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Would like to add the following link to "See also", but only "category:Theora" is seen under the Edit.  How to edit that template?
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== Discuss Bad or Broken Links ==
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_services
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:Go to [[Template:Theora]] and add [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_services Comparison of video services]Does this help?  I'm not sure if it's an ideal link for the section but, being a wiki, new ideas are a must.--[[User:Saoshyant|Ivo]] 06:57, 2 August 2008 (PDT)
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=== BBC Backstage Blog ===
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::You are saying the link, to a comparison of video codecs, would not make a good addition to the informational wiki?  I will hold off adding it, unless someone else thinks it is a good idea.
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DOS386 pointed out the Theora-encoded video here has no audio trackRegardless, I think this link should stay on the list. It shows the BBC getting behind free software multimedia frameworks, which is important because the BBC is a well known video content producerTechnically, the list shows Theora-encoded videos - and indeed the BBC video fulfills this requirement, even though the audio is missing.  --[[User:Matthewcraig|Matthewcraig]] 08:35, 10 March 2009 (PDT)
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:::Yeah, well.  There's something you don't understand about the XiphWiki: it doesn't have enough users to be worth asking questions or opinions here.  I'm pretty much the only person who checks what's going here frequently.
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:::The problem with adding that link to "See also", is that it would show up on EVERY single Theora-related page, which is not ideal since it's an external link and it's only useful for those who want to host videos.  Which would be the people looking on this article, but not on the other articlesI suggest just putting the link somewhere in this article.--[[User:Saoshyant|Ivo]] 10:06, 3 September 2008 (PDT)
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== Discussion around the link to the Wikipedia Comparison of Video Services page ==
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::::Thank you for your thoughts.  I have put a description under the Video Sharing header, but the verbiage might be a bit strainedFeel free to modify, or even delete, as you feel necessary. --[[User:Matthewcraig|Matthew Craig]] 08:24, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
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Deleting that whole long discussion because it seems resolved at this point.  --[[User:Matthewcraig|Matthewcraig]] 08:35, 10 March 2009 (PDT)
== List Categorization ==
== List Categorization ==
The list is categorized in a non-alphabetical order for two reasons.  First, the purpose of the list is illustrating the use of Theora, so the more interesting and note-worthy usages of the technology are given a higher location in the list, while at the same time keeping the order of the categories sensible.  This means the serial videos are kept with the sharing services, the short films are kept with the other short films, and the Linux videos are kept with other technical videos.  Secondly, there is a misconception in Internet discussions that Theora is only used by Linux users, so there has been an attempt made on this wiki page to de-emphasize the Linux videos by moving them further down the page.  Certainly, we want to list any Linux videos, especially the interesting use of Theora to produce Linux related episodic content.  In conclusion, if you are interesting in editing the list categorization order, then please post your ideas here, so they can be discussed first.  The order may seem arbitrary, but there is a method, and there may be better orders - so you are encourage to post and promote your ideas here on the discussion page.  --[[User:Matthewcraig|Matthew Craig]] 14:18, 7 November 2008 (EST)
The list is categorized in a non-alphabetical order for two reasons.  First, the purpose of the list is illustrating the use of Theora, so the more interesting and note-worthy usages of the technology are given a higher location in the list, while at the same time keeping the order of the categories sensible.  This means the serial videos are kept with the sharing services, the short films are kept with the other short films, and the Linux videos are kept with other technical videos.  Secondly, there is a misconception in Internet discussions that Theora is only used by Linux users, so there has been an attempt made on this wiki page to de-emphasize the Linux videos by moving them further down the page.  Certainly, we want to list any Linux videos, especially the interesting use of Theora to produce Linux related episodic content.  In conclusion, if you are interesting in editing the list categorization order, then please post your ideas here, so they can be discussed first.  The order may seem arbitrary, but there is a method, and there may be better orders - so you are encourage to post and promote your ideas here on the discussion page.  --[[User:Matthewcraig|Matthew Craig]] 14:18, 7 November 2008 (EST)
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> Would like to add the following link
 
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_services
 
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> You are saying the link, to a comparison of video codecs
 
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The Wikipedia article sucks, edited the link. Anyone wants to rewrite it, focusing on '''hosting''' of free media as-is, without auto damaging it into flash ?
 
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> First, the purpose of the list is illustrating the use of Theora,
 
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> so the more interesting and note-worthy usages of the technology
 
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[[User:DOS386|DOS386]] 18:37, 8 November 2008 (PST)
 
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: Response -- >The Wikipedia article sucks, edited the link. Anyone wants to rewrite it, focusing on hosting of free media as-is, without auto damaging it into flash ?
 
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: Okay, thanks for your insights here.  I am not married to the idea of having that wiki link, but I do think it is useful to know what video sharing services will allow ''Theora'' encoded uploads.  To be sure, the wiki link shows much more information than necessary to get this across, plus it is not a well-maintained wiki page.  I suppose this is an open issue until there is a more concise repository of this video sharing information available.  --[[User:Matthewcraig|Matthew Craig]] 07:32, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 

Revision as of 15:35, 10 March 2009

Contents

Discuss Bad or Broken Links

BBC Backstage Blog

DOS386 pointed out the Theora-encoded video here has no audio track. Regardless, I think this link should stay on the list. It shows the BBC getting behind free software multimedia frameworks, which is important because the BBC is a well known video content producer. Technically, the list shows Theora-encoded videos - and indeed the BBC video fulfills this requirement, even though the audio is missing. --Matthewcraig 08:35, 10 March 2009 (PDT)

Discussion around the link to the Wikipedia Comparison of Video Services page

Deleting that whole long discussion because it seems resolved at this point. --Matthewcraig 08:35, 10 March 2009 (PDT)

List Categorization

The list is categorized in a non-alphabetical order for two reasons. First, the purpose of the list is illustrating the use of Theora, so the more interesting and note-worthy usages of the technology are given a higher location in the list, while at the same time keeping the order of the categories sensible. This means the serial videos are kept with the sharing services, the short films are kept with the other short films, and the Linux videos are kept with other technical videos. Secondly, there is a misconception in Internet discussions that Theora is only used by Linux users, so there has been an attempt made on this wiki page to de-emphasize the Linux videos by moving them further down the page. Certainly, we want to list any Linux videos, especially the interesting use of Theora to produce Linux related episodic content. In conclusion, if you are interesting in editing the list categorization order, then please post your ideas here, so they can be discussed first. The order may seem arbitrary, but there is a method, and there may be better orders - so you are encourage to post and promote your ideas here on the discussion page. --Matthew Craig 14:18, 7 November 2008 (EST)

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