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List of Theora videos

2007-08-13T13:30:04Z

Blenda: Removed the link to The Giver (it's currently down due to bandwidth shortage)

This is a list of sites where you can download videos encoded with [[Theora]].

;[http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx AIGLX]:Demonstration videos for AIGLX, a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop.
;[http://v2v.cc/ V2V]:Video syndication network
;[http://metavid.org Metavid]:Ogg theroa archive of U.S House and Senate Floor Footage.
;[http://post.thing.net/ post.thing.net]:Media site with video torrents.
;[http://punkcast.com/905/ PUNKCAST#905 Richard M Stallman]:Two video clips: ''What's GNU?'' + ''St. IGNUcius''
;[http://gplv3.fsf.org/av GPLv3 Conference, January 16-17 2006]:Speeches by Peter Brown, Eben Moglen and Richard Stallman.
;[http://www.polycrystal.org/lego/movies.html Lego Movies]:Two short movies: ''A New Computer'' and ''Swim''.
;[http://www.flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com/Website/films.html More Lego Movies]: Submissions from a Theora-only animation contest.
;[http://revision3.com/ Revision3]:Tech TV torrents.
;[http://share.sh.cvut.cz/Theora_demos/ CTU Prague Archive]:[http://creativecommons.org/ Creative Commons] adverts + feature film ''[http://fourthwall.creativecommons.org/honey/ Honey]''.
;[http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html Speeches about the GNU Project's philosophy]:Featuring Richard Stallman et al.
;[http://www.redhat.com/en_us/USA/rhel/informationcenter/videos/ Red Hat Videos]:Videos about the GNU/Linux vendor's customers and solutions.
;''[http://www.mininova.org/tor/234676 New Waterford Girl]'':Canadian comedy from 1999. Unauthorized copy (not legal in all jurisdictions).
;[http://free-electrons.com/community/videos/conferences/en Free Electrons Conferences]: technical talks given at conferences about free software.
;[http://ulm.ccc.de/ChaosSeminar Ulm CCC Chaosseminar]: (german)
;[http://www.visonair.tv/ Visonair.tv]: Open Access Internet TV channel streaming in ''Ogg Theora''
;[http://dyne.org/~kysucix/index.html?video 11200 undo]: A short movie about computer, religion, sex, glue and so on...
;[http://commons.wikimedia.org/ Wikimedia Commons]: An archive database of 644,951 media files, to which anyone can contribute
;[http://www.archive.org/details/VoyagetothePlanetofPrehistoricWomen Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women] (1967) and [http://www.archive.org/details/TheSnowCreature The Snow Creature] (1954): Full-length public domain movies from the Internet Archive's [http://www.archive.org/details/feature_films collection].
;[http://video.indypgh.org Rustbelt TV]: [http://pittsburgh.indypgh.org Pittsburgh Indymedia's] TV program based on [http://radio.indypgh.org Rustbelt Radio] (audio available as ogg vorbis).
;[http://www.osvids.com/ogg-theora/ogg-theora.html OS Videos]: A personal video archive of experiences with different Operating Systems
;[http://www.internautas.tv/ INTERNAUTAS TELEVÍSION]: Spanish website with clips from Andaluzian tv station. Content licensed under CC-BY-NC. So far, it provides decent resolutions.
;[http://nihongo.damam.net/personal/frtmn/ F.R.T.M.N. (From Russia to Montenegro)]: A movie licensed under a [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ CC-BY 3.0] License.
;[http://theorasea.org/ Theora Sea]: Directory of online and free videos using [http://menguy.aymeric.free.fr/theora/ ITheora].

== See also==
{{Template:Theora}}

Talk:TheoraSoftwarePlayers

2006-03-05T11:29:50Z

Blenda: Platforms

== Platforms ==

Maybe we should add info about which platforms the software is availible for? --[[User:Blenda|Blenda]] 03:29, 5 March 2006 (PST)

Talk:TheoraEncoders

2006-03-05T11:28:27Z

Blenda: Cinelerra

== Cinelerra ==

How about [http://cvs.cinelerra.org/ Cinelerra]? What does it use to encode Theora? --[[Blenda]]

Theora

2006-03-05T11:28:04Z

Blenda: Linked List of Theora videos

'''Theora''' is our video codec, based on the [[VP3]] codec donated by [[On2 Technologies]]. We've refined and extended it, giving it the same future scope for encoder improvement [[Vorbis]] has. See http://theora.org/ for more information.

== Features ==

Features available in the Theora format (and a comparison to VP3 and MPEG-4 ASP):

* block-based motion compensation
* 8x8 Type-II Discrete Cosine Transform
* free-form variable bit rates (VBR)
* adaptive in-loop deblocking applied to the edges of the coded blocks (not existing in MPEG-4 ASP)
* block sizes down to 8x8 (MPEG-4 ASP supports normally only 16x16)
* 384 8x8 custom quantization matrices: intra/inter, luma/chroma and even each quant (more than VP3 and MPEG-4 ASP/AVC)
* adaptive entropy encoding (MPEG-4 ASP does'nt support adaptivity)
* 4:2:0, 4:2:2, and 4:4:4 chroma subsampling formats (VP3 and MPEG-4 ASP only support 4:2:0)
* 8 bits per pixel per color channel
* multiple reference frames (not possible in MPEG-4 ASP)
* pixel aspect ratio (eg for anamorphic signalling/playback)
* non-linear scaling of quants values (as done in MPEG-4 AVC)
* adaptive quantisation down to the block level (as possible in MPEG-4 ASP/AVC)
* intra frames (I-Frames in MPEG), inter frames (P-Frames), but no B-Frames (as supported in MPEG-4 ASP/AVC)
* HalfPixel Motion Search Precision (MPEG-4 ASP/AVC supports HalfPixel or QuarterPixel)
* technologies used already in Vorbis (decoder setup configuration, bitstream headers...) not available in VP3

Note that not all of these features are already implemented in the reference encoder/decoder.

== Status ==

Alpha 5 is the latest release. The bitstream format is frozen. Every file created with the alpha 3 encoder (and, of course, later encoders) will be playable with future decoders. Beta 1 will be the next release.

* It would be nice if somewhere it could be explained if Theora is a format appropriate for editing video - such formats would not do frame to frame compression and the file size and processor load would be smaller. On the other hand a distribution format would want to pack in a lot of compression which would mean using frame to for compression.

== Development ==

* [[Theora:Beta1ToDo|Todo for Beta1]]

== More information ==

* [[TheoraHardware]]: List of hardware-players supporting Ogg Theora
* [[TheoraSoftwarePlayers]]: List of media players that can play Ogg Theora
* [[TheoraDecoders]]: List of decoders
* [[TheoraEncoders]]: List of encoders
* [[List of Theora videos]]: Get some files to see what the codec's like

== External links ==

* [http://www.theora.org/ Theora homepage]
* [http://www.annodex.net/software/theora/ Theora documentation daily builds]
* [[Wikipedia: Theora]]
* [http://www.vp3.com VP3 homepage]: The homepage of the codec Theora is based on
* [http://www.on2.com On2 Technologies]: The authors of VP3
* [http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77314 Ogg Theora Information on Doom9 Forum]
* [http://www.parrishtech.com/content/view/16/1/ HOWTO: Rip DVD to Theora using Linux]

TheoraEncoders

2006-03-05T11:27:05Z

Blenda: Creating node

*[http://www.v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ ffmpeg2theora]

TheoraSoftwarePlayers

2006-03-05T11:25:13Z

Blenda: Linked xine, added MPlayer, Totem and Helix Player

*[http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/ Directshow Filters for Ogg Vorbis, Speex, Theora and FLAC]
*[https://helixcommunity.org/projects/xiph/ Xiph Plugins for Real Player/Producer]
*[http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ VLC], a cross-platform media player and streaming server
*[http://xinehq.de/ xine]
*[http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html MPlayer]
*[http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=64 Totem] - can user either xine or [http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/ Gstreamer] as backend.
*[https://player.helixcommunity.org/ Helix Player]

Talk:PortablePlayers

2006-02-25T00:58:35Z

Blenda: Ogg is not an acronym

There are many more portable players by TrekStor than the i.beat 500 supporting ogg vorbis.

Please add products to the main page.

I would like to know which Players can '''record''' in OGG?! -- [[User:217.186.150.213|217.186.150.213]] 17:03, 26 Dec 2004 (PST)

== Pretec Allegro may need firmware update ==

I recently purchased a Pretec Allegro, but was unable to play Oggs for three months, until the firmware update was made available on 14 or 15 March 2005. Now it works well! (So far, listening to -q3 Oggs). I'd hope that units purchased after this date already has the firmware update, but you never know. Installing the update is as simple as placing the .rom on the USB-storage-device media (eg flash disk), starting up the unit, and pressing the play button. -- Hugo van der Merwe
: How much battery runtime do you get playing Oggs compared with playing mp3? [[User:Phr|Phr]] 02:05, 27 Aug 2005 (PDT)

== Any player with SD-Cards ==

Every single ogg-capable portable player out there seems to come with built-in flash memory. Which is stupid, because I don't want to fire up my computer and plug in the player every time I get tired of the tracks on my player. Plus flash memory has a limited lifetime (write cycles) and so does your player with built-in memory. The same applies for built-in rechargable batteries.

Now when would you ever need to buy your second device without any moving parts if you could just change flash memory and batteries? Ok, that's the industrie's point of view but not mine. I want to go on vacation with music and batteries for one week of non-stop music - without a power source or computer nearby.

So, any hint to where I might find a portable audio player that can play back ogg vorbis files and uses SD flash cards (and preferably AAA-batteries) would be greatly appreciated.
* Me too! If the [http://enox.co.kr/2004/eng/product/product_830_01.asp Enox EMX-830] took SD cards it'd be perfect. --[[User:Rgm|rgm]] 14:41, 7 Nov 2005 (PST)

----

The Pretec Allegro is not the slickest player out there, it's LCD backlight seems to give off a high-pitched whine, which not everyone can hear (it kind-of screams in my ears though, so I put the backlight timer on 1 second so it doesn't scream too long). It is, however, the only one I now know of that can play Oggs, and uses removable media. If you want a nicely portable device, you have to use Pretec's "iDisk tiny" usb flash disk, the only thing that will fit inside. You can also, however, connect some USB SD-card reader with it's cable, then listen to Oggs off of SD. A little unwieldy, but, it works, and is the only thing *I* know of. (I stopped following developments in December though, when I bought it...)

== Samsung's Yepp Ogg Vorbis support ==

JoshuaRodman wrote regarding the yp-t7z:
:I received such a unit. It plays oggs encodd at -q 4, 5 and 6 without error that I have noticed. However it seems underdocumented. It plays the files in an order which is neither alpha sorted nor numeric sorted, and it does not support ogg tags. -- JoshuaRodman (March 28, 2005)
:I've investigated more. Some music encoded at even -q 5 will break up or cause difficulty. I suspect these pieces have bitrate spikes. As for the ordering, the YP-T7 plays files in 'readdir' order. That is it does not sort the files out of the filesystem at all. In practice, this means it will play the files in the order that you add them to the directory. If you are a windows user dragging and dropping the files onto the player, this problem will not affect you. A linux or possible Mac user may need to do minor scripting to alleviate this issue. --JoshuaRodman (April 13, 2005)

Spaz added for the YP-T7Z:
:After using the newest firmware I have had no issues playing OGG files. Any lockup or playback issues I had experienced went away. --Spaz (Dec 23, 2005)

Ulrich added for the YP-MT6Z:
:I think my manual says the first 8 characters of a filename are considered for sorting. As my files have the "tracknumber" tag, I wrote some Perl script that prepends that number (two digits plus a space) to the track names when being copied onto the player. I'm not sure about decoding problems, but there may be some. I encoded my files at q6 or higher using "oggenc" from Linux. Tags for title and performer are displayed unless you follow the Vorbis specification to create one tag for each performer. However, be aware that default settings have tag display disabled!

:The chip inside seems to be a Sigmatel STMP3400M, natively specified for MP3 with addon codecs.

:It would be great of Samsung Europe would release firmware with release notes (the Korean site has newer firmware, but no English, really!). There's also some inoffical newer firmware around, but also without any release notes. Official firmware is 2.122 (on my player as delivered and on CD and website).

:Recently I decided to remove some Ogg files from the player and add a few new ones. Unfortunately this resulted in some directories (usually structured as <artist>/<album>/<track-number> <track-title>) being unplayable. There's just a message saying "No Entry". Interestingly this happens with directories that did play before removing some files. Newer firmware didn't change anything about that. I suspect that this is caused by either 1) special characters in the file names (I use UTF-8 encoding), 2) special characters in the Vorbis comment, 3) length of file names, 4) number of files in the file system, or 5) amount of free space (my player has just 90kB free now). One symptom is that in Settings->System->About there are fewer files counted than actually exist in the filesystem. And yes, I've checked the filesystem several times. I have contacted German support, and they replied they'll investigate, but they did not ask back about any details (and support doesn't allow to reply).

:With the new inofficial firmware 2.290 I had a few crashes: The player was playing a continuous tone, and the only way to stop it was to remove the battiery for a moment. However as the effect was not repeatable when playing the same file, I can believe that some mobile phone triggered that. The other thing is the fact that my player came without FM radio. The newer firmware has the radio item in firmware, but as soon as I select it, the player will hang until the battery is removed. OK, that's inofficial firmware...
--(Ulrich on 2006-02-02)

::Two questions: 1) are ogg tags not being displayed even when the Tag option is toggle to On in the settings menu? 2) how does it handle -q 4 and -q 6 — is it just -q 5, or is it -q 5 and higher/lower? — [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 01:07, 14 Apr 2005 (PDT)

:::I have seen no evidence of vorbis tags being supported; they are not displayed. I have generally encoded at -q 5 as an attempt to stay inside the "supported" bitrate boundaries. I find that the bitrate and breakups are not directly correlated, but somewhat related. This is no surprise if the problem is CPU time exhaustion. I have not found any particular quality encoding to fail either reliably or often. In general, speeds above the stated maximum supported bitrates have seemed to work fine. No lockups of any kind have been encountered. Incidentally, over 90% of my ogg files have been processed by vorbisgain. --JoshuaRodman (July 5, 2005)

I just bought one of these and I'm baffled by its erratic Ogg support. Firmware version 1.541 seems to support tags just fine, though I haven't noticed the alpha-sorting issue (haven't looked). However, I find that it can't play all my Ogg files (freezes when it tries to load the file), and there's nothing systematic that I've found to account for this. It plays some files I encoded [[Jan 29]]-[[Jan 30]], [[2005]], but there are files that don't work before and after that date. The files that work so far were encoded with nominal bitrates of 128 and 192, while others that don't work were at 160. All encodings have used the same program (Grip under Linux). Ogg files that I've encoded with oggenc directly for testing purposes at 160 nominal bitrate work just fine. There's just something about most of my existing files.

I've emailed a support request to Samsung Canada, so I'll report what I find out then. Meanwhile I'm doing a bunch of rips with Grip to test different nominal bitrates. [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 10:53, 12 Apr 2005 (PDT)

:Results from my experiments with different nominal bitrates are summarised in this table:
{| align=center border=1
|+YP-T6 Ogg Vorbis support
|-
!   !! Tags
| none || tag* || tag + replaygain || replaygain
|-
!Bitrate (nominal) ||   ||   ||   ||   ||  
|-
| 128
|   || works || works || works || ?
|-
| 160
|   || works || works || '''freezes''' || works
|-
| 192
|   || works || works || works || ?
|}
:<nowiki>* </nowiki>"tag" means just the regular complement of artist, album, title, year, and genre.
:"?" indicates that the case was not tested

:My conclusion is that the Samsung YP-T6 can't handle Ogg Vorbis files encoded at 160 nominal bitrate if [[Wikipedia:ReplayGain|ReplayGain]] tags are applied to the file. Note too that I tested a file without real RG tags, but with the normal tags plus tags with different names than the standard RG tags but with the same name-length and same length of arguments; this was to isolate whether it was a ReplayGain-specific bug or a general tag-handling bug. Thus, I suspect that the problem is a buffer overflow in tag code of the firmware. '''Note''' that I have only tested files encoded with nominal bitrates, not files encoded with oggenc's quality settings.
:The few files in my collection that have worked were encoded at different bitrates (either 128 or 192), but unfortunately the vast majority are 160, and I need ReplayGain to be able to listen to my collection on the PC without constantly changing the volume. As a workaround I may write a script to strip the ReplayGain tags as they're moved to my player, but this rather sucks. — [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 12:36, 12 Apr 2005 (PDT)

=== Yepp YP-T7JZ/T7JX ===

Samsung appears to have model bumped the yp-t7 series with the yp-t7j series. The spec sheet does not mention OGG/Vorbis as a supported file format. This seems a real shame as the t7 worked well. Does anyone have anything more conclusive? [[User:JoshuaRodman|JoshuaRodman]] 08:26, 6 January 2006 (PST)

=== Yepp MT-6X ===

:I ([[User:Gav|Gav]]) own a Yepp MT-6X and I don't come to the same conclusions. I tried to remove the Gain tags and it didn't improve anything. Here are some tests I made :

{| align=center border=1
|+YP-MT6X Ogg Vorbis support
|-
! Encoder version || Filename || Nominal bitrate || Playback test
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20000508 (1.0 beta 1 or beta 2) || 01 - In Tenebris.ogg || unset (160 kbps) || KO
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20001031 (1.0 beta 3) || 01 - A Day Without Rain.ogg || 160 kbps || KO
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225 (1.0 beta 4) || 01 - Sunday Bloody Sunday.ogg || 128 kbps || KO
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010615 (1.0 rc1) || 01 - Remede.ogg || 128 kbps || KO
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010813 (1.0 rc2) || 01 - Devil's Haircut.ogg || 192 kbps || OK
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011231 (1.0 rc3) || 01 - Encore Une Chance.ogg || 112 kbps || OK
|-
|Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717 (1.0) || 01 - Inferno (Unleash The Fire).ogg || 160 kbps || KO
|-
|Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030909 (1.0.1) || 01 - You Will Be a Hot Dancer.ogg || 128 kbps || OK
|-
|}

Yes, a 1.0 file fails... I also tested a 8 second file encoded at q1,q2,...,q10 using 20020717 (1.0) and it worked for every quality ! So not every 1.0-encoded file fails. See [[YeppGavDetails]] for details about the files.

: OK. I've done extensive tests and I can confirm what Saxifrage suggested : there is indeed a buffer overflow in the tag handling ! When the framing bit of the tag header is at offset >= 0x18C, it fails. If it is at exactly 0x18C, it reboots or freezes. If it is at offset > 0x18C, it always freezes. This was tested with firmware 1.101 and vorbis encoder 1.0.

: The file encoded using libVorbis 1.0 in the table above has a too large tag and that's why it fails.

: In summary, the Yepp can only play Vorbis when it is encoded with libVorbis version >= 1.0rc2 AND when the framing bit of the tag header is at offset < 0x18C.

=== Yepp YP-T6 ===

I've got this model with 256MB of flash memory, and unlike above, I ran into problems when I tried to play very-low-bitrate files (< 64kbps, CD format). I encoded them using [http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/index.html aoTuV-beta4] experiment version from aoyumi (which creates (or should create) perfectly standard and conforming files), using command-line oggenc under linux. The qualities I used for these problematic files are -q-1 (~45kbps) and -q-2 (~32kbps), and when the player tries to open the file it freezes, but for qualities from -q0 it works perfectly.

Apart from that, I've had no real problem before, using mostly -q6 files from RC3 and 1.0, without tags or with standard ones. Sometimes the sound is distorted a lot for a few tenths of seconds, it seems to be related to bitrate peaks (applauds, etc.).

Hope this will be useful, anyway thanks for the investigations on this player, I also realized the lack of information on this player's ogg support. [[User:Superdupont|Superdupont]] 16:49, 2 Aug 2005 (PDT)

Edit: firmware version: 1.543

The YP-T6 seems to be almost identical to the Trekstor i.Beat Cube.

The YP-T6s sold in the US sports an FM Radio with 16 saved settings and automatic station search. Recording from a radio program to MP3 is possible. At least the German version of the YP-T6 does not have an built-in tuner.

The German web site has moved it from from "MP3 players" to the [http://av.samsung.de/subtype_tva_audiop_mp3_archiv.asp Archived MP3 players] section, while the [http://www.samsung.com/Products/DigitalAudioPlayer/MP3Players/YP_T6ZXAA.asp US] and [http://www.samsung.com/uk/products/digitalaudioplayer/flashmemory/index.asp UK] site lists it as regular model. I don't know if this indicates that Samsung is about to stop production of the T6 or if there have been problems on the German market (like restrictive radio emission laws, see built-in tuner section above).

=== Yepp YP-53 ===

I'am not sure what's inside this player. May be it's a STMP3505. With firmware 1.200 it plays Ogg Vorbis, but not at very low bitrates(-q-1 and -q-2).[[User:nostromo|nostromo]] 4 Nov 2005.

Firmware 1.200 is a bit difficult to find, googling by file name (YP-53_V1.200.zip) gets a single relevant result: [http://bluetek.co.kr/service/guide/driver_view.asp?idx=110&tbl_name=download_kr&page=3&qtype=model&query= Korean page with a link to the updater]. If it disappears, contact me ([[User:inejge|inejge]]) via this site ('''E-mail this user''' on the linked page).

The new firmware is much nicer than the previous release (my player came with V1.024):
* It plays OGGs, starting with -q0.
* The main screen is better organized.
* Menus are cleaned up (and with more eye candy).
* Non-ASCII characters in tags are displayed properly (tested with OGG).

'''Note:''' if you are encoding OGGs at -q0, ''don't'' try to set the lower bitrate limit to 64 kb/s -- the player can choke on managed bitrate files. Nominal bitrate is all that counts.

--[[User:Inejge|Inejge]] 06:32, 12 Dec 2005 (PST)

=== Yepp YP-U1 ===
'''Firmware 2.242:''' Plays Vorbis OK with tag support. Tested with aoTuV beta 4.51 and Xiph.org Vorbis between -q2 and -q8 (mostly at -q5; manual claims support from -q0 to -q10), no lockups so far. Experienced unusual distortion at one point of a particular track (loud, percussive synthetic "thunderclap") at -q5, decreasing with increasing -q value; this appears to be caused by a spike in bitrate, solved by passing encoding options
--managed -b160 -M192
--[[User:Ettlz|Ettlz]] 07:35, 25 January 2006 (PST)

== UniBrain iZak ==

Apologies if this is the wrong place for this; I'm new to wikis.

The UniBrain iZak was added, then removed recently, with the comment that it doesn't claim to play Ogg Vorbis.

The FAQ is available here: [http://www.unibrain.com/support/iZak/iZak_FAQ.htm iZak FAQ] and Question/Answer 22 says:

'22. Can iZak™ support OGG audio files?

Yes, iZak™ fully supports OGG playback using the latest firmware.'

:I was the one that removed it. In their specs linked from the main page, I saw that they listed only MP3 and WMA support for music formats. Obviously they need to update their promotional material! I went ahead and added the iZak back in, making a point to mention that the most current version of the firmware now supports Ogg Vorbis and linking to their FAQ as evidence. [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 02:36, 5 May 2005 (PDT)

:Splendid. I didn't want to just stick it back after it had been taken out.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 05:14, 5 May 2005 (PDT)

== Entempo Spirit ==

This inexpensive player from [http://www.entempo.com/ Entempo] lists Ogg as a "Supported Audio Format", but the device will not index the Ogg files into it's menus -- let alone play the files. Tested with both the stock and most recent firmware, May 29, 2005. Vendor has been contacted.

== Lexar LDP-800 dropped ==
It seems that Lexar have abondoned the LDP-800. The following was posted by a user on [http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.1055 dapreview.net]
" Unfortunately, lexar will not offer the LDP-800, but will focus instead
on its existing LDP Players that already offer appealing features and
benefits to meet a variety of consumer needs."
Shame.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 06:15, 22 Jul 2005 (PDT)

There's more info on that dapreview thread that indicates some confusion within Lexar. Currently, it looks like the release is going to happen in early September.

Update 2005-11-11: after inquiries to Lexar's "new products" personnel, I received a telephone message that the LDP-800 will definitely "is not going to see the light of day." Ask me if you want details. I agree that it's a shame since this looked to be an outstanding product. --[[User:dfavro|dfavro]]

== Hong Kong Dream-tech Electronic DT-202, works? please confirm ==
http://hkdream-tech.com
An ebay seller says that it can reproduce OGG. This is unconfirmed. In the manufacturer web it says: MP3, WMA, WAV, DMV and etc.

Some webpage also says that it works on Windows, Mac and Linux. Also unconfirmed.
Further investigation required.

== Trekstor i.Beat Cube ==
This player seems to be very similar to the Samsung Yepp YP-T6, possibly with the [[#Yepp_MT-6X|same problems]] regarding Ogg playback. Trekstor has moved [http://www.trekstor.de/en/produkte/mp3-player/ibeat-cube.html info about this player] from "MP3-Player" to the "Archive" section which propably means that it is not produced anymore.

== The Muzio jm300 / jm-300 does NOT play ogg ==

NB this is the jm-300 (not 100 or 200)

I bought this a month ago. I've been unable to play ogg files on
it. It simply shows these as 'etc' files and skips over them.

Pitty really, this was the main reason I chose this player.

I've seen lots of discussion about the muzio playing oggs, is there
anybody there who owns a jm300 and is actually playing oggs ? I can't
help think I've juts missed something basic.

== Layout of the PortablePlayers list ==

Wouldn't this list be easier to read if there was a seperate heading for each product, sorted by manufacturer? --[[User:Blenda|Blenda]] 09:13, 11 January 2006 (PST)

: There'd be a ''lot'' of entries then, I like the idea of a table format as suggested by G Markham on the Vorbis list recently (cut and pasted below). Although I think providing links to suppliers for each device and trying to maintain up-to-date availability is going too far.
: [[User:Imalone|Imalone]] 09:19, 24 February 2006 (PST)

::Make it a table - or rather, four tables, for each combination of flash/hard disk and current/historical, with historical data below current. Split it up by model, not just by manufacturer - one manufacturer can have many different models with widely differing feature sets. Provide a link to the manufacturer's product page for each model, and either a table-based or a freeform list of commonly-sought features (microphone, radio, capacity, other formats). Provide details of which countries a player can be purchased in and, if it's not commonly available, details of how to find it in major markets (US, Europe).

::I want to be able to come to the page (as I tried to recently) and say "I need a flash-based player with a built-in USB connector and a mic, available in Europe", and find which models I should be googling for without difficulty.
::Gervase Markham on vorbis mailing list, inserted by [[User:Imalone|Imalone]]

: Here's a quick attempt I put together:

:{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" style="width:100%;" align="left"
|+ style="text-align: left;" | '''[http://www.iaudio.com iAudio]'''
! width="15%" | Model
! width="15%" | Storage type
! width=" 3%" | Capacity
! width=" 3%" | UMS Device
! width=" 3%" | Needs firmware update
! width="15%" | Power
! width=" 3%" | Line-in
! width=" 3%" | Mic
! width=" 3%" | Radio
! width="15%" | Other formats
! width="22%" | Comments
|- align="center"
| '''G3'''
| Flash (builtin)
| 256MB, 512MB, 1GB
| bgcolor="green" | '''x'''
| bgcolor="red" |
| AA battery
| bgcolor="green" | '''x'''
| bgcolor="green" | '''x'''
| bgcolor="green" | '''x'''
| MP3, MP2, Ogg, WMA, ASF and WAV
| Very white, available from online retailers in UK
|}

: Obviously templates would be of some use here—someone more wiki-wise than me want to suggest something? Also those check boxes, I had a quick look but haven't got a way to do them that looks good (again, if you could come up with some convoluted solution, then it could be templated for convenience). Perhaps little icons might be easier for a few things like batteries, capacity, memory type where there tends to be a limited number of common choices.
: [[User:Imalone|Imalone]] 09:56, 24 February 2006 (PST)

Theora

2006-02-24T15:49:42Z

Blenda: Please avoid the word creator, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Creator

'''Theora''' is our video codec, based on the [[VP3]] codec donated by [[On2 Technologies]]. We've refined and extended it, giving it the same future scope for encoder improvement [[Vorbis]] has. See http://theora.org/ for more information.

== Features ==

Features available in the Theora format (and a comparison to VP3 and MPEG-4 ASP):

* block-based motion compensation
* 8x8 Type-II Discrete Cosine Transform
* free-form variable bit rates (VBR)
* adaptive in-loop deblocking applied to the edges of the coded blocks (not existing in MPEG-4 ASP)
* block sizes down to 8x8 (MPEG-4 ASP supports normally only 16x16)
* 384 8x8 custom quantization matrices: intra/inter, luma/chroma and even each quant (more than VP3 and MPEG-4 ASP/AVC)
* adaptive entropy encoding (MPEG-4 ASP does'nt support adaptivity)
* 4:2:0, 4:2:2, and 4:4:4 chroma subsampling formats (VP3 and MPEG-4 ASP only support 4:2:0)
* 8 bits per pixel per color channel
* multiple reference frames (not possible in MPEG-4 ASP)
* pixel aspect ratio (eg for anamorphic signalling/playback)
* non-linear scaling of quants values (as done in MPEG-4 AVC)
* adaptive quantisation down to the block level (as possible in MPEG-4 ASP/AVC)
* intra frames (I-Frames in MPEG), inter frames (P-Frames), but no B-Frames (as supported in MPEG-4 ASP/AVC)
* HalfPixel Motion Search Precision (MPEG-4 ASP/AVC supports HalfPixel or QuarterPixel)
* technologies used already in Vorbis (decoder setup configuration, bitstream headers...) not available in VP3

Note that not all of these features are already implemented in the reference encoder/decoder.

== Status ==

Alpha 5 is the latest release. The bitstream format is frozen. Every file created with the alpha 3 encoder (and, of course, later encoders) will be playable with future decoders. Beta 1 will be the next release.

* It would be nice if somewhere it could be explained if Theora is a format appropriate for editing video - such formats would not do frame to frame compression and the file size and processor load would be smaller. On the other hand a distribution format would want to pack in a lot of compression which would mean using frame to for compression.

== Development ==

* [[Theora:Beta1ToDo|Todo for Beta1]]

== More information ==

* [[TheoraHardware]]: List of hardware-players supporting Ogg Theora
* [[TheoraSoftwarePlayers]]: List of media players that can play Ogg Theora
* [[TheoraDecoders]]: List of decoders
* [[TheoraEncoders]]: List of encoders

== External links ==

* [http://www.theora.org/ Theora homepage]
* [http://www.annodex.net/software/theora/ Theora documentation daily builds]
* [[Wikipedia: Theora]]
* [http://www.vp3.com VP3 homepage]: The homepage of the codec Theora is based on
* [http://www.on2.com On2 Technologies]: The authors of VP3
* [http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77314 Ogg Theora Information on Doom9 Forum]
* [http://www.parrishtech.com/content/view/16/1/ HOWTO: Rip DVD to Theora using Linux]

List of Theora videos

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Blenda: Better wording about jurisdictions

List of Theora videos

2006-02-24T12:48:12Z

Blenda: AIGLX demonstrations

List of Theora videos

2006-02-24T12:08:27Z

Blenda: Adding more sites

This is a list of sites where you can download videos encoded with [[Theora]].

;[http://v2v.cc/ V2V]:Video syndication network
;[http://post.thing.net/ post.thing.net]:Media site with video torrents.
;[http://punkcast.com/905/ PUNKCAST#905 Richard M Stallman]:Two video clips: ''What's GNU?'' + ''St. IGNUcius''
;[http://gplv3.fsf.org/av GPLv3 Conference, January 16-17 2006]:Speeches by Peter Brown, Eben Moglen and Richard Stallman.
;[http://www.polycrystal.org/lego/movies.html Lego Movies]:Two short movies: ''A New Computer'' and ''Swim''.
;[http://revision3.com/ Revision3]:Tech TV torrents.
;[http://handgranat.org/The_Giver The Giver]:BitTorrent tracker with independent videos and music.
;[http://share.sh.cvut.cz/Theora_demos/ CTU Prague Archive]:[http://creativecommons.org/ Creative Commons] adverts + feature film ''[http://fourthwall.creativecommons.org/honey/ Honey]''.
;[http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html Speeches about the GNU Project's philosophy]:Featuring Richard Stallman et al.
;[http://www.redhat.com/en_us/USA/rhel/informationcenter/videos/ Red Hat Videos]:Videos about the GNU/Linux vendor's customers and solutions.
;''[http://www.mininova.org/tor/234676 New Waterford Girl]'':Canadian comedy from 1999.

List of Theora videos

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Blenda: Adding more sites

This is a list of sites where you can download videos encoded with [[Theora]].

;[http://punkcast.com/905/ PUNKCAST#905 Richard M Stallman]:Two video clips: ''What's GNU?'' + ''St. IGNUcius''
;[http://gplv3.fsf.org/av GPLv3 Conference, January 16-17 2006]:Speeches by Peter Brown, Eben Moglen and Richard Stallman.
;[http://www.polycrystal.org/lego/movies.html Lego Movies]:Two short movies: ''A New Computer'' and ''Swim''.
;[http://revision3.com/ Revision3]:Tech TV torrents.
;[http://handgranat.org/The_Giver The Giver]:BitTorrent tracker with independent videos and music.
;[http://share.sh.cvut.cz/Theora_demos/ CTU Prague Archive]:[http://creativecommons.org/ Creative Commons] adverts + feature film ''[http://fourthwall.creativecommons.org/honey/ Honey]''.
;[http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html Speeches about the GNU Project's philosophy]:Featuring Richard Stallman et al.
;[http://www.redhat.com/en_us/USA/rhel/informationcenter/videos/ Red Hat Videos]:Videos about the GNU/Linux vendor's customers and solutions.
;''[http://www.mininova.org/tor/234676 New Waterford Girl]'':Canadian comedy from 1999.

List of Theora videos

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Blenda:

This is a list of sites where you can download videos encoded with [[Theora]].

;[http://handgranat.org/The_Giver The Giver]:BitTorrent tracker with independent videos and music.
;[http://share.sh.cvut.cz/Theora_demos/ CTU Prague Archive]:[http://creativecommons.org/ Creative Commons] adverts + feature film ''[http://fourthwall.creativecommons.org/honey/ Honey]''.
;[http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html Speeches about the GNU Project's philosophy]:Featuring Richard Stallman et al
;[http://www.redhat.com/en_us/USA/rhel/informationcenter/videos/ Red Hat Videos]:Videos about the GNU/Linux vendor's customers and solutions.
;''[http://www.mininova.org/tor/234676 New Waterford Girl]'':Canadian comedy from 1999.

Main Page

2006-02-24T09:07:45Z

Blenda: List of Theora videos: Availible videos encoded with Theora

In an effort to bring open-source ideals to the world of multimedia the [[Xiph.org Foundation]] develops a multitude of amazing products. This wiki describes our free and open protocols and software.

= Projects/Formats =

== Container Formats ==

* [[Ogg]]: Media container. This is our native format and the recommended container for Xiph codecs.
* [[Ogg Skeleton]]: Skeleton information on all logical content bitstreams in Ogg.

* [[SpeexRTP]]: RTP payload format for voice
* [[VorbisRTP]]: RTP payload format for general audio
* [[TheoraRTP]]: RTP payload format for video
* [[XSPF]]: XML playlist format

== Codecs ==

* '''Compressed Audio/Video Codecs:'''
** [[Vorbis]]: Audio codec with a [[Tremor|fixed point decoder]]
** [[Theora]]: Video codec
** [[FLAC]]: Free Lossless Audio Codec
** [[Speex]]: Speech codec
* '''Timed Text/Metadata Codecs:'''
** [[CMML]]: Continuous Media Markup Language, used for [http://www.annodex.net/ Annodex] and subtitles (xine, vlc, gstreamer, and DirectShow support)

== Software ==

* '''Software for distributing media'''
** [[Icecast]]: Streaming server
** [[Ices]]: Source client for Icecast servers

* '''Other software'''
** [[OggComponent/VorbisComponent]]: Wrappers to integrate Ogg-Vorbis into MacOsX

== Work in Progress ==
*[[Work In Progress]]: codecs and software still in the research and development stages.

= Demonstrations of Xiph technologies =

Want to see/hear Xiph in action? These projects are using our codecs, formats, or libraries.

* [[VorbisStreams]]: Stations streaming with the Vorbis codec
* [[Games that use Vorbis]]: Games using the Vorbis codec for music or sound effects
* [[VorbisHardware]]: Hardware players using the Vorbis codec
* [[List of Theora videos]]: Availible videos encoded with [[Theora]]

= Project management =

* [[AdminProcesses]]
* [[MonthlyMeeting]]
* [[MailingLists]]
* [[Bounties]]
* [[HyperFish]]

= Wiki internal =

* [[Sandbox]]: Testbed for testing editing skills.
* [[Translations]]: What about some translation work

XiphWiki:Community Portal

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Blenda: Adding irc channel names

There's nothing much really here, albeit the community can be found both at the [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/ Hydrogen Audio forums] and at the [[Wikipedia:Internet Relay Chat|IRC]] channels on [http://freenode.net/ Freenode] (#xiph, #vorbis and #theora).

Main Page

2006-02-23T20:10:41Z

Blenda: Reverting to spam free version of 01:37, 19 February 2006

In an effort to bring open-source ideals to the world of multimedia the [[Xiph.org Foundation]] develops a multitude of amazing products. This wiki describes our free and open protocols and software.

= Projects/Formats =

== Container Formats ==

* [[Ogg]]: Media container. This is our native format and the recommended container for Xiph codecs.
* [[Ogg Skeleton]]: Skeleton information on all logical content bitstreams in Ogg.

* [[SpeexRTP]]: RTP payload format for voice
* [[VorbisRTP]]: RTP payload format for general audio
* [[TheoraRTP]]: RTP payload format for video
* [[XSPF]]: XML playlist format

== Codecs ==

* '''Compressed Audio/Video Codecs:'''
** [[Vorbis]]: Audio codec with a [[Tremor|fixed point decoder]]
** [[Theora]]: Video codec
** [[FLAC]]: Free Lossless Audio Codec
** [[Speex]]: Speech codec
* '''Timed Text/Metadata Codecs:'''
** [[CMML]]: Continuous Media Markup Language, used for [http://www.annodex.net/ Annodex] and subtitles (xine, vlc, gstreamer, and DirectShow support)

== Software ==

* '''Software for distributing media'''
** [[Icecast]]: Streaming server
** [[Ices]]: Source client for Icecast servers

* '''Other software'''
** [[OggComponent/VorbisComponent]]: Wrappers to integrate Ogg-Vorbis into MacOsX

== Work in Progress ==
*[[Work In Progress]]: codecs and software still in the research and development stages.

= Demonstrations of Xiph technologies =

Want to hear Xiph in action? These projects are using our codecs, formats, or libraries.

* [[VorbisStreams]]: Stations streaming with the Vorbis codec
* [[Games that use Vorbis]]: Games using the Vorbis codec for music or sound effects
* [[VorbisHardware]]: Hardware players using the Vorbis codec

= Project management =

* [[AdminProcesses]]
* [[MonthlyMeeting]]
* [[MailingLists]]
* [[Bounties]]
* [[HyperFish]]

= Wiki internal =

* [[Sandbox]]: Testbed for testing editing skills.
* [[Translations]]: What about some translation work

Talk:PortablePlayers

2006-01-11T17:13:30Z

Blenda: Layout of the PortablePlayers list

There are many more portable players by TrekStor than the i.beat 500 supporting ogg vorbis.

Please add products to the main page.

I would like to know which Players can '''record''' in OGG?! -- [[User:217.186.150.213|217.186.150.213]] 17:03, 26 Dec 2004 (PST)

== Pretec Allegro may need firmware update ==

I recently purchased a Pretec Allegro, but was unable to play Oggs for three months, until the firmware update was made available on 14 or 15 March 2005. Now it works well! (So far, listening to -q3 Oggs). I'd hope that units purchased after this date already has the firmware update, but you never know. Installing the update is as simple as placing the .rom on the USB-storage-device media (eg flash disk), starting up the unit, and pressing the play button. -- Hugo van der Merwe
: How much battery runtime do you get playing Oggs compared with playing mp3? [[User:Phr|Phr]] 02:05, 27 Aug 2005 (PDT)

== Any player with SD-Cards ==

Every single ogg-capable portable player out there seems to come with built-in flash memory. Which is stupid, because I don't want to fire up my computer and plug in the player every time I get tired of the tracks on my player. Plus flash memory has a limited lifetime (write cycles) and so does your player with built-in memory. The same applies for built-in rechargable batteries.

Now when would you ever need to buy your second device without any moving parts if you could just change flash memory and batteries? Ok, that's the industrie's point of view but not mine. I want to go on vacation with music and batteries for one week of non-stop music - without a power source or computer nearby.

So, any hint to where I might find a portable audio player that can play back ogg vorbis files and uses SD flash cards (and preferably AAA-batteries) would be greatly appreciated.
* Me too! If the [http://enox.co.kr/2004/eng/product/product_830_01.asp Enox EMX-830] took SD cards it'd be perfect. --[[User:Rgm|rgm]] 14:41, 7 Nov 2005 (PST)

----

The Pretec Allegro is not the slickest player out there, it's LCD backlight seems to give off a high-pitched whine, which not everyone can hear (it kind-of screams in my ears though, so I put the backlight timer on 1 second so it doesn't scream too long). It is, however, the only one I now know of that can play Oggs, and uses removable media. If you want a nicely portable device, you have to use Pretec's "iDisk tiny" usb flash disk, the only thing that will fit inside. You can also, however, connect some USB SD-card reader with it's cable, then listen to Oggs off of SD. A little unwieldy, but, it works, and is the only thing *I* know of. (I stopped following developments in December though, when I bought it...)

== Samsung's Yepp Ogg Vorbis support ==

JoshuaRodman wrote regarding the yp-t7z:
:I received such a unit. It plays oggs encodd at -q 4, 5 and 6 without error that I have noticed. However it seems underdocumented. It plays the files in an order which is neither alpha sorted nor numeric sorted, and it does not support ogg tags. -- JoshuaRodman (March 28, 2005)
:I've investigated more. Some music encoded at even -q 5 will break up or cause difficulty. I suspect these pieces have bitrate spikes. As for the ordering, the YP-T7 plays files in 'readdir' order. That is it does not sort the files out of the filesystem at all. In practice, this means it will play the files in the order that you add them to the directory. If you are a windows user dragging and dropping the files onto the player, this problem will not affect you. A linux or possible Mac user may need to do minor scripting to alleviate this issue. --JoshuaRodman (April 13, 2005)

Spaz added for the YP-T7Z:
:After using the newest firmware I have had no issues playing OGG files. Any lockup or playback issues I had experienced went away. --Spaz (Dec 23, 2005)

Ulrich added for the YP-MT6Z:
:I think my manual says the first 8 characters of a filename are considered for sorting. As my files have the "tracknumber" tag, I wrote some Perl script that prepends that number (two digits plus a space) to the track names when being copied onto the player. I'm not sure about decoding problems, but there may be some. I encoded my files at q6 or higher.

:The chip inside seems to be a Sigmatel STMP3400M, natively specified for MP3 with addon codecs.

:It would be great of Samsung Europe would release firmware with release notes (the Korean site has newer firmware, but no English, really!). There's also some inoffical newer firmware around, but also without any release notes. Official firmware is 2.122 (on my player as delivered and on CD and website). --(Ulrich on 2005-1027)

::Two questions: 1) are ogg tags not being displayed even when the Tag option is toggle to On in the settings menu? 2) how does it handle -q 4 and -q 6 — is it just -q 5, or is it -q 5 and higher/lower? — [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 01:07, 14 Apr 2005 (PDT)

:::I have seen no evidence of vorbis tags being supported; they are not displayed. I have generally encoded at -q 5 as an attempt to stay inside the "supported" bitrate boundaries. I find that the bitrate and breakups are not directly correlated, but somewhat related. This is no surprise if the problem is CPU time exhaustion. I have not found any particular quality encoding to fail either reliably or often. In general, speeds above the stated maximum supported bitrates have seemed to work fine. No lockups of any kind have been encountered. Incidentally, over 90% of my ogg files have been processed by vorbisgain. --JoshuaRodman (July 5, 2005)

I just bought one of these and I'm baffled by its erratic Ogg support. Firmware version 1.541 seems to support tags just fine, though I haven't noticed the alpha-sorting issue (haven't looked). However, I find that it can't play all my Ogg files (freezes when it tries to load the file), and there's nothing systematic that I've found to account for this. It plays some files I encoded [[Jan 29]]-[[Jan 30]], [[2005]], but there are files that don't work before and after that date. The files that work so far were encoded with nominal bitrates of 128 and 192, while others that don't work were at 160. All encodings have used the same program (Grip under Linux). Ogg files that I've encoded with oggenc directly for testing purposes at 160 nominal bitrate work just fine. There's just something about most of my existing files.

I've emailed a support request to Samsung Canada, so I'll report what I find out then. Meanwhile I'm doing a bunch of rips with Grip to test different nominal bitrates. [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 10:53, 12 Apr 2005 (PDT)

:Results from my experiments with different nominal bitrates are summarised in this table:
{| align=center border=1
|+YP-T6 Ogg Vorbis support
|-
!   !! Tags
| none || tag* || tag + replaygain || replaygain
|-
!Bitrate (nominal) ||   ||   ||   ||   ||  
|-
| 128
|   || works || works || works || ?
|-
| 160
|   || works || works || '''freezes''' || works
|-
| 192
|   || works || works || works || ?
|}
:<nowiki>* </nowiki>"tag" means just the regular complement of artist, album, title, year, and genre.
:"?" indicates that the case was not tested

:My conclusion is that the Samsung YP-T6 can't handle Ogg Vorbis files encoded at 160 nominal bitrate if [[Wikipedia:ReplayGain|ReplayGain]] tags are applied to the file. Note too that I tested a file without real RG tags, but with the normal tags plus tags with different names than the standard RG tags but with the same name-length and same length of arguments; this was to isolate whether it was a ReplayGain-specific bug or a general tag-handling bug. Thus, I suspect that the problem is a buffer overflow in tag code of the firmware. '''Note''' that I have only tested files encoded with nominal bitrates, not files encoded with oggenc's quality settings.
:The few files in my collection that have worked were encoded at different bitrates (either 128 or 192), but unfortunately the vast majority are 160, and I need ReplayGain to be able to listen to my collection on the PC without constantly changing the volume. As a workaround I may write a script to strip the ReplayGain tags as they're moved to my player, but this rather sucks. — [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 12:36, 12 Apr 2005 (PDT)

=== Yepp YP-T7JZ/T7JX ===

Samsung appears to have model bumped the yp-t7 series with the yp-t7j series. The spec sheet does not mention OGG/Vorbis as a supported file format. This seems a real shame as the t7 worked well. Does anyone have anything more conclusive? [[User:JoshuaRodman|JoshuaRodman]] 08:26, 6 January 2006 (PST)

=== Yepp MT-6X ===

:I ([[User:Gav|Gav]]) own a Yepp MT-6X and I don't come to the same conclusions. I tried to remove the Gain tags and it didn't improve anything. Here are some tests I made :

{| align=center border=1
|+YP-MT6X Ogg Vorbis support
|-
! Encoder version || Filename || Nominal bitrate || Playback test
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20000508 (1.0 beta 1 or beta 2) || 01 - In Tenebris.ogg || unset (160 kbps) || KO
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20001031 (1.0 beta 3) || 01 - A Day Without Rain.ogg || 160 kbps || KO
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225 (1.0 beta 4) || 01 - Sunday Bloody Sunday.ogg || 128 kbps || KO
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010615 (1.0 rc1) || 01 - Remede.ogg || 128 kbps || KO
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010813 (1.0 rc2) || 01 - Devil's Haircut.ogg || 192 kbps || OK
|-
|Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011231 (1.0 rc3) || 01 - Encore Une Chance.ogg || 112 kbps || OK
|-
|Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717 (1.0) || 01 - Inferno (Unleash The Fire).ogg || 160 kbps || KO
|-
|Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030909 (1.0.1) || 01 - You Will Be a Hot Dancer.ogg || 128 kbps || OK
|-
|}

Yes, a 1.0 file fails... I also tested a 8 second file encoded at q1,q2,...,q10 using 20020717 (1.0) and it worked for every quality ! So not every 1.0-encoded file fails. See [[YeppGavDetails]] for details about the files.

: OK. I've done extensive tests and I can confirm what Saxifrage suggested : there is indeed a buffer overflow in the tag handling ! When the framing bit of the tag header is at offset >= 0x18C, it fails. If it is at exactly 0x18C, it reboots or freezes. If it is at offset > 0x18C, it always freezes. This was tested with firmware 1.101 and vorbis encoder 1.0.

: The file encoded using libVorbis 1.0 in the table above has a too large tag and that's why it fails.

: In summary, the Yepp can only play Vorbis when it is encoded with libVorbis version >= 1.0rc2 AND when the framing bit of the tag header is at offset < 0x18C.

=== Yepp YP-T6 ===

I've got this model with 256MB of flash memory, and unlike above, I ran into problems when I tried to play very-low-bitrate files (< 64kbps, CD format). I encoded them using [http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/index.html aoTuV-beta4] experiment version from aoyumi (which creates (or should create) perfectly standard and conforming files), using command-line oggenc under linux. The qualities I used for these problematic files are -q-1 (~45kbps) and -q-2 (~32kbps), and when the player tries to open the file it freezes, but for qualities from -q0 it works perfectly.

Apart from that, I've had no real problem before, using mostly -q6 files from RC3 and 1.0, without tags or with standard ones. Sometimes the sound is distorted a lot for a few tenths of seconds, it seems to be related to bitrate peaks (applauds, etc.).

Hope this will be useful, anyway thanks for the investigations on this player, I also realized the lack of information on this player's ogg support. [[User:Superdupont|Superdupont]] 16:49, 2 Aug 2005 (PDT)

Edit: firmware version: 1.543

The YP-T6 seems to be almost identical to the Trekstor i.Beat Cube.

The YP-T6s sold in the US sports an FM Radio with 16 saved settings and automatic station search. Recording from a radio program to MP3 is possible. At least the German version of the YP-T6 does not have an built-in tuner.

The German web site has moved it from from "MP3 players" to the [http://av.samsung.de/subtype_tva_audiop_mp3_archiv.asp Archived MP3 players] section, while the [http://www.samsung.com/Products/DigitalAudioPlayer/MP3Players/YP_T6ZXAA.asp US] and [http://www.samsung.com/uk/products/digitalaudioplayer/flashmemory/index.asp UK] site lists it as regular model. I don't know if this indicates that Samsung is about to stop production of the T6 or if there have been problems on the German market (like restrictive radio emission laws, see built-in tuner section above).

=== Yepp YP-53 ===

I'am not sure what's inside this player. May be it's a STMP3505. With firmware 1.200 it plays Ogg Vorbis, but not at very low bitrates(-q-1 and -q-2).[[User:nostromo|nostromo]] 4 Nov 2005.

Firmware 1.200 is a bit difficult to find, googling by file name (YP-53_V1.200.zip) gets a single relevant result: [http://bluetek.co.kr/service/guide/driver_view.asp?idx=110&tbl_name=download_kr&page=3&qtype=model&query= Korean page with a link to the updater]. If it disappears, contact me ([[User:inejge|inejge]]) via this site ('''E-mail this user''' on the linked page).

The new firmware is much nicer than the previous release (my player came with V1.024):
* It plays OGGs, starting with -q0.
* The main screen is better organized.
* Menus are cleaned up (and with more eye candy).
* Non-ASCII characters in tags are displayed properly (tested with OGG).

'''Note:''' if you are encoding OGGs at -q0, ''don't'' try to set the lower bitrate limit to 64 kb/s -- the player can choke on managed bitrate files. Nominal bitrate is all that counts.

--[[User:Inejge|Inejge]] 06:32, 12 Dec 2005 (PST)

== UniBrain iZak ==

Apologies if this is the wrong place for this; I'm new to wikis.

The UniBrain iZak was added, then removed recently, with the comment that it doesn't claim to play Ogg Vorbis.

The FAQ is available here: [http://www.unibrain.com/support/iZak/iZak_FAQ.htm iZak FAQ] and Question/Answer 22 says:

'22. Can iZak™ support OGG audio files?

Yes, iZak™ fully supports OGG playback using the latest firmware.'

:I was the one that removed it. In their specs linked from the main page, I saw that they listed only MP3 and WMA support for music formats. Obviously they need to update their promotional material! I went ahead and added the iZak back in, making a point to mention that the most current version of the firmware now supports Ogg Vorbis and linking to their FAQ as evidence. [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 02:36, 5 May 2005 (PDT)

:Splendid. I didn't want to just stick it back after it had been taken out.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 05:14, 5 May 2005 (PDT)

== Entempo Spirit ==

This inexpensive player from [http://www.entempo.com/ Entempo] lists Ogg as a "Supported Audio Format", but the device will not index the Ogg files into it's menus -- let alone play the files. Tested with both the stock and most recent firmware, May 29, 2005. Vendor has been contacted.

== Lexar LDP-800 dropped ==
It seems that Lexar have abondoned the LDP-800. The following was posted by a user on [http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.1055 dapreview.net]
" Unfortunately, lexar will not offer the LDP-800, but will focus instead
on its existing LDP Players that already offer appealing features and
benefits to meet a variety of consumer needs."
Shame.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 06:15, 22 Jul 2005 (PDT)

There's more info on that dapreview thread that indicates some confusion within Lexar. Currently, it looks like the release is going to happen in early September.

Update 2005-11-11: after inquiries to Lexar's "new products" personnel, I received a telephone message that the LDP-800 will definitely "is not going to see the light of day." Ask me if you want details. I agree that it's a shame since this looked to be an outstanding product. --[[User:dfavro|dfavro]]

== Hong Kong Dream-tech Electronic DT-202, works? please confirm ==
http://hkdream-tech.com
An ebay seller says that it can reproduce OGG. This is unconfirmed. In the manufacturer web it says: MP3, WMA, WAV, DMV and etc.

Some webpage also says that it works on Windows, Mac and Linux. Also unconfirmed.
Further investigation required.

== Trekstor i.Beat Cube ==
This player seems to be very similar to the Samsung Yepp YP-T6, possibly with the [[#Yepp_MT-6X|same problems]] regarding Ogg playback. Trekstor has moved [http://www.trekstor.de/en/produkte/mp3-player/ibeat-cube.html info about this player] from "MP3-Player" to the "Archive" section which propably means that it is not produced anymore.

== The Muzio jm300 / jm-300 does NOT play ogg ==

NB this is the jm-300 (not 100 or 200)

I bought this a month ago. I've been unable to play ogg files on
it. It simply shows these as 'etc' files and skips over them.

Pitty really, this was the main reason I chose this player.

I've seen lots of discussion about the muzio playing oggs, is there
anybody there who owns a jm300 and is actually playing oggs ? I can't
help think I've juts missed something basic.

== Layout of the PortablePlayers list ==

Wouldn't this list be easier to read if there was a seperate heading for each product, sorted by manufacturer? --[[User:Blenda|Blenda]] 09:13, 11 January 2006 (PST)

Talk:StaticPlayers

2006-01-11T17:11:58Z

Blenda: about video game consoles

strictly speaking such items like xbox, playstation, dbox2 etc are not natively supporting Ogg Vorbis, and belong only to the software players page. But they might not be found there by the crowd. what do other wiki editors think about it ?
:I added a sentence (copied from [[VorbisHardware]]) about hardware that is able to run third-party software. --[[User:Blenda|Blenda]] 09:11, 11 January 2006 (PST)
----

It is not shure, that the Yakumo Hypersound Car plays OGG. May be only the UK-Version (manuals are diffrent between UK and Germany) or only over the SD Card not from CD.

StaticPlayers

2006-01-11T17:10:01Z

Blenda: Copying text from VorbisHardware about hardware that is able to run third-party software

== Intro ==

On this page you can find all static players that are known to support Ogg Vorbis. This includes Hi-Fi components such as CD/DVD players and car audio equipment. For hardware that is able to run third-party software (such as PDAs and video game consoles), please visit [[VorbisSoftwarePlayers]].

== Hi-Fi components ==

* [http://actiontec.com/products/tech/broadband/wdmp/wdmp_overview.html Actiontec] Wireless Digital Media Player
:This player is a streaming client for video, audio and images. It supports MP3, AC3, AAC, WAV, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and internet radio. Supported picture formats are JPEG, GIF, TIF, BMP and PNG. It can play back MPEG-1/-2/-4, Xvid, RMP4. It has RCA connectors, a digital output, supports HDTV and can surf the internet.

* [http://www.adstech.com/ ADS Tech's] Media-Link
:This is a streaming client that uses ethernet and WLAN for connecting. It has a composite, component and s-video out and sterea and S/PDIF out. It supports MPEG-1/-2/-4, DivX, Xvid, MOV, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, AC3, WMA, JPG, BMP, GIF. The server software seems to support only windows.

* [http://www.buffalotech.com/ Buffalo's] PC-P3LWG/DVD
:This product is a DVD player and streaming client with HDTV support. It has wireless and wired networking and a USB port. The media server software only runs on Windows (UPnP AV). It supports many formats: video (SVCD/DVD/DivX HD/Xvid/RealMedia/WMV HD), audio (MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV, AAC, WMA, AC3) and picture (JPG, GIF, BMP, TIF, PNG). It can be integrated with the NAS solution LinkStation/TeraStation for media storage such that no PC is required.

* [http://www.cyberhome.com/ Cyberhome's] DVD 635s

:According to this [http://www.dv-rec.de/test/player2005/635/635.html review(german)] on [http://www.dv-rec.de DV-REC], it plays Ogg Vorbis and has '''buggy''' Ogm Video-support. The sound quality appears to be very good(accordimg the review), but there is no special Ogg Vorbis point of view about sound quality in the review. Some users report troubling noises from the build in CD/DVD-device.

* [http://www.digitaltechniques.com/ Digital Technique's] 080S, 160A, 160S, 300A
:These are music servers based on PC technology with a capacity from 80 to 300 GB. They support MP3, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC and WAV.

* [http://www.digitalrise.biz/ DigitalRise'] Xstream Player
:This item is part of the new generation of DVD players like the Kiss DP-600 and the models from I-O Data and Buffalo -- it can play DVDs, but also WMV-HD DVDs and supports all kinds of audio and video codecs: MPEG-1/-2/-4 (incl. DivX), WMV9, AAC, MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis.

* [http://www.dlink.com/ D-Link's] DSM-320
:A wired and wireless UPnP streaming media player. Supports decoding Ogg Vorbis as of the 1.03 firmware.

* [http://www.hermstedt.de/hifidelio/ Hermstedt's] Hifidelio, Hifidelio Pro
:The Hifidelio is a music server in hi-fi format and designed to produce high-quality sound. It uses a CD/DVD combo drive and can thus rip Audio-CDs and read from DVD-Rs, and is also able to burn CDs. It has an in-built 4-port ethernet switch, a WLAN interface, can connect to the iPod and other portable players through USB 2.0. It can connect to other Hifidelios through the UPnP/AV standard and to iTunes shares (iTunes shopping is a future feature). The songs are stored on the 80 GB harddisk. Supported formats for decoding are: MP3, Ogg Vorbis, AAC, WMA, FLAC, WAV. The Hifidelio Pro has a 160 GB hdd and some other advanced features.

* [http://www.iodata.com/ I-O Data's] AVeL LinkPlayer2
:This piece of hardware is a DVD player and a HDTV streaming client. It supports MPEG-2, DivX, XviD and WMV9 (WMV HD), as audio tracks PCM, AC3, MP3, AAC, WMA and Ogg Vorbis. It can use ethernet, WLAN and USB 2.0 to connect to media. It is available in Japan from September.

* [http://www.kenwood.com/ Kenwood's] VRS-N8100, DVF-N7080
:The new line of networked hi-fi components are supposed to decode Ogg Vorbis over the Ethernet port: the A/V receiver VRS-N8100 and the DVD player DVF-N7080.

* [http://www.kiss-technology.com/ KISS Technology's] DVD player models (basically all)
:Except for one older model (the DP-330) all DVD/DivX players from Kiss can play Ogg Vorbis files from CD-Rs and CD-RWs (but reportedly have trouble with UTF-8 comments that aren’t also ASCII), as well as DivX (but not DivX Vorbis).
:There are reportedly problems with some versions of the firmware (2.6.6 ≤ x < 2.7.1), where playback is awful for a bitrates greater than 128Kb/s.

* [http://www.medainc.com/ Meda Systems'] Bravo, Bravado
:These are media servers with up to 500 GB storage. They can be controlled via PDA and support MP3, WAV, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. They can also connect to the local network via ethernet.

* [http://www.xbox.com/ Microsoft's] Xbox
:The Xbox is a gaming console based on PC hardware, including a 733 MHz processor, 8 GB harddisk, a DVD drive and an Ethernet port. The console can be [http://waltercedric.com/Mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemid=40 modded] to allow the installation of third-party software, such as the [http://www.xboxmediacenter.de/ Xbox Media Center] project. Once installed the Xbox becomes a media center and streaming client. It supports vast amounts of audio, video and picture standards, including Ogg Vorbis and FLAC.

* [http://www.momitsu.com/ Momitsu's] V880N
:The V880N is a disc player and streaming client. It supports DVD, VCD/SVCD, Audio CD, Picture CD, MP3, JPEG, DivX, Xvid on discs and MOV, Ogg Vorbis, AAC, WMA, AC3 and internet radio over ethernet. In addition to the usual TV connection it supports digital video (DVI) and audio (coaxial/optical) output in HDTV. It has a LAN interface and a PC card slot for a WLAN card.

* [http://www.mpsharp.com/ MP Sharp Technologies'] Digital Jukebox
:The MPST Digital Jukebox is a Linux PC designed for audio playback and sold as a stereo component, which of course can play Vorbis.

* [http://www.netgem.com Netgem's] iPlayer
:The iPlayer is primarily a DVB-T receiver, which includes an in-built modem and can also use a small range of USB ethernet adaptors to connect to a network. Supported media formats include MPEG and MPEG2, MP2 and MP3 and, in the latest release, Ogg Vorbis. Technical limitations in the USB controller limit the practical bandwidth of media to around 4 megabits/second. Perhaps the reason for the rather limited range of media formats supported is that the iPlayer is based on low-cost hardware - in the UK Netgem's own branded iPlayer usually retails for around £90. Netgem also host a [http://forum.netgem.com forum]. In addition to the Netgem branded iPlayer in the UK, branded devices are available from other manufacturers such as [http://player.teac.com.au/ Teac] (the ITV-D500, for the Australian market). With the imminent launch of DTT in France, Netgem is also expected to launch a model there.

* [http://www.neuston.com/ Neuston's] Maestro DVX-1201
:This is a standalone DVD player that supports Vorbis.

* [http://www.tuxbox.org/ Nokia/Philips/Sagem] DBox2
:This device, manufactured by Nokia, Philips and Sagem until 2002 in huge numbers for the German Pay-TV provider Premiere, is a DVB-C or DVB-S receiver. It features a 10Mbit Ethernet interface and a nifty graphics display. The original software on this device was always a bit flakey. The alternate Linux-based [http://www.tuxbox.org/ Tuxbox] project includes an audio player that perfectly plays Ogg Vorbis files from a NFS or CIFS share. Streaming is in beta state.

* [http://www.olive.us/ Olive Inc's] Musica
:This is obviously a relabeled Hifidelio Pro for the US market. For details see the entry of Hermsted.

* [http://www.phatnoise.com/products/index.php PhatNoise's] Home Player
:The Home Digital Media Player uses the same cartridges as the PhatBox, and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box.

* [http://www.philips.com Philips] DVP-5500S/5505 DVD/DIVX/CD/SACD Player
:Although it's not written in the manual, this player indeed support Ogg Vorbis out of the box (as well as vorbis in an avi container, divx/xvid in an OGM container....) I don't know if there are limitations. I don't understand why it's not advertised.

* [http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ Pinnacle's] ShowCenter 200
:This is a streaming box for audio and video. It supports MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-2 VOB, MPEG-4 AVI, Xvid, WMV9 and even WMV-HD video. Picture formats are JPEG, BMP, PNG and GIF. The box has native support for MP3, WAV and WMA, other codecs such as Ogg Vorbis are supported by the server software and are transcoded to 192kbit MP3s (!) on the fly.

* [http://www.pontis.de/site_e/home_e.htm Pontis'] MediaServer MS300, MS330
:The website stupidly doesn't mention Ogg Vorbis support, but it is there, along with MP3. The MS300 is a music server that runs Linux and comes with 80 or whopping 300 GB of storage. It has an ethernet port that lets other desktops access the music via Samba, and supports hardware streaming clients that use the Slimserver protocol ([http://www.slimdevices.com/ Slimdevices], [http://www.rokulabs.com/ Roku]). The USB port and the memory card slot can be used to read in music from portable players and photos from digital cameras. Pictures can be viewed via SCART on the TV. The MS330 is similar to the MS300, but can also burn CDs from the CD drive, has a 6-in-1 memory card slot and supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and FLAC.

* [http://www.reson.de/ Reson's] rh1
:The rh1 is a Hifidelio which has been modified for audiophile requirements (new DA component etc).

* [http://www.rokulabs.com/ Roku's] HD1000, M1000, M2000
:Roku's streaming audio clients support the Slimserver from Slimdevice's products (for details see below).

* [http://www.skipjam.com/imedia_audio_player.php SkipJam's] iMedia Audio Player, iMedia Audio Player Pro
:The iMedia Audio Player is a streaming client with two Ethernet ports and supports MP3, WAV, PCM, WMA, AAC, AC3 FLAC, and Ogg Vorbis directly. Through PC-Server software it also plays M4A and M4P. It has two digital (optical/coaxial) and one analog output. The pro version can stream the same formats through ethernet or through built-in Homeplug power line networking, and has a built-in 30W/Chan digital amp. The pro unit is designed for installation in-wall in a 6-gang junction box.

* [http://www.slimdevices.com/ Slimdevice's] Squeezebox, Squeezebox2, Squeezebox3
:The Squeezebox is a streaming receiver, that uses LAN or WLAN to stream audio. It supports decoding of MP3 and raw PCM. The server software is open source and available for a number of platforms (Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, FreeBSD) and decodes other formats, like Ogg Vorbis and FLAC, on the fly to PCM before streaming. The Squeezebox2 uses the same server software, but can decode FLAC natively, which lowers network traffic for other formats than MP3 considerably. The Squeezebox3 has basically the same features as version 2, but the design has been revamped completely and is more luxurious.

* [http://www.sonos.com/ Sonos'] Multi Zone Digital Music System
:Sonos is a complete music system for a house that consists of speakers that are connected wirelessly to a media server. The system also supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC.

* [http://www.playstation.com/ Sony's] Playstation 2
:The [http://www.trend-express.com/en/medio.html Medio Digital Media Player] transforms the Playstation2 into a streaming client, supporting various audio and video formats, including Ogg Vorbis.

* [http://www.trans-technology.com/ Transgear's] DVX-500E
:This gadget is a DVD player and streaming client. It supports MPEG-1/-2/DivX/Xvid/VOB/DVB and WAV/MP3/WMA/AAC/Ogg Vorbis and JPG/BMP/GIF/TIF/PNG.

* [http://www.umax.de/ Umax/Yamada]
**DVX-6600 For the DVD/DivX player DVX-6600 a future firmware is supposed to be able to decode Ogg Vorbis, but there is no release date yet.
**[http://www.umax.de/WebNew/Produkte/9_HomeEntertainment/DVX-6700/DVX-6700.htm DVX-6700]

* [http://www.yamakawa.de/ Yamakawa's] DVD-375
:The Yamakawa DVD-375 supports Ogg Vorbis.

* [http://www.z500series.com/ Zensonic's] Z500
:The Z500 is a networked multimedia player. It is almost unbelievable how many media types are supported. Video formats: HDTV, DVD, WMV9, DivX, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, HighMAT, Matroska. Audio formats: Audio CD, MP3, FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, AAC, WMA, DVD Audio, and internet radios. Pictures: JPEG, PNG, TIF etc. It supports USB mass storage devices and connects through Gigabit Ethernet or WLAN to the network. The server software runs on Windows, Mac and Linux (UPnP Streaming). Among other connectors it supports the new HDMI standard.

* [http://www.tversity.com TVersity Media Server]:
:A UPNP/AV compliant media server that uses the Ogg Vorbis libraries to transcode audio files to the Ogg Vorbis format.

== Car Audio ==

* [http://www.kenwood.com/ Kenwood's] Music Keg
:The [http://www.kenwoodusa.com/products/ListProduct.aspx?k1=2&k2=5&k3=71&pr=2008 Music Keg KHD-C710] uses the same system as the PhatBox below, which means Ogg Vorbis support is available. But it seems, that only the software can encode to the HD, but can't play from the Music Keg. [http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-g2FinmVl7fe/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?print=Y&g=50800&id=detailed_info&i=113KHDC710]

* [http://www.phatnoise.com/products/index.php PhatNoise's] PhatBox
:The PhatBox is a audio entertainment system for the car. It uses a cartridge to store the music, and it can be filled with music through a docking station for the PC. As of version 3.1 of the desktop software (Phatnoise Music Manager), ogg vorbis is supported out of the box.

* [http://www.volkswagen-individual.de/ Volkswagen's] Golf, Golf Plus, Touran
:Well, this is a great development for Vorbis hardware support. From January 2006 onwards all Golf, Golf Plus and Touran models will offer an USB port, which support USB sticks with music. Supported formats include MP3, WAV, WMA and Ogg Vorbis. Find more information in German at [http://www.volkswagen-individual.de/de/golf/golf_ausstatt.html]. On a related note, the iPod is supported too.

* [http://www.yakumo.com/produkte/index.php?pid=1&ag=Autoradio Yakumo's] Hypersound Car
:This in-dash car CD player supports Ogg Vorbis, MP3, and WMA playback from CD-R or USB stick, according to the Technical Specifications page of the user manual. One slashdot user [http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=165980&cid=13852878 reports] that it works.

== Media Storage ==

* [http://www.gennetworks.com/ GenNetwork's] GenMedia DivXStorage
:This is an external harddrive as a video storage to connect to TV sets. It comes in various versions and storage sizes. It comes with USB 2.0 and a remote control. HDTV resolution, 5.1 sound and the following file formats are supported: MPEG-4/DVD/VCD/SVCD/AudioCD/JPEG/MP3. For the [http://www.gennetworks.com/pro_genmedia02.htm 3,5"] and deck version OGG format is mentioned.

Vorbis Hardware

2006-01-11T17:07:47Z

Blenda: Mentioning video game consoles so that they will be easier to find since they aren't listed at StaticPlayers (see also Talk:StaticPlayers)

This is a list of hardware of all categories, from chipsets to ready-to-use products, that support Ogg Vorbis.

Hardware support status for Ogg Vorbis is relatively good, you can choose between a huge amount of mobile flash players, many HDD based players and a respectable number of Hi-Fi components. More than 50 different companies offer a total of more than a hundred products for virtually every application, there is even a knife that can play Ogg Vorbis now ;-). If you can't find a suitable player come back next week -- new products are added on a weekly basis, as many companies are working to support Vorbis on their hardware.

If you know of any hardware or projects that are not yet mentioned here, please add them to the list. More (outdated) hardware info can be found at [http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/hardware.html vorbis hardware page].

== Consumer products ==

These players support Ogg Vorbis either out of the box or after a firmware upgrade.

* [[PortablePlayers]]: mobile players
* [[StaticPlayers]]: installed players

For hardware that is able to run third-party software (such as PDAs and video game consoles), please visit [[VorbisSoftwarePlayers]].

== Non-consumer products ==

This is Vorbis in Silicon, meaning chips from which actual consumer products can be built.

* [http://oggonachip.sourceforge.net/ Ogg On A Chip]
:A hardware/software implementation with a good report showing how to make FPGAs and the like to decode Vorbis streams.

* [http://www.finearch.com/english FineArch]
:FineArch, Inc. developed a hardware core and control software for decoding Vorbis. This technology can be integrated into portable players or cell phones, and since it runs at only 12MHz, it uses very little battery power. It supports files up to 64Kb/s, but could be scaled to 16MHz and 128Kb/s, at the expense of battery life. For more information, see FineArch’s [http://www.finearch.com/english/news/pr_20030715/pr_20030715.htm press release].

* [http://www.mcslogic.com/ MCS Logic]
:MCS Logic creates single chip decoders that can play Ogg Vorbis. They supply the Vorbis decoding chips for Havin and Freemax.

* [http://www.telechips.com Telechips]
:Telechips has developed the TCC72x, a single chip decoder that can play Vorbis. The TCC72x series is based on on an ARM940T core, and it is used widely in Korea for players such as Iops or MobiBlu.

* [http://www.tamulsite.co.kr Tamul Multimedia]
:Tamul Multimedia manufactures decoding chips for Samsung. They claim they have Ogg Vorbis decoding firmware, according to [http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003031002011367704002 The Digital Times] (Korean).

* [http://www.sigmatel.com/ SigmaTel]
:SigmaTel hasn't announced anything that we've heard, but we do like this quote:
<blockquote>"I talked to Deborah Clark, product marketing engineer for audio chipmaker Sigmatel out of Austin, Tex. She is the company's expert in audio decoders. She says there is a growing base of support for Ogg Vorbis. "We can't keep paying these high licensing fees for this. Manufacturers would flock to something that's free." </blockquote>
:from a 2000 [http://www.forbes.com/2000/09/18/dvorak_index.html column in Forbes]

:Some STMP3500-based devices supports Ogg Vorbis, but there are no notes about this on SigmaTel-website.

:SigmaTel introduces the STMP3600 with support for Ogg Vorbis, MP3, AAC, WMA and more.[http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2005-10/artikel-5493211.asp]

PortablePlayers

2006-01-11T17:01:29Z

Blenda: iAudio U3 MPEG-4 video

Here you can find all mobile players known to support Ogg [[Vorbis]]. Some do also play FLAC (please add information).

== Flash Memory Storage ==

* [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).

* [http://enox.co.kr/2004/eng/ ENOX] EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type MP3 players.' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats.

* [http://www.ez-av.com/eng/ EZAV's] EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400
:The EMP-500 is a very light player, comes with 256/512/1024MB storage and supports MP3, WMA, and Ogg Vorbis. The EMP-400 has 256MB storage.

* [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player, supports MP3 and Ogg Vorbis. Uses SD cards for storage (sold seperately).

* [http://eng.iaudio.com/ iAudio] U3, U2, G3, 5, G2
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowins newest flash-based player. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only).

* [http://www.ibead.co.kr/coding/eng/ i-BEAD] 170, 400, 600
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.

* [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350
:Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.

* [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, T10, T20, U10
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 1GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriver.com/support/download.asp support download page] for that. Note -- on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (96-225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players use weird protocols like MTP so they only work with Windows. Please note that the newer H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. See here for more information --> [http://easyh10.sourceforge.net/].

* [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg-Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color display.

* [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.

* [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.

* [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo
: It's not yet on the homepage, but the Max-Diamond will be released in 03/2005 and supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage.

* [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more.

* [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder.

* [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.

* [http://www.neurosaudio.com/ Neuros'] Neuros II
:The Neuros II can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].

* [http://www.pretec.com/OnlineSales/SSD/iDisk/Allegro/Allegro.htm Pretec's] Allegro
:The player supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis formats, uses USB Flash Drives for storage, has a 128x64 pixel blue screen with file info in 5 languages, 6 preset sound stages, one user defined graphic equalizer, low power consumption.

* [http://eng.qoolqee.com/ Qoolqee's] K7
:This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones.

* [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-53, YP-U1
:The YP-T6 is an incredibly small flash player with 128/256/512/1024 MB storage, has a mic and FM radio and supports MP3, WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. The YP-T7 has either 512MB or 1GB capacity and supports the same audio formats, which also applies to the YP-F1. It can display JPEGs on its color display. The YP-C1 has similar specs, including Ogg support; at the time of writing, it seems to be readily available only in Korea and China. The YP-53, a small flash player with 128/256/512/1024 MB storage, mic, USB 2.0 and FM radio, supports MP3, WAV, WMA(DRM), Ogg Vorbis(-q >= 0) with Firmware 1.200. The YP-U1 is a small (2,38 x 8,78 x 1,35 cm, ~32g) flash player with 128/256/512/1024/2048 MB storage. The player has a LCD b/w display and an integrated accumulator that is charged via USB. It supports USB2.0 and has an integrated USB-plug that can be flipped in and out, so no cable or adapter is needed. Besides OGG the YP-U1 supports MP3, ASF and WMA (and directory structures).

:*[[Talk:PortablePlayers#Samsung's Yepp Ogg Vorbis support|There have been reports that the Ogg Vorbis support in the YP-T6 is buggy.]]

* [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600].
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible--smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.

* [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance
:Found this player in the local supermarket, the website seems to be a joke. The player is very small, has a 1 inch color LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis.

* [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.

* [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400
:The MP-400 is a flsh-player with either 512/1024MB storage. It supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and MPEG-4 video.

* [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] iBeat fresh, iBeat organix, iBeat cube, iBeat ice, iBeat vision
:The iBeat fresh comes with 256/512 MB storage has a 64K color display and the usual features. The iBeat organix is supposed to get a firmware upgrade and comes with 256/512/1024 MB flash memory. The iBeat cube is a very small player with the usual features. The iBeat ice has a sharp OLED display. The iBeat vision has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 256MB to 2GB.

* [http://www.wigobyte.com/ Wigo's] CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.

* [http://www.xcent.co.kr Xcent's] XT100
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. It supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and has FM radio and voice recording. It also works under Linux (kernel 2.4 upwards) and FreeBSD 5.3 (recognised as a removable mass storage device).

== Harddisk Storage ==

* [http://www.airlinktek.com/ AL Tech's] MG-25, MG-35, MG350HD
:The Mediagate MG-25 is a portable HDD that supports also media playback. It uses a 2,5" disk and USB2.0 to connect, and supports MPEG-1/-2/-4, DivX, Xvid, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, JPG. It can upsample to HDTV, has composite, component and s-video outs, stereo and a digital out. Remote control is included. The MG-35 uses a 3,5" HDD instead, supports WMA and ethernet. The MG350HD uses a 3,5" HDD as well and supports HDTV.

* [http://www.boghe.com/products/audio/vip20.htm Boghe] Vip20
:The Vip20 seems to be similar to the iBeat 500 from TrekStor and Xclef HD-800. It has the same features: MP3, WMA, WAV, Ogg Vorbis decoding plus 20 GB storage.

* [http://www.commodore.net/ Commodore's] eVic
:The eVic has 20GB storage and plays WMA (incl. DRM), MP3 and Ogg Vorbis. It can record voice and music, and has USB host functionality.

* [http://www.digmind.com/ Digital Mind Corporation's] DMC 8280
:The [http://www.digmind.com/store/index_8280.html DMC 8280] has 20 GB or 30 GB storage, plays Ogg Vorbis, MP3 and WMA. Standard feature set; this player does not excel in any area but price. USB mass storage compliant -- you can put songs on it from non-Windows computers, but full indexing of the songs for reference by artist etc. requires Windows.

* [http://www.emtec-international.com/ Emtec's] Movie Cube
:The Movie Cube comes with a 2,5" HDD with 40 or 80 GB size. It supports the playback of various audio and video formats including Ogg Vorbis. The package includes some AV cables and a remote control.

* [http://www.freecom.com/ Freecom's] MediaPlayer-3, Network MediaPlayer-35 Drive-In
:The MediaPlayer-3 is again sort of an external HDD that can play media without a PC. It supports DivX, MP3, MPEG-4, AVI, WMA, ASF and Ogg Vorbis. The product with the complicated name Network MediaPlayer-35 Drive-In is an enhanced version of the MediaPlayer-3 -- it has an additional network interface and supports an internal 3,5" drive. The ethernet port can be used to read media from the network, but cannot be used as network attached storage.

* [http://www.godot.com.tw/ GoDot] M8170, M8270, M8370, M8470, M8570
:GoDot's HD players have capacity ranging from 2.2gb to 20gb. Each model is very different. They support Ogg Vorbis, MP3 and WMA (some models support DRM).

* [http://www.hama.de/portal?lid=2 Hama's] VSV-20/VSV-40
:The VSV-20/VSV-40 has the usual mobile MP3 HDD player size and can read/write from its 16in1 memory card reader and 20 GB or 40 GB internal HDD. But it can do more than audio (MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, AAC). It supports image (JPEG) and video (MPEG-1/-4) playback on the 2" display and on a connected TV. It even includes a remote control. Beware: Hama has suspended OggVorbis support. However, there is a Firmware update promised to reestablish OggVorbis. If you plan to buy a device check the [http://www.hama.de/service/download/firmware/index.hsp Firmware download page] or better [http://www.hama.de/portal/pageId*2276/action*3499 ask them] about the current status of OggVorbis support.

* [http://eng.iaudio.com/ iAudio] M3, M5, X5, A2
:The iAudio M3 is a portable harddisk player with either 20 or 40 GB of storage. It has a built-in FM radio and mic. It supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and WAV and even FLAC with the newest firmware upgrade. See this [http://gear.ign.com/articles/522/522090p1.html IGN article] for more info. The M5 has 20 GB storage and supports the same formats. The X5 is designed similar (storage sizes of 20GB, 30GB, 60GB) and can play MPEG-4 videos. It has a 1.8 inch LCD with 260,000 colors and USB OTG (On-The-Go) feature. The A2 is released in November 2005 and is a widescreen mobile video player. It has a 480 x 272 pixel screen and supports the above metioned set of audio, video and image formats.

* [http://www.ivmm.com/innoax/products_innopod.html InnoAX's] InnoPod
:This is a iPod mini clone, that supports MP3, WMA, WAV and Ogg Vorbis. It supports recording from line-in and mic, has a 4 GB harddrive and USB2.0.

* [http://www.iomega.com/ Iomega's] ScreenPlay Pro
:Iomega is finally also jumping on the bandwaggon and offers external HDDs with multimedia-playback. The larger version ScreenPlay Pro supports the usual audio and video codecs including Ogg Vorbis. It seems to be a repackaged Mvisto with HDD included [http://www.iomega-europe.com/eu/en/products/screenplay/screenplay_family_en.aspx ScreenPlay Pro].

* [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] iHP-1xx, H1xx, H2xx, H3xx, iGP-100
:iRiver has also a number of harddisk based items that play back Ogg Vorbis. Older models like the [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-100 iHP-100] and the [http://www.iriver.co.kr/product/info.asp?p_group=iHP&p_name=iHP-115 iHP-115] come in 10 and 15 GB sizes and need a firmware update (see the [http://www.iriver.com/support/download.asp support downloads] for that). The [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-120 iHP-120], a 20GB portable player, and the [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-140 iHP-140], a 40GB version, support Vorbis playback out of the box. Read reviews here: [http://gear.ign.com/articles/435/435472p1.html IGN on iHP-100], [http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457818p1.html IGN on iHP-120]. The [http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iGP-100.asp iGP-100], a 1.5Gb portable player, supports Vorbis, according to the FAQ, though no firmware upgrade appears to be required. The new line of harddisk players [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=H140H110 H120, H140] come in 10 to 40 GB sizes. There is also a product line with USB host function and colour display that supports 32-500kbs: [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=H340 H320, H340].

* [http://www.jetaudio.com/products/tvix/ JetAudio's] [http://www.tvix.co.kr/eng/ Dvico's] TViX
:This is a rather unique device. JetAudio calls it a multimedia jukebox, music tank, photo album and last but not least a portable storage. It is bigger than usual portable devices, but has also a lot more options. It can connect to the PC (USB 2.0), TV (S-Video, Composite), stereos and 5.1 surround systems (Coaxial/Optical) and comes with a remote control. Supported video formats are DVD (MPEG-2), VCD (MPEG-1), DivX, Xvid. Supported Audio formats are MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis. It can display JPEG pictures on the TV. It is available without a harddrive, or equipped with harddrive sizes up to 200 GB.

* [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-M3, SSF-M5
:The SSF-M3 comes with 20/40GB storage size, whereas the SSF-M5 has only 1.5 GB. Both support voice recording and FM radio. The SSF-M3 is more stylish and very slim and comes with a docking station.

* [http://www.lge.com/ LG's] Mediagate
:This player is similar to the Modix or TViX. It is a portable USB HDD equipped with a 2,5" drive (size varies). It plays audio (MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WMA), video (MPEG-1/-2, Xvid, DivX) and images (JPEG). It has composite, s-video and component video output and supports progressive scan, audio output is done through a coaxial and stereo plug. The device is bundled with a remote control.

* [http://www.modix.co.kr/ Modix] HD-3510
:The HD-3510 is similar to the TViX, as it is sort of a portable multi-talent. It can store and playback audio, video and images, and can be used for other files as well. It can decode MPEG-1/-2/-4 including DivX/Xvid, AC3, DTS, MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and JPEG. It uses USB2.0 for data input and has various ouput connectors: anlog stereo and 5.1 out, coaxial digital out, composite, s-video and component video out with progressive scan and HDTV upscaling. The HD-3510 is bundled with a carrying bag and a remote control, but without a 3,5" HDD.

* [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye's] HT-100, HT-150
:The HT-100 uses a 1,5 GB HDD, decodes MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and supports the usual features. The HT-150 seems to have the same features (maybe a mistake on the website).

* [http://www.mpio.com/ mpio] HD300, HD200, One
:mpio HD300 is a harddisk player with 20GB and supports WAV/MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis. It has FM radio, an alarm clock and supports USB 2.0. The HD200 has 5GB storage capacity, a FM radio which can be recorded and supports the same formats as the HD300. Despite its name the One consist of three components: a player, a HDD and a CD-ROM drive, which can be combined with each other. It supports [[MP3]], [[WMA]], Ogg Vorbis, JPG, BMP and MPEG-4 movies. It has a 1" OLED display and will be available from 05/2005.

* [http://www.imp3.net/read.php?textid=1529 Muzio's] JM-600
:This player comes with either 2.2 or 4 GB harddrive and supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and ASF. It can record voice and has a FM receiver. What sets this player apart is the LCD -- it can show BMPs, JPGs and text. The device can also act as a USB host to support digital cameras.

* [http://www.macpower.com.tw/ Macpower] Mvisto MV-U2UGS
:The Mvisto is a portable hardware enclosure for 2,5" harddrives. It has video and audio outs and decodes MPEG1/2/Divx/Xvid/JPEG/MP3/WMA/AAC/Ogg Vorbis. It comes with a remote control.

* [http://www.neurosaudio.com/ Neuros'] Neuros II
:This mobile player comes either with various harddrive sizes up to 80 GB or as 256 MB flash player. The new firmware to support Ogg Vorbis has been developed by the Xiph.org Foundation (see the [http://www.neurosaudio.com/press/news_item.aspx?itemID=80 press release]). Get the newest firmware version at Neuros' [http://www.neurosaudio.com/support/support_updates.asp support page]). The Neuros Synchronization Manager for Windows is available from the same link and now fully supports the addition of Vorbis files to the Neuros. *nix users can use Xiph.org's [http://www.xiph.org/positron/ Positron], Sean Starkey's Java [http://neurosdbm.sf.net/ Neuros Database Manipulator], or [http://www.sorune.com/ Sorune], all of which provide full Neuros database support and other features. Neuros II discontinued. Neuros III is planned but indefinite but they have a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/archives/Product%20Roadmap3-15-2005.htm roadmap].

* [http://www.nextway.co.kr/ Nextway's] D Cube NHD-150D
:This player uses a small 1,5 GB harddisk and supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis. It connects trough USB 2.0 and can broadcast music through a FM sender.

* [http://www.pontis.de/ Pontis'] MX2020
:There is now a firmware update for the MX2020 that adds Ogg Vorbis support, which is a portable player for movies, music and photos.

* [http://www.modix-hd.com/ Rapsody's] RSH-100
:It is similar to the Modix HD-3510, but supports USB host functionality additionally. This web site is dead. The Savit Micro Rapsody [http://www.savitmicro.co.kr/eng/product/tv/tv_rapsody.htm RSH-100] can be seen on their site.

* [http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/rioaudio/ Rio's] Karma
:The Rio [http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/item.asp?model=261 Karma] is a portable player with a harddisk of 20 GB. It can decode MP3, Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 is used to connect to PCs, but a docking station is also included which offers ethernet and RCA line-out support. IGN has written a [http://gear.ign.com/articles/458/458401p1.html review] about the gadget, articles about the Karma can be found at [http://www.riovolution.com Riovolution]. Note that firmware versions prior to 1.25 cause stability problems for some people, visit the [http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/support/rio/product.asp?prodID=113 support page] to get the newest version. The Karma was discontinued in March 2005, Rio (DNNA) effectively dissolved 27-July-2005 assets sold to [http://www.sigmatel.com/ SigmaTel].

* [http://www.safa.com.hk/index_110R.html Safa] HMP-110R
:A portable player with 1.5GB memory, FM-receiver, recording function, upgradeable firmware, etc.

* [http://www.samsung.com Samsung] YH-J70
:A portable Multimedia Jukebox as seen on their [http://www.samsung.com/common/microsite/exhibition/cebit2005/base.asp?pcode=IT01 Cebit 2005 Microsite]. Comes with 20/30GB disk, colour display, video player and USB host function

* [http://www.sitecom.com/ Sitecom's] MP-330, MP-010
:The MP-330 player uses a 4,4 GB harddrive, USB 2.0 and supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis (mentioned in the manual). The MP-010 is a portable media player. As such it supports music, movies and pictures. This includes MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, MPEG-1/-2/-4. It has a capacity of 40GB, comes with a remote control and has various ports for the TV.

* [http://www.teac.de/ TEAC] MP-1000, MP-2000
:TEAC MP-1000 is an ultra-compact harddrive player with 1.5GB capacity and only 70g mass. The follow-up model MP-2000 has 5 GB storage and supports the same formats (MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis).

* [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] iBeat 500, iBeat 300
:The iBeat 500 is a portable harddisk player with 20 GB of storage. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis and uses USB 2.0 to connect to PCs. It has a FM radio and an in-built mic. It seems to be available only in Germany (looks like a rebadged Xclef HD-800). The iBeat 300 uses a 1,5 GB HDD and has a color display.

* [http://www.unibrain.com/iZak Unibrain's] iZak
:This is a portable USB hard disk with 40/80/100 GB of storage. It plays a wide range of video formats, including dixv/xvid/bvix/dvd iso. A good review can be found [http://www.mpeg-playcenter.com/modules/Reviews/reviews/Review_iZak.pdf here].
:The most current firmware release supports Ogg Vorbis playback according to [http://www.unibrain.com/support/iZak/iZak_FAQ.htm Unibrain's iZak FAQ].

* [http://www.xclef.com/ Xclef's] HD-800, HD-500
:This is a harddisk player with 20/40/60 GB storage size, and can decode MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and WAV. It has a FM radio and a mic for recording voice. Though not mentioned on the web site, the HD-500 is also supposed to decode Ogg Vorbis.

== CD/DVD Audio Players ==

* [http://www.ifreemax.com/ Freemax's] FW-960
:This CD-R portable supports Ogg Vorbis playback out of the box. It has 48 hours of WMA playback if an external battery pack (2 AA batteries) is used. The FreeMax FW-960 is also known as the mpman MP-CD550.

* [http://www.exonion.com/ Havin's] (link dead) Exonion HVC-400E, [http://www.princeton.co.jp/ Princeton's] Pocket Beat airCD
:The Havin HVC-400E, also known as the Princeton airCD is probably on sale in Japan since late November, 2003.

* [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iMP-550 iRiver] iMP-250, iMP-350, iMP-400, iMP-550, iMP-700(T)
:Ogg Vorbis is supported only through latest beta firmwares, still some bitrate restriction which may vary depending on the model (min=96kbps, max=160kbps). The iMP-550 supports maximum bitrate up to 256kps (still 96kbps as minimum). Also note the latest iMP-450 does not support OGG for the moment, a future upgrade may correct this... The iMP-700T with firmware 1.40 supports bitrates between 96 and 210 kbps, and .ogg files are generally not as loud as .mp3 files.

* [http://www.samsungusa.com/ Samsung's] MCD-CM600
:The MCD-CM600 is now available in Korea. It is a CD portable that can play Vorbis, MP3, and WMA.

* [http://www.roadstar.com/ Roadstar] PCD-5960WOMPT

== Portable Digital Assistants (PDAs) ==

PDAs are also cable of operating as portable music players using available software applications. Please visit [http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/VorbisSoftwarePlayers VorbisSoftwarePlayers] for more information.

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PortablePlayers

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Blenda: Adding iAudio U3

Here you can find all mobile players known to support Ogg [[Vorbis]]. Some do also play FLAC (please add information).

== Flash Memory Storage ==

* [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).

* [http://enox.co.kr/2004/eng/ ENOX] EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type MP3 players.' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats.

* [http://www.ez-av.com/eng/ EZAV's] EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400
:The EMP-500 is a very light player, comes with 256/512/1024MB storage and supports MP3, WMA, and Ogg Vorbis. The EMP-400 has 256MB storage.

* [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player, supports MP3 and Ogg Vorbis. Uses SD cards for storage (sold seperately).

* [http://eng.iaudio.com/ iAudio] U3, U2, G3, 5, G2
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowins newest flash-based player. It also supports FLAC. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only).

* [http://www.ibead.co.kr/coding/eng/ i-BEAD] 170, 400, 600
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.

* [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350
:Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.

* [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, T10, T20, U10
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 1GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriver.com/support/download.asp support download page] for that. Note -- on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (96-225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players use weird protocols like MTP so they only work with Windows. Please note that the newer H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. See here for more information --> [http://easyh10.sourceforge.net/].

* [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg-Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color display.

* [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.

* [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.

* [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo
: It's not yet on the homepage, but the Max-Diamond will be released in 03/2005 and supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage.

* [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more.

* [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder.

* [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.

* [http://www.neurosaudio.com/ Neuros'] Neuros II
:The Neuros II can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].

* [http://www.pretec.com/OnlineSales/SSD/iDisk/Allegro/Allegro.htm Pretec's] Allegro
:The player supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis formats, uses USB Flash Drives for storage, has a 128x64 pixel blue screen with file info in 5 languages, 6 preset sound stages, one user defined graphic equalizer, low power consumption.

* [http://eng.qoolqee.com/ Qoolqee's] K7
:This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones.

* [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-53, YP-U1
:The YP-T6 is an incredibly small flash player with 128/256/512/1024 MB storage, has a mic and FM radio and supports MP3, WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. The YP-T7 has either 512MB or 1GB capacity and supports the same audio formats, which also applies to the YP-F1. It can display JPEGs on its color display. The YP-C1 has similar specs, including Ogg support; at the time of writing, it seems to be readily available only in Korea and China. The YP-53, a small flash player with 128/256/512/1024 MB storage, mic, USB 2.0 and FM radio, supports MP3, WAV, WMA(DRM), Ogg Vorbis(-q >= 0) with Firmware 1.200. The YP-U1 is a small (2,38 x 8,78 x 1,35 cm, ~32g) flash player with 128/256/512/1024/2048 MB storage. The player has a LCD b/w display and an integrated accumulator that is charged via USB. It supports USB2.0 and has an integrated USB-plug that can be flipped in and out, so no cable or adapter is needed. Besides OGG the YP-U1 supports MP3, ASF and WMA (and directory structures).

:*[[Talk:PortablePlayers#Samsung's Yepp Ogg Vorbis support|There have been reports that the Ogg Vorbis support in the YP-T6 is buggy.]]

* [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600].
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible--smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.

* [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance
:Found this player in the local supermarket, the website seems to be a joke. The player is very small, has a 1 inch color LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis.

* [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.

* [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400
:The MP-400 is a flsh-player with either 512/1024MB storage. It supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and MPEG-4 video.

* [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] iBeat fresh, iBeat organix, iBeat cube, iBeat ice, iBeat vision
:The iBeat fresh comes with 256/512 MB storage has a 64K color display and the usual features. The iBeat organix is supposed to get a firmware upgrade and comes with 256/512/1024 MB flash memory. The iBeat cube is a very small player with the usual features. The iBeat ice has a sharp OLED display. The iBeat vision has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 256MB to 2GB.

* [http://www.wigobyte.com/ Wigo's] CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.

* [http://www.xcent.co.kr Xcent's] XT100
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. It supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and has FM radio and voice recording. It also works under Linux (kernel 2.4 upwards) and FreeBSD 5.3 (recognised as a removable mass storage device).

== Harddisk Storage ==

* [http://www.airlinktek.com/ AL Tech's] MG-25, MG-35, MG350HD
:The Mediagate MG-25 is a portable HDD that supports also media playback. It uses a 2,5" disk and USB2.0 to connect, and supports MPEG-1/-2/-4, DivX, Xvid, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, JPG. It can upsample to HDTV, has composite, component and s-video outs, stereo and a digital out. Remote control is included. The MG-35 uses a 3,5" HDD instead, supports WMA and ethernet. The MG350HD uses a 3,5" HDD as well and supports HDTV.

* [http://www.boghe.com/products/audio/vip20.htm Boghe] Vip20
:The Vip20 seems to be similar to the iBeat 500 from TrekStor and Xclef HD-800. It has the same features: MP3, WMA, WAV, Ogg Vorbis decoding plus 20 GB storage.

* [http://www.commodore.net/ Commodore's] eVic
:The eVic has 20GB storage and plays WMA (incl. DRM), MP3 and Ogg Vorbis. It can record voice and music, and has USB host functionality.

* [http://www.digmind.com/ Digital Mind Corporation's] DMC 8280
:The [http://www.digmind.com/store/index_8280.html DMC 8280] has 20 GB or 30 GB storage, plays Ogg Vorbis, MP3 and WMA. Standard feature set; this player does not excel in any area but price. USB mass storage compliant -- you can put songs on it from non-Windows computers, but full indexing of the songs for reference by artist etc. requires Windows.

* [http://www.emtec-international.com/ Emtec's] Movie Cube
:The Movie Cube comes with a 2,5" HDD with 40 or 80 GB size. It supports the playback of various audio and video formats including Ogg Vorbis. The package includes some AV cables and a remote control.

* [http://www.freecom.com/ Freecom's] MediaPlayer-3, Network MediaPlayer-35 Drive-In
:The MediaPlayer-3 is again sort of an external HDD that can play media without a PC. It supports DivX, MP3, MPEG-4, AVI, WMA, ASF and Ogg Vorbis. The product with the complicated name Network MediaPlayer-35 Drive-In is an enhanced version of the MediaPlayer-3 -- it has an additional network interface and supports an internal 3,5" drive. The ethernet port can be used to read media from the network, but cannot be used as network attached storage.

* [http://www.godot.com.tw/ GoDot] M8170, M8270, M8370, M8470, M8570
:GoDot's HD players have capacity ranging from 2.2gb to 20gb. Each model is very different. They support Ogg Vorbis, MP3 and WMA (some models support DRM).

* [http://www.hama.de/portal?lid=2 Hama's] VSV-20/VSV-40
:The VSV-20/VSV-40 has the usual mobile MP3 HDD player size and can read/write from its 16in1 memory card reader and 20 GB or 40 GB internal HDD. But it can do more than audio (MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, AAC). It supports image (JPEG) and video (MPEG-1/-4) playback on the 2" display and on a connected TV. It even includes a remote control. Beware: Hama has suspended OggVorbis support. However, there is a Firmware update promised to reestablish OggVorbis. If you plan to buy a device check the [http://www.hama.de/service/download/firmware/index.hsp Firmware download page] or better [http://www.hama.de/portal/pageId*2276/action*3499 ask them] about the current status of OggVorbis support.

* [http://eng.iaudio.com/ iAudio] M3, M5, X5, A2
:The iAudio M3 is a portable harddisk player with either 20 or 40 GB of storage. It has a built-in FM radio and mic. It supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and WAV and even FLAC with the newest firmware upgrade. See this [http://gear.ign.com/articles/522/522090p1.html IGN article] for more info. The M5 has 20 GB storage and supports the same formats. The X5 is designed similar (storage sizes of 20GB, 30GB, 60GB) and can play MPEG-4 videos. It has a 1.8 inch LCD with 260,000 colors and USB OTG (On-The-Go) feature. The A2 is released in November 2005 and is a widescreen mobile video player. It has a 480 x 272 pixel screen and supports the above metioned set of audio, video and image formats.

* [http://www.ivmm.com/innoax/products_innopod.html InnoAX's] InnoPod
:This is a iPod mini clone, that supports MP3, WMA, WAV and Ogg Vorbis. It supports recording from line-in and mic, has a 4 GB harddrive and USB2.0.

* [http://www.iomega.com/ Iomega's] ScreenPlay Pro
:Iomega is finally also jumping on the bandwaggon and offers external HDDs with multimedia-playback. The larger version ScreenPlay Pro supports the usual audio and video codecs including Ogg Vorbis. It seems to be a repackaged Mvisto with HDD included [http://www.iomega-europe.com/eu/en/products/screenplay/screenplay_family_en.aspx ScreenPlay Pro].

* [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] iHP-1xx, H1xx, H2xx, H3xx, iGP-100
:iRiver has also a number of harddisk based items that play back Ogg Vorbis. Older models like the [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-100 iHP-100] and the [http://www.iriver.co.kr/product/info.asp?p_group=iHP&p_name=iHP-115 iHP-115] come in 10 and 15 GB sizes and need a firmware update (see the [http://www.iriver.com/support/download.asp support downloads] for that). The [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-120 iHP-120], a 20GB portable player, and the [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iHP-140 iHP-140], a 40GB version, support Vorbis playback out of the box. Read reviews here: [http://gear.ign.com/articles/435/435472p1.html IGN on iHP-100], [http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457818p1.html IGN on iHP-120]. The [http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iGP-100.asp iGP-100], a 1.5Gb portable player, supports Vorbis, according to the FAQ, though no firmware upgrade appears to be required. The new line of harddisk players [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=H140H110 H120, H140] come in 10 to 40 GB sizes. There is also a product line with USB host function and colour display that supports 32-500kbs: [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=H340 H320, H340].

* [http://www.jetaudio.com/products/tvix/ JetAudio's] [http://www.tvix.co.kr/eng/ Dvico's] TViX
:This is a rather unique device. JetAudio calls it a multimedia jukebox, music tank, photo album and last but not least a portable storage. It is bigger than usual portable devices, but has also a lot more options. It can connect to the PC (USB 2.0), TV (S-Video, Composite), stereos and 5.1 surround systems (Coaxial/Optical) and comes with a remote control. Supported video formats are DVD (MPEG-2), VCD (MPEG-1), DivX, Xvid. Supported Audio formats are MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis. It can display JPEG pictures on the TV. It is available without a harddrive, or equipped with harddrive sizes up to 200 GB.

* [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-M3, SSF-M5
:The SSF-M3 comes with 20/40GB storage size, whereas the SSF-M5 has only 1.5 GB. Both support voice recording and FM radio. The SSF-M3 is more stylish and very slim and comes with a docking station.

* [http://www.lge.com/ LG's] Mediagate
:This player is similar to the Modix or TViX. It is a portable USB HDD equipped with a 2,5" drive (size varies). It plays audio (MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WMA), video (MPEG-1/-2, Xvid, DivX) and images (JPEG). It has composite, s-video and component video output and supports progressive scan, audio output is done through a coaxial and stereo plug. The device is bundled with a remote control.

* [http://www.modix.co.kr/ Modix] HD-3510
:The HD-3510 is similar to the TViX, as it is sort of a portable multi-talent. It can store and playback audio, video and images, and can be used for other files as well. It can decode MPEG-1/-2/-4 including DivX/Xvid, AC3, DTS, MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and JPEG. It uses USB2.0 for data input and has various ouput connectors: anlog stereo and 5.1 out, coaxial digital out, composite, s-video and component video out with progressive scan and HDTV upscaling. The HD-3510 is bundled with a carrying bag and a remote control, but without a 3,5" HDD.

* [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye's] HT-100, HT-150
:The HT-100 uses a 1,5 GB HDD, decodes MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and supports the usual features. The HT-150 seems to have the same features (maybe a mistake on the website).

* [http://www.mpio.com/ mpio] HD300, HD200, One
:mpio HD300 is a harddisk player with 20GB and supports WAV/MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis. It has FM radio, an alarm clock and supports USB 2.0. The HD200 has 5GB storage capacity, a FM radio which can be recorded and supports the same formats as the HD300. Despite its name the One consist of three components: a player, a HDD and a CD-ROM drive, which can be combined with each other. It supports [[MP3]], [[WMA]], Ogg Vorbis, JPG, BMP and MPEG-4 movies. It has a 1" OLED display and will be available from 05/2005.

* [http://www.imp3.net/read.php?textid=1529 Muzio's] JM-600
:This player comes with either 2.2 or 4 GB harddrive and supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and ASF. It can record voice and has a FM receiver. What sets this player apart is the LCD -- it can show BMPs, JPGs and text. The device can also act as a USB host to support digital cameras.

* [http://www.macpower.com.tw/ Macpower] Mvisto MV-U2UGS
:The Mvisto is a portable hardware enclosure for 2,5" harddrives. It has video and audio outs and decodes MPEG1/2/Divx/Xvid/JPEG/MP3/WMA/AAC/Ogg Vorbis. It comes with a remote control.

* [http://www.neurosaudio.com/ Neuros'] Neuros II
:This mobile player comes either with various harddrive sizes up to 80 GB or as 256 MB flash player. The new firmware to support Ogg Vorbis has been developed by the Xiph.org Foundation (see the [http://www.neurosaudio.com/press/news_item.aspx?itemID=80 press release]). Get the newest firmware version at Neuros' [http://www.neurosaudio.com/support/support_updates.asp support page]). The Neuros Synchronization Manager for Windows is available from the same link and now fully supports the addition of Vorbis files to the Neuros. *nix users can use Xiph.org's [http://www.xiph.org/positron/ Positron], Sean Starkey's Java [http://neurosdbm.sf.net/ Neuros Database Manipulator], or [http://www.sorune.com/ Sorune], all of which provide full Neuros database support and other features. Neuros II discontinued. Neuros III is planned but indefinite but they have a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/archives/Product%20Roadmap3-15-2005.htm roadmap].

* [http://www.nextway.co.kr/ Nextway's] D Cube NHD-150D
:This player uses a small 1,5 GB harddisk and supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis. It connects trough USB 2.0 and can broadcast music through a FM sender.

* [http://www.pontis.de/ Pontis'] MX2020
:There is now a firmware update for the MX2020 that adds Ogg Vorbis support, which is a portable player for movies, music and photos.

* [http://www.modix-hd.com/ Rapsody's] RSH-100
:It is similar to the Modix HD-3510, but supports USB host functionality additionally. This web site is dead. The Savit Micro Rapsody [http://www.savitmicro.co.kr/eng/product/tv/tv_rapsody.htm RSH-100] can be seen on their site.

* [http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/rioaudio/ Rio's] Karma
:The Rio [http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/item.asp?model=261 Karma] is a portable player with a harddisk of 20 GB. It can decode MP3, Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 is used to connect to PCs, but a docking station is also included which offers ethernet and RCA line-out support. IGN has written a [http://gear.ign.com/articles/458/458401p1.html review] about the gadget, articles about the Karma can be found at [http://www.riovolution.com Riovolution]. Note that firmware versions prior to 1.25 cause stability problems for some people, visit the [http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/support/rio/product.asp?prodID=113 support page] to get the newest version. The Karma was discontinued in March 2005, Rio (DNNA) effectively dissolved 27-July-2005 assets sold to [http://www.sigmatel.com/ SigmaTel].

* [http://www.safa.com.hk/index_110R.html Safa] HMP-110R
:A portable player with 1.5GB memory, FM-receiver, recording function, upgradeable firmware, etc.

* [http://www.samsung.com Samsung] YH-J70
:A portable Multimedia Jukebox as seen on their [http://www.samsung.com/common/microsite/exhibition/cebit2005/base.asp?pcode=IT01 Cebit 2005 Microsite]. Comes with 20/30GB disk, colour display, video player and USB host function

* [http://www.sitecom.com/ Sitecom's] MP-330, MP-010
:The MP-330 player uses a 4,4 GB harddrive, USB 2.0 and supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis (mentioned in the manual). The MP-010 is a portable media player. As such it supports music, movies and pictures. This includes MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, MPEG-1/-2/-4. It has a capacity of 40GB, comes with a remote control and has various ports for the TV.

* [http://www.teac.de/ TEAC] MP-1000, MP-2000
:TEAC MP-1000 is an ultra-compact harddrive player with 1.5GB capacity and only 70g mass. The follow-up model MP-2000 has 5 GB storage and supports the same formats (MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis).

* [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] iBeat 500, iBeat 300
:The iBeat 500 is a portable harddisk player with 20 GB of storage. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis and uses USB 2.0 to connect to PCs. It has a FM radio and an in-built mic. It seems to be available only in Germany (looks like a rebadged Xclef HD-800). The iBeat 300 uses a 1,5 GB HDD and has a color display.

* [http://www.unibrain.com/iZak Unibrain's] iZak
:This is a portable USB hard disk with 40/80/100 GB of storage. It plays a wide range of video formats, including dixv/xvid/bvix/dvd iso. A good review can be found [http://www.mpeg-playcenter.com/modules/Reviews/reviews/Review_iZak.pdf here].
:The most current firmware release supports Ogg Vorbis playback according to [http://www.unibrain.com/support/iZak/iZak_FAQ.htm Unibrain's iZak FAQ].

* [http://www.xclef.com/ Xclef's] HD-800, HD-500
:This is a harddisk player with 20/40/60 GB storage size, and can decode MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and WAV. It has a FM radio and a mic for recording voice. Though not mentioned on the web site, the HD-500 is also supposed to decode Ogg Vorbis.

== CD/DVD Audio Players ==

* [http://www.ifreemax.com/ Freemax's] FW-960
:This CD-R portable supports Ogg Vorbis playback out of the box. It has 48 hours of WMA playback if an external battery pack (2 AA batteries) is used. The FreeMax FW-960 is also known as the mpman MP-CD550.

* [http://www.exonion.com/ Havin's] (link dead) Exonion HVC-400E, [http://www.princeton.co.jp/ Princeton's] Pocket Beat airCD
:The Havin HVC-400E, also known as the Princeton airCD is probably on sale in Japan since late November, 2003.

* [http://www.iriver.com/product/info.asp?p_name=iMP-550 iRiver] iMP-250, iMP-350, iMP-400, iMP-550, iMP-700(T)
:Ogg Vorbis is supported only through latest beta firmwares, still some bitrate restriction which may vary depending on the model (min=96kbps, max=160kbps). The iMP-550 supports maximum bitrate up to 256kps (still 96kbps as minimum). Also note the latest iMP-450 does not support OGG for the moment, a future upgrade may correct this... The iMP-700T with firmware 1.40 supports bitrates between 96 and 210 kbps, and .ogg files are generally not as loud as .mp3 files.

* [http://www.samsungusa.com/ Samsung's] MCD-CM600
:The MCD-CM600 is now available in Korea. It is a CD portable that can play Vorbis, MP3, and WMA.

* [http://www.roadstar.com/ Roadstar] PCD-5960WOMPT

== Portable Digital Assistants (PDAs) ==

PDAs are also cable of operating as portable music players using available software applications. Please visit [http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/VorbisSoftwarePlayers VorbisSoftwarePlayers] for more information.

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