDAs to DVD players, that can play Ogg
Vorbis files. Hopefully you can find what you want, if not, come back next
week: several companies who can see the value and popularity of Vorbis are
working to support it on their hardware.
If you know of any other hardware or projects,
please add them to the list. More hardware info can be found at [http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/hardware.html].

== Consumer products that support Vorbis natively ==

<ul>
<li>[http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden]
Offers the [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ MP-130], a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player.


</li>
<li>
[http://www.neurosaudio.com/ Neuros] Digital Audio Computer

The Xiph.org Foundation has brought Vorbis playback to the Neuros Digital Audio
Computer. See <abbr title="Digital Innovations">DI</abbr>’s
[http://www.neurosaudio.com/press/news_item.aspx?itemID=80
press release
] about the agreement. See the
[http://www.neurosaudio.com/press/news_item.aspx?itemID=160 press release]
about the [http://www.xiph.org/neurosetta/ beta vorbis firmware].
The final version will be more optimized.


UPDATE: DI now fully supports Vorbis in firmware versions 1.45 and 2.x (available at [http://www.neurosaudio.com/support/support_updates.asp their Support
Updates page]). 
The Neuros Synchronization Manager for Windows (available at the above link) now also fully supports the addition of Vorbis files to the Neuros. *nix users can use either Xiph.org's [http://www.xiph.org/positron/ Positron] or Sean
Starkey's Java [http://neurosdbm.sf.net/ Neuros Database Manipulator], both of which
provide full Neuros database support and other features. 
The new generation Neuros II is now available, in capacities of up to 80GB.



</li>
<li>
[http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/rioaudio/ Rio]
[http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=220&cat=56 Karma]
http://empeg.comms.net/files/158359-pearlbuds.jpg
This 20Gb portable player has Ogg Vorbis and [FLAC] support, and has been
[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AQIFZ available from Amazon]
in the United States since October 2003, currently for US$285 (the box also includes
a US$20 mail-in rebate, valid if purchased before 2004-02-22).


The unit should now be available from UK online retailers (e.g.,
[http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AQIFZ Amazon UK],
currently for £280), though full volume won’t be available until mid-late
January 2004. A full retail launch in Europe is likely to happen in 2004.


[http://gear.ign.com IGN] have written
[http://gear.ign.com/articles/433/433165p1.html preview] and
[http://gear.ign.com/articles/458/458401p1.html review] articles about the Karma 20.
[http://www.riovolution.com Riovolution] has a good
[http://www.riovolution.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=15 Rio Karma forum] and a
[http://www.riovolution.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=17
nice gallery] of Rio Karma pictures.
The official product annoucement was reported in
[http://theregister.co.uk/content/54/32273.html The Register] and
[http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/11/1830252 Slashdot];
the Slashdot discussion included [http://slashdot.org/~pdh11 several informative
comments] from a Rio employee.


Note that firmware versions prior to 1.25 cause
[http://www.riovolution.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=546 stability problems]
for some people.
[http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/support/rio/product.asp?prodID=113 Version 1.25]
of the firmware fixes these problems, and also contains some
[http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/support/rio/downloads/Karma/RioKarmaFlash_125.txt new features].


Originally, Rio also planned to release a 40Gb version of the Rio Karma: the Rio Karma 40.
Unfortunately, it now appears that the Karma 40 is on indefinite hold, due to problems
sourcing the 40Gb hard drives from Hitachi.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver] iHP-100, iHP-115, iHP-120, iGP-100, possibly others

In September 2003, iRiver released [http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=355
a new announcement] detailing their plans for Vorbis playback.


In summary, most of their players are sure to support Vorbis, with the possible exception
of the iFP-1xx line, and iMP-50, 100, and 150 line. Getting Vorbis running on
the low-end iMP line may be difficult, and is quite difficult with the iFP-1xx
line. The announcement has more details.


Currently, firmware upgrades are available for the
[http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-100 iHP-100] and
[http://www.iriver.co.kr/product/info.asp?p_group=iHP&p_name=iHP-115 iHP-115]
(only available in Korea?), 10Gb and 15Gb portable players.
The [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-120 iHP-120],
a 20GB portable player, and the [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-140 iHP-140],
a 40GB version, supports Vorbis playback out of the box.
[http://gear.ign.com IGN] have reviews of the
[http://gear.ign.com/articles/435/435472p1.html iHP-100] and
[http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457818p1.html iHP-120].


The [http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iGP-100.asp iGP-100],
a 1.5Gb portable player, supports Vorbis,
according to the FAQ, though no firmware upgrade appears to be required.

New models out mid-2004 that replace the iHP series: 
Portable harddrive players with 10GB, 20GB, 40GB; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=H140H110, H120, H140] 
Portable harddrive players with USB host function and colour display: [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=H340 H320, H340] 
Portable media players with Linux OS and harddrive: [http://www.iriver.de/product/prod.php?p=PMP-140 PMP-120 and PMP-140] 
Portable flash memory players: [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-1090 iFP-1090]; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-1095 iFP-1095]; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-900%20Series iFP900 Series]; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-800%20Series iFP800 Series]; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-700%20Series iFP700 Series];

</li>
<li>
[http://www.phatnoise.com/products/index.php PhatNoise’s PhatBox],
[http://www.kenwoodusa.com/excelon/excelonKeg.jsp Kenwood’s Music Keg]
(“Powered by PhatNoise”)

These are in-car players that are installed into the trunk of your car and
hooked up to your car stereo. Both players run ARM-Linux and
support playback of [FLAC] files. Beta firmware to support Ogg Vorbis is available at
[http://phatbox.sixpak.org/phatbox/ogg.phtml
http://phatbox.sixpak.org/phatbox/ogg.phtml].

</li>
<li>
[http://www.kiss-technology.com/ KISS Technology’s] DP-450
and DP-500 DVD Players (and others?)

These DVD players can play .ogg files from CD-Rs and CD-RWs (but
reportedly have trouble with UTF-8 comments that aren’t also ASCII), as
well as DivX (but not DivX Vorbis). Reportedly, other DVD players from
KISS Technology also support Vorbis.


There are reportedly problems with some versions of the
firmware (2.6.6 ≤ x < 2.7.1), where playback is awful for a
bitrates greater than 128Kb/s.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.kenwood.com/ Kenwood's] VRS-N8100, DVF-N7080

The new line of networked hi-fi components are supposed to decode Ogg Vorbis over the
Ethernet port: the A/V receiver VRS-N8100 and the DVD player DVF-N7080. They are
available in Germany in September.

<li>
[http://www.mpsharp.com/ MPST Digital Jukebox]

The MPST Digital Jukebox is a Linux PC designed for audio playback
and sold as a stereo component, which of course can play Vorbis.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.ifreemax.com/ Freemax] FW-960

This hardware manufacturer’s new CD-R portable
supports Ogg Vorbis playback out of the box. It will have 48 hours
of WMA playback if an external battery pack (2 AA batteries) is used.
In Korea, its retail price is 189,000 KRW, or approximately 160 USD.


More information is available (in Korean) on the product page for the
[http://www.ifreemax.com/html/product.shtml FreeMax FW-960].


The FreeMax FW-960 is also known as the mpman MP-CD550.

</li>
<li>

[http://www.umax.de Umax/Yamada] have a few standalone DVD players that support
Vorbis.

</li>
<li>

[http://www.neuston.com Neuston] provides a standalone DVD player (model DVX-1201)
that supports Vorbis.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.samsungusa.com/ Samsung]

The MCD-CM600 is now available in Korea. It is a CD portable that can play Vorbis, MP3, and WMA.
[http://www.kbench.com/hardware/?no=22319&pg=4 Page with photo of MCD-CM600].
[http://www.kbench.com/iview.jsp?file=/kbench/article/2003_10/k22319p4n10.jpg Closeup of MCD-CM600].


The [http://samsung.ca/cgi-bin/nasecabc/en/b2c/product/product_detail.jsp?LoginFlag=NO&prod_path=%2fConsumer+Products%2fTV,+Video+%26+Audio%2fDigital+Products%2fYepp&prod_id=YP-60V/XAC YP-60V] is a portable 256MB player, that comes with additional functions for athletes.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.exonion.com/ Havin] Exonion HVC-400E,
also known as
[http://www.princeton.co.jp/ Princeton] Pocket Beat airCD

The Havin HVC-400E, also known as the Princeton airCD
is probably on sale in Japan since late November, 2003.

</li>
</ul>
 
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== Consumer products that support Vorbis via third-party software ==

<ul>
<li>Many PalmOS 5 powered PDAs:

Using
[http://www.pocket-tunes.com/
NormSoft’s Pocket Tunes software]
($14.95, free 15-day trial), or
[http://www.aerodromesoftware.com/
AeroPlayer]
(free), many Palm-based PDAs should play Vorbis.


According to the homepages of Pocket Tunes and AeroPlayer following devices are supported (can anyone confirm this?):
<ul>
<li>PalmOne Treo 600</li>
<li>PalmOne Tungsten T</li>
<li>PalmOne Tungsten T2</li>
<li>PalmOne Tungsten T3</li>
<li>PalmOne Tungsten C</li>
<li>PalmOne Tungsten E</li>
<li>PalmOne Zire 31</li>
<li>PalmOne Zire 71</li>
<li>PalmOne Zire 72</li>
<li>Sony CLIÉ UX50</li>
<li>Sony CLIÉ TH55</li>
<li>Sony CLIÉ TJ35</li>
<li>Sony CLIÉ TJ37</li>
<li>Tapwave Zodiac 1</li>
<li>Tapwave Zodiac 2</li>
<li>Garmin iQue</li>
</ul>

</li>
<li>Many Windows Mobile/CE/NameOfTheMonth-powered PDAs can play Vorbis (e.g. with [http://www.conduits.com/ce/player/download.asp Conduits Pocket Player], $19.95, free evaluation available). Devices supported by Pocket Player:
<ul>
<li>Asus MyPal</li>
<li>Casio E-200</li>
<li>Dell Axim</li>
<li>HP IPAQ 1900</li>
<li>HP IPAQ 2200</li>
<li>HP IPAQ 3600</li>
<li>HP IPAQ 3700</li>
<li>HP IPAQ 3800</li>
<li>HP IPAQ 3900</li>
<li>HP IPAQ 5100</li>
<li>HP IPAQ 5400</li>
<li>HP IPAQ 5500</li>
<li>HP Jornada 560</li>
<li>JVC MP-PV331</li>
<li>NEC MobilePro P300</li>
<li>O2 XDA</li>
<li>Pocket PC Phone (T-Mobile)</li>
<li>Toshiba e300</li>
<li>Toshiba e740/e750</li>
<li>Toshiba e755</li>
<li>Toshiba Genio</li>
</ul>
</li>

<li>
[http://www.sonyericsson.com/P800/ Sony Ericsson P800]

With Ogg Play from [http://www.geocities.com/p800tools http://www.geocities.com/p800tools], you can play
Ogg Vorbis.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.sharp-usa.com/products/TypeLanding/0,1056,112,00.html
Sharp’s Zaurus
]

The Zaurus, a very flexible PDA which runs Linux, can play Vorbis
files with a variety of software, including a
[http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=617 plugin]
for the default media player,
[http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=423 xmms],
[http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=201 ogg123],
[http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=803 mplayer],
or [http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/tkcplayer/ theKompany.com’s tkcPlayer].

</li>
<li>
[http://english.gamepark.com/ Game Park 32]

The GP32, an arm9tdmi portable console with much hackability (gcc3 toolchain,
expandable memory), has
[http://www.gp32x.com/gp32download.php?do_what=fileinfo&id=297 a Vorbis player] available.

</li>
</ul>
 
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== Projects to support Vorbis ==

<ul>

<li>
[http://www.dioneer.com/ Dioneer]

Their new players due out in July or August will support Ogg Vorbis
playback out of the box, according to
[http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003042402012267701001
The Digital Times] (Korean).

</li>
<li>
[http://www.nextway.co.kr/ Nextway]

Announced at IFA 2003 in Berlin, Nextway will be selling
portables with USB host capabilities. It will have no memory of its
own, but will use external memory/external readers to access
smartmedia cards, memory sticks, compact flash,
external HDDs, and more. Retail price is planned to be around
50,000 KRW, or approx. 42 USD. Vorbis firmware is planned to be
released in November, according to
[http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/20030917/080300000020030917145246K9.html
Yohnap News Agency] (Korean) and
[http://www.nextway.co.kr/etc/hostplayer.html
a Nextway news article] (Korean).

</li>
<li>
[http://www.mpman.com/ mpman]

Mpman will be releasing a 1.5Gb 1″ HDD portable that can play Vorbis.
There’s no mention of it on the website, but an external
[http://www.austinv.com/mpman_ifa.htm preview] is available.


Mpman will also be offering the MP-CD550, the international version
of the FreeMax FW-960.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.iops.co.kr iops] MFP-3xx players

Rumours say that iops plans to release
[http://www.iops.co.kr/home/iops_product.html
four flash-based Vorbis portables] in December 2003.
The specs are very impressive.

</li>

<li>
Apple [http://www.apple.com/ipod/ iPod]

Independently of Apple, [http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ some people] have
[http://www.uclinux.org/ µClinux] (Linux
for CPUs without MMUs) running on this. Right now, they are
decoding Vorbis at 80% realtime, with hope for improvement.

</li>

<li>
[http://www.frontierlabs.com/ Frontier Labs]

Frontier Labs are independently investigating the possibility of
Ogg Vorbis support on the Nex IIe. Details are not known at
the moment. The [http://www.frontierlabs.com/NEXIA.html Nex iA]
is advertised as supporting “emerging formats such as Ogg Vorbis
through firmware upgrades”. At present, the available firmware upgrades do
not provide Vorbis support.

</li>

<li>
[http://www.pontis.de/site_e/produkte/pl_600_e.htm
Pontis SP600 Portable MP3 Player
]

Pontis announced in the middle of 2002 that they would ‘soon’ release
a firmware upgrade to allow their SP600 portable player to play Vorbis files.
Unfortunately, after 18 months of silence, Pontis finally decided (in November 2003)
that a firmware upgrade for the SP600 was not possible, due to CPU and memory constraints.

</li>
</ul>
 
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== Vorbis in Silicon (non-consumer products) ==

<ul>
<li>
[http://oggonachip.sourceforge.net/ Ogg On A Chip]

A hardware/software implementation with a good report showing how
to make FPGAs and the like to decode Vorbis streams.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.finearch.com/english FineArch]

FineArch, Inc. developed a hardware core and control software for
decoding Vorbis. This technology can be integrated into portable
players or cell phones, and since it runs at only 12MHz, it uses
very little battery power. It supports files up to 64Kb/s, but
could be scaled to 16MHz and 128Kb/s, at the expense of battery
life. For more information, see FineArch’s
[http://www.finearch.com/english/news/pr_20030715/pr_20030715.htm
press release].

</li>
<li>
[http://www.mcslogic.com/ MCS Logic]

MCS Logic creates single chip decoders that can play Ogg Vorbis. They supply
the Vorbis decoding chips for Havin and Freemax.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.telechips.com Telechips]

Telechips has developed the TCC72x, a single chip decoder that can play Vorbis.
The TCC72x series is based on on an ARM940T core, and it is used widely in
Korea for players such as Iops or MobiBlu.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.tamulsite.co.kr Tamul Multimedia]

Tamul Multimedia manufactures decoding chips for Samsung. They claim
they have Ogg Vorbis decoding firmware, according to
[http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003031002011367704002
The Digital Times] (Korean).

</li>
<li>
[http://www.sigmatel.com/ SigmaTel]

SigmaTel hasn't announced anything that we've heard, but we do like this quote:
<blockquote>
I talked to Deborah Clark, product marketing engineer for audio chipmaker Sigmatel out of Austin, Tex. She is the company's expert in audio decoders. She says there is a growing base of support for Ogg Vorbis. "We can't keep paying these high licensing fees for this. Manufacturers would flock to something that's free."
</blockquote> from a 2000 [http://www.forbes.com/2000/09/18/dvorak_index.html column in Forbes]

Vorbis Hardware

2004-09-02T04:56:41Z

Kjoonlee:

This is a list of hardware, from PDAs to DVD players, that can play Ogg
Vorbis files. Hopefully you can find what you want, if not, come back next
week: several companies who can see the value and popularity of Vorbis are
working to support it on their hardware.
If you know of any other hardware or projects,
please add them to the list. More hardware info can be found at [http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/hardware.html].

== Consumer products that support Vorbis natively ==

<ul>
<li>[http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden]
Offers the [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ MP-130], a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player.


</li>
<li>
[http://www.neurosaudio.com/ Neuros] Digital Audio Computer

The Xiph.org Foundation has brought Vorbis playback to the Neuros Digital Audio
Computer. See <abbr title="Digital Innovations">DI</abbr>’s
[http://www.neurosaudio.com/press/news_item.aspx?itemID=80
press release
] about the agreement. See the
[http://www.neurosaudio.com/press/news_item.aspx?itemID=160 press release]
about the [http://www.xiph.org/neurosetta/ beta vorbis firmware].
The final version will be more optimized.


UPDATE: DI recently released stable firmware version 1.45 (available
at [http://www.neurosaudio.com/support/support_updates.asp their Support
Updates page]); this is the first stable firmware release for the Neuros that
includes Ogg Vorbis support. 
Support for adding Ogg Vorbis files through the Neuros Sync Manager software is still
in beta, but Xiph.org's [http://www.xiph.org/positron/ Positron] and Sean
Starkey's [http://neurosdbm.sf.net/ Neuros Database Manipulator] both
provide support for adding Ogg Vorbis files to the Neuros.


</li>
<li>
[http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/rioaudio/ Rio]
[http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=220&cat=56 Karma]
http://empeg.comms.net/files/158359-pearlbuds.jpg
This 20Gb portable player has Ogg Vorbis and [FLAC] support, and has been
[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AQIFZ available from Amazon]
in the United States since October 2003, currently for US$285 (the box also includes
a US$20 mail-in rebate, valid if purchased before 2004-02-22).


The unit should now be available from UK online retailers (e.g.,
[http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AQIFZ Amazon UK],
currently for £280), though full volume won’t be available until mid-late
January 2004. A full retail launch in Europe is likely to happen in 2004.


[http://gear.ign.com IGN] have written
[http://gear.ign.com/articles/433/433165p1.html preview] and
[http://gear.ign.com/articles/458/458401p1.html review] articles about the Karma 20.
[http://www.riovolution.com Riovolution] has a good
[http://www.riovolution.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=15 Rio Karma forum] and a
[http://www.riovolution.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=17
nice gallery] of Rio Karma pictures.
The official product annoucement was reported in
[http://theregister.co.uk/content/54/32273.html The Register] and
[http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/11/1830252 Slashdot];
the Slashdot discussion included [http://slashdot.org/~pdh11 several informative
comments] from a Rio employee.


Note that firmware versions prior to 1.25 cause
[http://www.riovolution.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=546 stability problems]
for some people.
[http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/support/rio/product.asp?prodID=113 Version 1.25]
of the firmware fixes these problems, and also contains some
[http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/support/rio/downloads/Karma/RioKarmaFlash_125.txt new features].


Originally, Rio also planned to release a 40Gb version of the Rio Karma: the Rio Karma 40.
Unfortunately, it now appears that the Karma 40 is on indefinite hold, due to problems
sourcing the 40Gb hard drives from Hitachi.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver] iHP-100, iHP-115, iHP-120, iGP-100, possibly others

In September 2003, iRiver released [http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=355
a new announcement] detailing their plans for Vorbis playback.


In summary, most of their players are sure to support Vorbis, with the possible exception
of the iFP-1xx line, and iMP-50, 100, and 150 line. Getting Vorbis running on
the low-end iMP line may be difficult, and is quite difficult with the iFP-1xx
line. The announcement has more details.


Currently, firmware upgrades are available for the
[http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-100 iHP-100] and
[http://www.iriver.co.kr/product/info.asp?p_group=iHP&p_name=iHP-115 iHP-115]
(only available in Korea?), 10Gb and 15Gb portable players.
The [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-120 iHP-120],
a 20GB portable player, and the [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-140 iHP-140],
a 40GB version, supports Vorbis playback out of the box.
[http://gear.ign.com IGN] have reviews of the
[http://gear.ign.com/articles/435/435472p1.html iHP-100] and
[http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457818p1.html iHP-120].


The [http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iGP-100.asp iGP-100],
a 1.5Gb portable player, supports Vorbis,
according to the FAQ, though no firmware upgrade appears to be required.

New models out mid-2004 that replace the iHP series: 
Portable harddrive players with 10GB, 20GB, 40GB; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=H140H110, H120, H140] 
Portable harddrive players with USB host function and colour display: [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=H340 H320, H340] 
Portable media players with Linux OS and harddrive: [http://www.iriver.de/product/prod.php?p=PMP-140 PMP-120 and PMP-140] 
Portable flash memory players: [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-1090 iFP-1090]; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-1095 iFP-1095]; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-900%20Series iFP900 Series]; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-800%20Series iFP800 Series]; [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iFP-700%20Series iFP700 Series];

</li>
<li>
[http://www.phatnoise.com/products/index.php !PhatNoise’s PhatBox],
[http://www.kenwoodusa.com/excelon/excelonKeg.jsp Kenwood’s Music Keg]
(“Powered by !PhatNoise”)

These are in-car players that are installed into the trunk of your car and
hooked up to your car stereo. Both players run ARM-Linux and
support playback of [FLAC] files. Beta firmware to support Ogg Vorbis is available at
[http://phatbox.sixpak.org/phatbox/ogg.phtml
http://phatbox.sixpak.org/phatbox/ogg.phtml].

</li>
<li>
[http://www.kiss-technology.com/ KISS Technology’s] DP-450
and DP-500 DVD Players (and others?)

These DVD players can play .ogg files from CD-Rs and CD-!RWs (but
reportedly have trouble with UTF-8 comments that aren’t also ASCII), as
well as DivX (but not !DivX Vorbis). Reportedly, other DVD players from
KISS Technology also support Vorbis.


There are reportedly problems with some versions of the
firmware (2.6.6 ≤ x < 2.7.1), where playback is awful for a
bitrates greater than 128Kb/s.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.kenwood.com/ Kenwood's] VRS-N8100, DVF-N7080

The new line of networked hi-fi components are supposed to decode Ogg Vorbis over the
Ethernet port: the A/V receiver VRS-N8100 and the DVD player DVF-N7080. They are
available in Germany in September.

<li>
[http://www.mpsharp.com/ MPST Digital Jukebox]

The MPST Digital Jukebox is a Linux PC designed for audio playback
and sold as a stereo component, which of course can play Vorbis.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.ifreemax.com/ Freemax] FW-960

This hardware manufacturer’s new CD-R portable
supports Ogg Vorbis playback out of the box. It will have 48 hours
of WMA playback if an external battery pack (2 AA batteries) is used.
In Korea, its retail price is 189,000 KRW, or approximately 160 USD.


More information is available (in Korean) on the product page for the
[http://www.ifreemax.com/html/product.shtml FreeMax FW-960].


The !FreeMax FW-960 is also known as the mpman MP-CD550.

</li>
<li>

[http://www.umax.de Umax/Yamada] have a few standalone DVD players that support
Vorbis.

</li>
<li>

[http://www.neuston.com Neuston] provides a standalone DVD player (model DVX-1201)
that supports Vorbis.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.samsungusa.com/ Samsung]

The MCD-CM600 is now available in Korea. It is a CD portable that can play Vorbis, MP3, and WMA.
[http://www.kbench.com/hardware/?no=22319&pg=4 Page with photo of MCD-CM600].
[http://www.kbench.com/iview.jsp?file=/kbench/article/2003_10/k22319p4n10.jpg Closeup of MCD-CM600].


The [http://samsung.ca/cgi-bin/nasecabc/en/b2c/product/product_detail.jsp?LoginFlag=NO&prod_path=%2fConsumer+Products%2fTV,+Video+%26+Audio%2fDigital+Products%2fYepp&prod_id=YP-60V/XAC YP-60V] is a portable 256MB player, that comes with additional functions for athletes.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.exonion.com/ Havin] Exonion HVC-400E,
also known as
[http://www.princeton.co.jp/ Princeton] Pocket Beat airCD

The Havin HVC-400E, also known as the Princeton airCD
is probably on sale in Japan since late November, 2003.

</li>
</ul>
 
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== Consumer products that support Vorbis via third-party software ==

<ul>
<li>
[http://www.palm.com/products/handhelds/tungsten-t/ Palm Tungsten T]

Using
[http://www.pocket-tunes.com/
NormSoft’s Pocket Tunes software]
($14.95, free 15-day trial), or
[http://www.aerodromesoftware.com/
AeroPlayer]
(free), the Palm Tungsten T can play Vorbis files.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.sonyericsson.com/P800/ Sony Ericsson P800]

With Ogg Play from [http://www.geocities.com/p800tools http://www.geocities.com/p800tools], you can play
Ogg Vorbis.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.sharp-usa.com/products/TypeLanding/0,1056,112,00.html
Sharp’s Zaurus
]

The Zaurus, a very flexible PDA which runs Linux, can play Vorbis
files with a variety of software, including a
[http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=617 plugin]
for the default media player,
[http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=423 xmms],
[http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=201 ogg123],
[http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=803 mplayer],
or [http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/tkcplayer/ theKompany.com’s tkcPlayer].

</li>
<li>
[http://english.gamepark.com/ Game Park 32]

The GP32, an arm9tdmi portable console with much hackability (gcc3 toolchain,
expandable memory), has
[http://www.gp32x.com/gp32download.php?do_what=fileinfo&id=297 a Vorbis player] available.

</li>
</ul>
 
----

== Projects to support Vorbis ==

<ul>

<li>
[http://www.dioneer.com/ Dioneer]

Their new players due out in July or August will support Ogg Vorbis
playback out of the box, according to
[http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003042402012267701001
The Digital Times] (Korean).

</li>
<li>
[http://www.nextway.co.kr/ Nextway]

Announced at IFA 2003 in Berlin, Nextway will be selling
portables with USB host capabilities. It will have no memory of its
own, but will use external memory/external readers to access
smartmedia cards, memory sticks, compact flash,
external !HDDs, and more. Retail price is planned to be around
50,000 KRW, or approx. 42 USD. Vorbis firmware is planned to be
released in November, according to
[http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/20030917/080300000020030917145246K9.html
Yohnap News Agency] (Korean) and
[http://www.nextway.co.kr/etc/hostplayer.html
a Nextway news article] (Korean).

</li>
<li>
[http://www.mpman.com/ mpman]

Mpman will be releasing a 1.5Gb 1″ HDD portable that can play Vorbis.
There’s no mention of it on the website, but an external
[http://www.austinv.com/mpman_ifa.htm preview] is available.


Mpman will also be offering the MP-CD550, the international version
of the FreeMax FW-960.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.iops.co.kr iops] MFP-3xx players

Rumours say that iops plans to release
[http://www.iops.co.kr/home/iops_product.html
four flash-based Vorbis portables] in December 2003.
The specs are very impressive.

</li>

<li>
Apple [http://www.apple.com/ipod/ iPod]

Independently of Apple, [http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/ some people] have
[http://www.uclinux.org/ µClinux] (Linux
for CPUs without !MMUs) running on this. Right now, they are
decoding Vorbis at 80% realtime, with hope for improvement.

</li>

<li>
[http://www.frontierlabs.com/ Frontier Labs]

Frontier Labs are independently investigating the possibility of
Ogg Vorbis support on the Nex !IIe. Details are not known at
the moment. The [http://www.frontierlabs.com/NEXIA.html Nex iA]
is advertised as supporting “emerging formats such as Ogg Vorbis
through firmware upgrades”. At present, the available firmware upgrades do
not provide Vorbis support.

</li>

<li>
[http://www.pontis.de/site_e/produkte/pl_600_e.htm
Pontis SP600 Portable MP3 Player
]

Pontis announced in the middle of 2002 that they would ‘soon’ release
a firmware upgrade to allow their SP600 portable player to play Vorbis files.
Unfortunately, after 18 months of silence, Pontis finally decided (in November 2003)
that a firmware upgrade for the SP600 was not possible, due to CPU and memory constraints.

</li>
</ul>
 
----

== Vorbis in Silicon (non-consumer products) ==

<ul>
<li>
[http://oggonachip.sourceforge.net/ Ogg On A Chip]

A hardware/software implementation with a good report showing how
to make !FPGAs and the like to decode Vorbis streams.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.finearch.com/english FineArch]

!FineArch, Inc. developed a hardware core and control software for
decoding Vorbis. This technology can be integrated into portable
players or cell phones, and since it runs at only 12MHz, it uses
very little battery power. It supports files up to 64Kb/s, but
could be scaled to 16MHz and 128Kb/s, at the expense of battery
life. For more information, see !FineArch’s
[http://www.finearch.com/english/news/pr_20030715/pr_20030715.htm
press release].

</li>
<li>
[http://www.mcslogic.com/ MCS Logic]

MCS Logic creates single chip decoders that can play Ogg Vorbis. They supply
the Vorbis decoding chips for Havin and Freemax.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.telechips.com Telechips]

Telechips has developed the TCC72x, a single chip decoder that can play Vorbis.
The TCC72x series is based on on an ARM940T core, and it is used widely in
Korea for players such as Iops or MobiBlu.

</li>
<li>
[http://www.tamulsite.co.kr Tamul Multimedia]

Tamul Multimedia manufactures decoding chips for Samsung. They claim
they have Ogg Vorbis decoding firmware, according to
[http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003031002011367704002
The Digital Times] (Korean).

</li>
<li>
[http://www.sigmatel.com/ SigmaTel]

SigmaTel hasn't announced anything that we've heard, but we do like this quote:
<blockquote>
I talked to Deborah Clark, product marketing engineer for audio chipmaker Sigmatel out of Austin, Tex. She is the company's expert in audio decoders. She says there is a growing base of support for Ogg Vorbis. "We can't keep paying these high licensing fees for this. Manufacturers would flock to something that's free."
</blockquote> from a 2000 [http://www.forbes.com/2000/09/18/dvorak_index.html column in Forbes]