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<hr />
<div>This is a list of hardware of all categories, from chipsets to ready-to-use products, that support Ogg [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
Hardware support status for Ogg Vorbis is relatively good, you can choose between a huge number of mobile flash players, many HDD based players and a respectable number of Hi-Fi components. More than 50 different companies offer a total of more than a hundred products for virtually every application, there is even a knife that can play Ogg Vorbis now ;-). If you can't find a suitable player come back next week -- new products are added on a weekly basis, as many companies are working to support Vorbis on their hardware.<br />
<br />
If you know of any hardware or projects that are not yet mentioned here, please add them to the list.<br />
<br />
== Consumer products ==<br />
<br />
The following music players support Ogg Vorbis either out of the box or after a firmware upgrade:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers|Portable players (mobile players)]]:<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
* [[StaticPlayers|Static players (installed players)]]:<br />
:[[StaticPlayers#Hi-Fi_components|Hi-Fi components]]<br />
:[[StaticPlayers#Car_Audio|Car Audio]]<br />
:[[StaticPlayers#Media_Storage|Media Storage]]<br />
<br />
For hardware that is able to run third-party software (such as PDAs and video game consoles), please visit [[VorbisSoftwarePlayers]].<br />
<br />
== Non-consumer products ==<br />
<br />
This is Vorbis in Silicon, meaning chips from which actual consumer products can be built.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.finearch.com/english FineArch]: FineArch, Inc. developed a hardware core and control software for decoding Vorbis. This technology can be integrated into portable players or cell phones, and since it runs at only 12MHz, it uses very little battery power. It supports files up to 64Kb/s, but could be scaled to 16MHz and 128Kb/s, at the expense of battery life. For more information, see FineArch&#x2019;s [http://www.finearch.com/english/news/pr_20030715/pr_20030715.htm press release].<br />
<br />
;[http://www.mcslogic.com/ MCS Logic]: MCS Logic creates single chip decoders that can play Ogg Vorbis. They supply the Vorbis decoding chips for Havin and Freemax.<br />
<br />
;[http://oggbox.nathandumont.com/ OggBox]: An open hardware project aiming for a small sized Ogg Vorbis hardware platform (based on ARM Cortex M3 and VS1053b/VS8053 DSP).<br />
<br />
;[http://oggonachip.sourceforge.net/ Ogg On A Chip]: A hardware/software implementation with a good report showing how to make FPGAs and the like to decode Vorbis streams.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.sigmatel.com/ SigmaTel]: SigmaTel makes several chips which support Ogg Vorbis decoding. After this quote years ago, we knew it was only a matter of time:<br />
<blockquote>"<i>I talked to Deborah Clark, product marketing engineer for audio chipmaker Sigmatel out of Austin, Tex. She is the company's expert in audio decoders. She says there is a growing base of support for Ogg Vorbis. "We can't keep paying these high licensing fees for this. Manufacturers would flock to something that's free." </i></blockquote><br />
:from a 2000 [http://www.forbes.com/2000/09/18/dvorak_index.html column in Forbes]<br />
<br />
:Some STMP3500-based devices supports Ogg Vorbis, but there are no notes about this on SigmaTel-website.<br />
<br />
:SigmaTel introduces the STMP3600 with support for Ogg Vorbis, MP3, AAC, WMA and more.[http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2005-10/artikel-5493211.asp]<br />
<br />
;[http://www.tamulsite.co.kr Tamul Multimedia]: Tamul Multimedia manufactures decoding chips for Samsung. They claim they have Ogg Vorbis decoding firmware, according to [http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003031002011367704002 <em>The Digital Times</em>] (Korean).<br />
<br />
;[http://www.telechips.com Telechips]: Telechips has developed the TCC72x, a single chip decoder that can play Vorbis. The TCC72x series is based on on an ARM940T core, and it is used widely in Korea for players such as Iops or MobiBlu.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.vlsi.fi/ VLSI Solution Oy]: VLSI provides two Ogg Vorbis capable chips.<br />
<br />
:[http://www.vlsi.fi/en/products/vs1000.shtml VS1000] is an Ogg Vorbis decoder and controller chip based on a 16-bit DSP.<br />
<br />
:[http://www.vlsi.fi/en/products/vs1053.shtml VS1053] is a low-power "MP3 decoder" chip based on the same DSP. What makes the IC unique is that it can both decode and [http://www.vlsi.fi/en/support/software/vs10xxapplications.html encode] Ogg Vorbis files. There are several different quality settings to choose from varying from narrowband speech to high-quality stereo music.<br />
<br />
== See also ==<br />
* [[Theora Hardware]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Vorbis]]</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=Vorbis_Hardware&diff=13590Vorbis Hardware2012-09-02T08:09:30Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Non-consumer products */ list products alphabetically</p>
<hr />
<div>This is a list of hardware of all categories, from chipsets to ready-to-use products, that support Ogg [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
Hardware support status for Ogg Vorbis is relatively good, you can choose between a huge number of mobile flash players, many HDD based players and a respectable number of Hi-Fi components. More than 50 different companies offer a total of more than a hundred products for virtually every application, there is even a knife that can play Ogg Vorbis now ;-). If you can't find a suitable player come back next week -- new products are added on a weekly basis, as many companies are working to support Vorbis on their hardware.<br />
<br />
If you know of any hardware or projects that are not yet mentioned here, please add them to the list.<br />
<br />
== Consumer products ==<br />
<br />
The following music players support Ogg Vorbis either out of the box or after a firmware upgrade:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers|Portable players (mobile players)]]:<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
* [[StaticPlayers|Static players (installed players)]]:<br />
:[[StaticPlayers#Hi-Fi_components|Hi-Fi components]]<br />
:[[StaticPlayers#Car_Audio|Car Audio]]<br />
:[[StaticPlayers#Media_Storage|Media Storage]]<br />
<br />
For hardware that is able to run third-party software (such as PDAs and video game consoles), please visit [[VorbisSoftwarePlayers]].<br />
<br />
== Non-consumer products ==<br />
<br />
This is Vorbis in Silicon, meaning chips from which actual consumer products can be built.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.finearch.com/english FineArch]: FineArch, Inc. developed a hardware core and control software for decoding Vorbis. This technology can be integrated into portable players or cell phones, and since it runs at only 12MHz, it uses very little battery power. It supports files up to 64Kb/s, but could be scaled to 16MHz and 128Kb/s, at the expense of battery life. For more information, see FineArch&#x2019;s [http://www.finearch.com/english/news/pr_20030715/pr_20030715.htm press release].<br />
<br />
;[http://www.mcslogic.com/ MCS Logic]: MCS Logic creates single chip decoders that can play Ogg Vorbis. They supply the Vorbis decoding chips for Havin and Freemax.<br />
<br />
;[http://oggonachip.sourceforge.net/ Ogg On A Chip]: A hardware/software implementation with a good report showing how to make FPGAs and the like to decode Vorbis streams.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.sigmatel.com/ SigmaTel]: SigmaTel makes several chips which support Ogg Vorbis decoding. After this quote years ago, we knew it was only a matter of time:<br />
<blockquote>"<i>I talked to Deborah Clark, product marketing engineer for audio chipmaker Sigmatel out of Austin, Tex. She is the company's expert in audio decoders. She says there is a growing base of support for Ogg Vorbis. "We can't keep paying these high licensing fees for this. Manufacturers would flock to something that's free." </i></blockquote><br />
:from a 2000 [http://www.forbes.com/2000/09/18/dvorak_index.html column in Forbes]<br />
<br />
:Some STMP3500-based devices supports Ogg Vorbis, but there are no notes about this on SigmaTel-website.<br />
<br />
:SigmaTel introduces the STMP3600 with support for Ogg Vorbis, MP3, AAC, WMA and more.[http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2005-10/artikel-5493211.asp]<br />
<br />
;[http://www.tamulsite.co.kr Tamul Multimedia]: Tamul Multimedia manufactures decoding chips for Samsung. They claim they have Ogg Vorbis decoding firmware, according to [http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003031002011367704002 <em>The Digital Times</em>] (Korean).<br />
<br />
;[http://www.telechips.com Telechips]: Telechips has developed the TCC72x, a single chip decoder that can play Vorbis. The TCC72x series is based on on an ARM940T core, and it is used widely in Korea for players such as Iops or MobiBlu.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.vlsi.fi/ VLSI Solution Oy]: VLSI provides two Ogg Vorbis capable chips.<br />
<br />
:[http://www.vlsi.fi/en/products/vs1000.shtml VS1000] is an Ogg Vorbis decoder and controller chip based on a 16-bit DSP.<br />
<br />
:[http://www.vlsi.fi/en/products/vs1053.shtml VS1053] is a low-power "MP3 decoder" chip based on the same DSP. What makes the IC unique is that it can both decode and [http://www.vlsi.fi/en/support/software/vs10xxapplications.html encode] Ogg Vorbis files. There are several different quality settings to choose from varying from narrowband speech to high-quality stereo music.<br />
<br />
== See also ==<br />
* [[Theora Hardware]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Vorbis]]</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers&diff=13580PortablePlayers2012-08-26T16:18:21Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Portable Vorbis Native Support Table */ the j3 seems not to be available any more</p>
<hr />
<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
<br />
This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
<br />
== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 45 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2012.08<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 70 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2012.08<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 120 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2012.08<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! D3<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 120g weight, BT, Wi-Fi, 3.7"<br />
| 149 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2012.08<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! i.Beat veo<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
| 3", .mkv<br />
| 60 €<br />
| yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Archos Vision 30c|Vision 30c]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Philips GoGear Muse|GoGear Muse]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 105g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
<br />
@wiki-admins: It looks like this mediawiki instance does not support nice table cell templates (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BitTorrent_clients#Operating_system_support this example]). The support for this table related features would really improve this table layout.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers&diff=13579PortablePlayers2012-08-26T16:12:17Z<p>Gsauthof: updated availability info, removed old cowon</p>
<hr />
<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
<br />
This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
<br />
== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 45 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2012.08<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 70 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2012.08<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 120 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2012.08<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! J3<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 64 h<br />
| 75g weight, BT, 3.3"<br />
| 250 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! i.Beat veo<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
| 3", .mkv<br />
| 60 €<br />
| yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Archos Vision 30c|Vision 30c]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Philips GoGear Muse|GoGear Muse]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 105g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
<br />
@wiki-admins: It looks like this mediawiki instance does not support nice table cell templates (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BitTorrent_clients#Operating_system_support this example]). The support for this table related features would really improve this table layout.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisCasts&diff=13100VorbisCasts2011-10-23T20:14:58Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Active */ +alternativlos</p>
<hr />
<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to subscribe to an audiocast (also known as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast netcast or podcast]), not to the audiocast's main homepage. We don't link directly to the feed url because they tend to move around, because the audiocasts like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these audiocasts still use.<br />
<br />
== Active ==<br />
* [http://alternativlos.org/ Alternativlos] - German audiocast about political topics, social/technical debates and conspiracy theories<br />
* [http://deimhart.net/ Deimhart] - German language audiocast about Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source which got a European Podcast Award in 2011.<br />
* [http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=_BR1WkSS3RGuRqdV1L3fcQ FLOSS Weekly] - weekly audiocast from the TWIT network about Free/Libre/Open Source Software<br />
* [http://faif.us/ Free as in Freedom] - Legal aspects of free software by the hosts of the discontinued Software Freedom Law Center audiocast<br />
* [http://www.hackerfunk.ch/ Hackerfunk] - Swiss German audiocast about hacking related topics (vintage computing, programming languages etc.)<br />
* [http://kernelpanicoggcast.net/ Kernelpanic Oggcast]<br />
* [http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ Linux Outlaws] - Weekly audiocast about releases, news (including MS and Apple watch), interviews and reviews.<br />
* [http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes Radio New Zealand National] - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_New_Zealand_National publicly-funded non-commercial radio] that provides several audiocasts of its programmes, e.g.: [http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ourchangingworld Our Changing World] (science show) and [http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/atthemovies At the Movies] (movie show)<br />
* [http://blog.radiotux.de/podcasts/ Radio Tux] - Audiocasts from the german Linux news radio<br />
* [http://ratholeradio.org/ Rathole Radio] - Free music audiocast, i.e. mainly featuring music licensed under the Creative Commons license<br />
* [http://www.sourcetrunk.com/ Sourcetrunk] - Project/task centric audiocast using Open Source and free software.<br />
* [http://tllts.org/rsspage.php The Linux Link Tech Show]<br />
* [http://www.tuxradar.com/podcast TuxRadar] - Weekly audiocast about Linux related news, releases and opinionated discussions.<br />
<br />
== Directories ==<br />
<br />
* [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Podcasts Ubuntu Podcasts] - List of Linux/Ubuntu related audiocasts including ogg vorbis feeds<br />
* [http://oggcastplanet.org/members.html Oggcast Planet] - List of Ogg Vorbis only audiocasts<br />
<br />
== Finished ==<br />
Audiocasts that are still available but do not produce new episodes.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.scienceschool.usyd.edu.au/ISS2007/index.php?page=podcasts ISS2007 ecoscience] - lecture audiocast of the 34th International Science School ecoscience, 2007, University of Sydney, Australia. Target audience is high-school students.<br />
* [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/rss/ NerdTV] - Interview audiocast with famous guests from computer/internet history (e.g. the 'inventor of TCP'). Sponsored bei PBS. Until 2006-04.<br />
* [http://www.softwarefreedom.org/feeds/ Oggcast] - Bi-weekly audiocast from the Software Freedom Law Center, New York. Until 2011-08.<br />
* [http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices Open Voices] - Interview audiocast by the Linux Foundation, featuring interviews with guests like Linus Torvalds, open source people from Mozilla etc.<br />
* [http://jamespurser.com.au/blog/almost-six-years-ago-i-started-linux-australia-update Linux Australia Update]. Until 2006.<br />
* [http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator:%22chess%20griffin%22&usort=date Linux Reality Podcast]. [http://www.linuxreality.com/ Until 2008-03.]<br />
* [http://www.lugradio.org/ LugRadio] - Until 2008.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=Talk:PortablePlayers&diff=13072Talk:PortablePlayers2011-09-30T17:18:19Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Sumvision M18/S1 */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Discontinued players ==<br />
I think that discontinued players should be moved into a different section. Not necessarily removed, as many are still available on clearance/refurbished/used.<br />
<br />
The question is, how to make the split? I see three possibilities:<br />
# Discontinued players on a separate page<br />
# same page, but separate top-level section. e.g.:<br />
#* Current devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
#* Discontinued devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
# make a subsection within each section. e.g.:<br />
#* Flash-memory devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* HD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* CD/DVD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
<br />
I'll hold off any updates right now, but I'll check back in a few days/weeks/whenever and see if there's any opinions here. If there's no disagreement by then, and noone has beat me to it, I'll take the initiative. [[User:Bsammon|Bsammon]] 03:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Having sections for discontinued devices (on each subpage) is fine - but I suggest to avoid explicit ''Current devices'' sections. With a ''discontinued devices'' section on a page it is immediately clear that everything listed before is current.--[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:09, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== List of top five players ==<br />
It would be a good idea to have a few (five?) players at the top with images that are considered to be the best *recent* devices. I don't think any of the MP3 using masses will use this page to choose their next music player unless it lists recent devices, and presents a choice of five or six at the top, with images, and links to sites that they can buy them from. Also, could someone put up a notice to remind people it's not OGG, or Ogg! It's Ogg Vorbis, or if you must, Vorbis. - thehumanerror 25th December 2006<br />
<br />
I totally agree with the above. This page was next to useless for me when I was shopping for a Vorbis player since I was overwhelmed with choices. Add to that the fact that many products have been discontinued or cannot be bought new and there's a recipe for disaster. - erpo41 October 17th, 2007<br />
<br />
I also agree with the above; the primary reason I am not using Ogg Vorbis (I keep a parallel collection of mp3 and flac files) is I cannot easily find a portable player. I don't know that reorganizing this wiki page will help. I did comb through this page; basically all of the listed hard disk players are from one off manufacturers or not being manufactured any more. There are plenty of nice flash storage based devices and cell phones (from Samsung and others), but that is not what I am looking for. Also, I'm not interested in hacking my iPod. (I do embedded linux development enough at work; I'll pay someone else to get my media player working). Until this is addressed, Ogg Vorbis is going to remain out of use; which is a shame because for every other reason it is the best (in my opinion). --Kevin Holzer, January 10, 2009<br />
<br />
:Yes. This is a good idea. Create a section at the top. Polish it well. And perhaps add a free-licensed photo. Anyone up for it?--[[User:Saoshyant|Ivo]] 06:41, 17 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
I would rather see just a simple feature matrix (sorted so that unavailable devices are listed at the bottom, or just not listed at all). See talk below. Maybe preferred choises could be raised to the top thought! I agree that current list is quite unusable.<br />
<br />
:As of now, the page contains a feature matrix, which only lists current and available devices. Thus, when you check this page out for buying advice it should be more useful now, i.e. it has no overwhelming effect anymore. I consider the raised issues as '''done'''. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:04, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Recording in Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
I would like to know which Players can '''record''' in Vorbis?! -- [[User:217.186.150.213|217.186.150.213]] 17:03, 26 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Ditto. Absolutely vital information. Do any of the players listed also record in Vorbis? If anyone has experience with A player, please state specifically whether it does or does not record in Vorbis.[[User:Nickhill|Nickhill]] 15:04, 4 June 2006 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::Never heard of one that does, and there isn't a fixed point reference encoder, which makes it unlikely.<br />
<br />
== Pretec Allegro may need firmware update ==<br />
<br />
I recently purchased a Pretec Allegro, but was unable to play Oggs for three months, until the firmware update was made available on 14 or 15 March 2005. Now it works well! (So far, listening to -q3 Oggs). I'd hope that units purchased after this date already has the firmware update, but you never know. Installing the update is as simple as placing the .rom on the USB-storage-device media (eg flash disk), starting up the unit, and pressing the play button. -- Hugo van der Merwe<br />
: How much battery runtime do you get playing Oggs compared with playing mp3? [[User:Phr|Phr]] 02:05, 27 Aug 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Any player with Removable Memory Cards ==<br />
<br />
The NexBlack (see [[PortablePlayers]] ) has removable compact flash and batteries.<br />
<br />
Every single Vorbis-capable portable player out there seems to come with built-in flash memory. Which is stupid, because I don't want to fire up my computer and plug in the player every time I get tired of the tracks on my player. Plus flash memory has a limited lifetime (write cycles) and so does your player with built-in memory. The same applies for built-in rechargable batteries. <br />
<br />
Now when would you ever need to buy your second device without any moving parts if you could just change flash memory and batteries? Ok, that's the industrie's point of view but not mine. I want to go on vacation with music and batteries for one week of non-stop music - without a power source or computer nearby.<br />
<br />
So, any hint to where I might find a portable audio player that can play back ogg vorbis files and uses SD flash cards (and preferably AAA-batteries) would be greatly appreciated.<br />
* Me too! If the [http://enox.co.kr/2004/eng/product/product_830_01.asp Enox EMX-830] took SD cards it'd be perfect. --[[User:Rgm|rgm]] 14:41, 7 Nov 2005 (PST)<br />
<br />
* SanDisk Sansa e250/e260/e270/e280 has a microSD-card slot. With ROCKbox it plays Ogg/Vorbis and more.[[User:Nostromo|Nostromo]] 15:26, 29 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
The Pretec Allegro is not the slickest player out there, it's LCD backlight seems to give off a high-pitched whine, which not everyone can hear (it kind-of screams in my ears though, so I put the backlight timer on 1 second so it doesn't scream too long). It is, however, the only one I now know of that can play Oggs, and uses removable media. If you want a nicely portable device, you have to use Pretec's "iDisk tiny" usb flash disk, the only thing that will fit inside. You can also, however, connect some USB SD-card reader with it's cable, then listen to Oggs off of SD. A little unwieldy, but, it works, and is the only thing *I* know of. (I stopped following developments in December though, when I bought it...)<br />
<br />
== Samsung / Yepp ==<br />
<br />
Moved to [[Talk:PortablePlayersSamsungYepp]]<br />
<br />
== UniBrain iZak ==<br />
<br />
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this; I'm new to wikis.<br />
<br />
The UniBrain iZak was added, then removed recently, with the comment that it doesn't claim to play Ogg Vorbis.<br />
<br />
The FAQ is available here: [http://www.unibrain.com/support/FAQ_iZak.htm iZak FAQ] and Question/Answer 24 says:<br />
<br />
'22. Can iZak™ support OGG audio files?<br />
<br />
Yes, iZak™ fully supports OGG playback using the latest firmware.'<br />
<br />
:I was the one that removed it. In their specs linked from the main page, I saw that they listed only MP3 and WMA support for music formats. Obviously they need to update their promotional material! I went ahead and added the iZak back in, making a point to mention that the most current version of the firmware now supports Ogg Vorbis and linking to their FAQ as evidence. [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 02:36, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Splendid. I didn't want to just stick it back after it had been taken out.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 05:14, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Entempo Spirit ==<br />
<br />
This inexpensive player from Entempo had listed Vorbis as a "Supported Audio Format", but the device will not index the Vorbis files into it's menus -- let alone play the files. Tested with both the stock and most recent firmware, May 29, 2005. Vendor had been contacted and removed Vorbis support claims from their website, but has not provided any resolution to customers which purchased the product expecting this support. The company's webpage has disappeared as of Feb 2006.<br />
<br />
== Lexar LDP-800 dropped ==<br />
It seems that Lexar have abondoned the LDP-800. The following was posted by a user on [http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.1055 dapreview.net]<br />
" Unfortunately, lexar will not offer the LDP-800, but will focus instead<br />
on its existing LDP Players that already offer appealing features and<br />
benefits to meet a variety of consumer needs."<br />
Shame.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 06:15, 22 Jul 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
There's more info on that dapreview thread that indicates some confusion within Lexar. Currently, it looks like the release is going to happen in early September.<br />
<br />
Update 2005-11-11: after inquiries to Lexar's "new products" personnel, I received a telephone message that the LDP-800 will definitely "is not going to see the light of day." Ask me if you want details. I agree that it's a shame since this looked to be an outstanding product. --[[User:dfavro|dfavro]]<br />
<br />
== Hong Kong Dream-tech Electronic DT-202, works? please confirm ==<br />
http://hkdream-tech.com<br />
An ebay seller says that it can reproduce Vorbis. This is unconfirmed. In the manufacturer web it says: MP3, WMA, WAV, DMV and etc. <br />
<br />
Some webpage also says that it works on Windows, Mac and Linux. Also unconfirmed.<br />
Further investigation required.<br />
<br />
== Trekstor i.Beat Cube ==<br />
This player seems to be very similar to the Samsung Yepp YP-T6, possibly with the [[#Yepp_MT-6X|same problems]] regarding Vorbis playback. Trekstor has moved [http://www.trekstor.de/en/produkte/mp3-player/ibeat-cube.html info about this player] from "MP3-Player" to the "Archive" section which propably means that it is not produced anymore.<br />
<br />
== The Muzio jm300 / jm-300 does NOT play Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
NB this is the jm-300 (not 100 or 200)<br />
<br />
I bought this a month ago. I've been unable to play Vorbis files on<br />
it. It simply shows these as 'etc' files and skips over them.<br />
<br />
Pitty really, this was the main reason I chose this player.<br />
<br />
I've seen lots of discussion about the muzio playing oggs, is there<br />
anybody there who owns a jm300 and is actually playing oggs ? I can't<br />
help think I've juts missed something basic.<br />
<br />
== Layout of the PortablePlayers list and Feature matrix ==<br />
It's gone! I've moved this discussion to [[Talk:PortablePlayersv2]]. [[User:Imalone|Imalone]] 10:55, 18 November 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Is there something very wrong with those proposals? I mean, is there any reason why (even a simple) feature matrix just could not be applied right now? It would probably solve 'list of top 5 players' problem above too. Just list something basic from the main features, name, size, weight, price, battery (internal, aa, aaa, ..), capasity, flash card type (sd, microsd, ..) , availability (current or discontinued), supported formats, charging (usb or propietary or none). Link to the longer comments. No complicated sorting or anything too fancy. No icons. Name can be a abbreviation to save space, use it as a link to current comments.<br />
<br />
::As of now I consider this as '''done'''. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:14, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== NEXBlack out ==<br />
<br />
I got my NEXBlack player today from Frontier Labs. It is a nice gadget with sleek design. They have corrected the occasional snap-sounds that came between tracks and it is overall more usable now. Vorbis-files also play fine, but the current firmware doesn't have Vorbis-tag reader, which is somewhat major drawback. The music selection works through mp3-tags and you can select by album, artist, genre and playlist, but since Vorbis tags won't work you have to select "unordered" to play them. Vorbis-files are all listed in one big list. I hope they either implement a Vorbis-tag reader or revert to old Nex IIe system where you could select by folder in the flash disc. But for the cheap price ($89), it is a good player... waiting for a new firmware..<br />
<br />
== Sumvision M18/S1 ==<br />
<br />
I've just got the 2GB Sumvision and it plays the OGG files I've tested so far. Should I add it to the list? [[User:Steevc|Steevc]] 04:05, 19 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
:Yes, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold just do it :)]. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:18, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Humble A2 Review ==<br />
<br />
Just a blog link [http://www.personal.psu.edu/gsc127/blogs/2007/10/happiness-with-cowon-a2.html to my review of the the Cowon A2]. Thanks, [[User:GChriss|GChriss]] 13:23, 6 November 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
== iRiver e100 ==<br />
<br />
[http://reviews.cnet.com/4566-6490_7-0.html?filter=1000036_5260177_ CNet] and [http://www.amazon.com/iRiver-E100-Multimedia-Player-White/dp/B00171UYYS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1208253617&sr=8-5 Amazon] are saying the iRiver e100 supports Vorbis. I haven't tested it myself. [[User:Mattflaschen|Mattflaschen]] 03:09, 15 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Bought an vorbis-enabled player recently? Tell us where! ==<br />
<br />
I have started a page that should allow people easier purchasing of vorbis-enabled players: [[PortablePlayers_per_Place]]<br />
<br />
Everyone, who bought an vorbis-enabled player recently should update the page with place and model.<br />
<br />
== Move Flash/HD-sections to dedicated pages ==<br />
<br />
Hi,<br />
<br />
IMHO the PortablePlayers page is too long. I want to split it into several pages for each main section. Like [[PortablePlayers/Flash]], [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk]] etc.. Sure, one have to fix some links then, but I am convinced this step would increase the usability a lot.<br />
What do you think about that? --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 01:20, 31 March 2009 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Since there were no objections I restructured the page as planned. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=Talk:PortablePlayers&diff=13071Talk:PortablePlayers2011-09-30T17:14:48Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Layout of the PortablePlayers list and Feature matrix */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Discontinued players ==<br />
I think that discontinued players should be moved into a different section. Not necessarily removed, as many are still available on clearance/refurbished/used.<br />
<br />
The question is, how to make the split? I see three possibilities:<br />
# Discontinued players on a separate page<br />
# same page, but separate top-level section. e.g.:<br />
#* Current devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
#* Discontinued devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
# make a subsection within each section. e.g.:<br />
#* Flash-memory devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* HD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* CD/DVD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
<br />
I'll hold off any updates right now, but I'll check back in a few days/weeks/whenever and see if there's any opinions here. If there's no disagreement by then, and noone has beat me to it, I'll take the initiative. [[User:Bsammon|Bsammon]] 03:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Having sections for discontinued devices (on each subpage) is fine - but I suggest to avoid explicit ''Current devices'' sections. With a ''discontinued devices'' section on a page it is immediately clear that everything listed before is current.--[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:09, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== List of top five players ==<br />
It would be a good idea to have a few (five?) players at the top with images that are considered to be the best *recent* devices. I don't think any of the MP3 using masses will use this page to choose their next music player unless it lists recent devices, and presents a choice of five or six at the top, with images, and links to sites that they can buy them from. Also, could someone put up a notice to remind people it's not OGG, or Ogg! It's Ogg Vorbis, or if you must, Vorbis. - thehumanerror 25th December 2006<br />
<br />
I totally agree with the above. This page was next to useless for me when I was shopping for a Vorbis player since I was overwhelmed with choices. Add to that the fact that many products have been discontinued or cannot be bought new and there's a recipe for disaster. - erpo41 October 17th, 2007<br />
<br />
I also agree with the above; the primary reason I am not using Ogg Vorbis (I keep a parallel collection of mp3 and flac files) is I cannot easily find a portable player. I don't know that reorganizing this wiki page will help. I did comb through this page; basically all of the listed hard disk players are from one off manufacturers or not being manufactured any more. There are plenty of nice flash storage based devices and cell phones (from Samsung and others), but that is not what I am looking for. Also, I'm not interested in hacking my iPod. (I do embedded linux development enough at work; I'll pay someone else to get my media player working). Until this is addressed, Ogg Vorbis is going to remain out of use; which is a shame because for every other reason it is the best (in my opinion). --Kevin Holzer, January 10, 2009<br />
<br />
:Yes. This is a good idea. Create a section at the top. Polish it well. And perhaps add a free-licensed photo. Anyone up for it?--[[User:Saoshyant|Ivo]] 06:41, 17 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
I would rather see just a simple feature matrix (sorted so that unavailable devices are listed at the bottom, or just not listed at all). See talk below. Maybe preferred choises could be raised to the top thought! I agree that current list is quite unusable.<br />
<br />
:As of now, the page contains a feature matrix, which only lists current and available devices. Thus, when you check this page out for buying advice it should be more useful now, i.e. it has no overwhelming effect anymore. I consider the raised issues as '''done'''. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:04, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Recording in Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
I would like to know which Players can '''record''' in Vorbis?! -- [[User:217.186.150.213|217.186.150.213]] 17:03, 26 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Ditto. Absolutely vital information. Do any of the players listed also record in Vorbis? If anyone has experience with A player, please state specifically whether it does or does not record in Vorbis.[[User:Nickhill|Nickhill]] 15:04, 4 June 2006 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::Never heard of one that does, and there isn't a fixed point reference encoder, which makes it unlikely.<br />
<br />
== Pretec Allegro may need firmware update ==<br />
<br />
I recently purchased a Pretec Allegro, but was unable to play Oggs for three months, until the firmware update was made available on 14 or 15 March 2005. Now it works well! (So far, listening to -q3 Oggs). I'd hope that units purchased after this date already has the firmware update, but you never know. Installing the update is as simple as placing the .rom on the USB-storage-device media (eg flash disk), starting up the unit, and pressing the play button. -- Hugo van der Merwe<br />
: How much battery runtime do you get playing Oggs compared with playing mp3? [[User:Phr|Phr]] 02:05, 27 Aug 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Any player with Removable Memory Cards ==<br />
<br />
The NexBlack (see [[PortablePlayers]] ) has removable compact flash and batteries.<br />
<br />
Every single Vorbis-capable portable player out there seems to come with built-in flash memory. Which is stupid, because I don't want to fire up my computer and plug in the player every time I get tired of the tracks on my player. Plus flash memory has a limited lifetime (write cycles) and so does your player with built-in memory. The same applies for built-in rechargable batteries. <br />
<br />
Now when would you ever need to buy your second device without any moving parts if you could just change flash memory and batteries? Ok, that's the industrie's point of view but not mine. I want to go on vacation with music and batteries for one week of non-stop music - without a power source or computer nearby.<br />
<br />
So, any hint to where I might find a portable audio player that can play back ogg vorbis files and uses SD flash cards (and preferably AAA-batteries) would be greatly appreciated.<br />
* Me too! If the [http://enox.co.kr/2004/eng/product/product_830_01.asp Enox EMX-830] took SD cards it'd be perfect. --[[User:Rgm|rgm]] 14:41, 7 Nov 2005 (PST)<br />
<br />
* SanDisk Sansa e250/e260/e270/e280 has a microSD-card slot. With ROCKbox it plays Ogg/Vorbis and more.[[User:Nostromo|Nostromo]] 15:26, 29 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
The Pretec Allegro is not the slickest player out there, it's LCD backlight seems to give off a high-pitched whine, which not everyone can hear (it kind-of screams in my ears though, so I put the backlight timer on 1 second so it doesn't scream too long). It is, however, the only one I now know of that can play Oggs, and uses removable media. If you want a nicely portable device, you have to use Pretec's "iDisk tiny" usb flash disk, the only thing that will fit inside. You can also, however, connect some USB SD-card reader with it's cable, then listen to Oggs off of SD. A little unwieldy, but, it works, and is the only thing *I* know of. (I stopped following developments in December though, when I bought it...)<br />
<br />
== Samsung / Yepp ==<br />
<br />
Moved to [[Talk:PortablePlayersSamsungYepp]]<br />
<br />
== UniBrain iZak ==<br />
<br />
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this; I'm new to wikis.<br />
<br />
The UniBrain iZak was added, then removed recently, with the comment that it doesn't claim to play Ogg Vorbis.<br />
<br />
The FAQ is available here: [http://www.unibrain.com/support/FAQ_iZak.htm iZak FAQ] and Question/Answer 24 says:<br />
<br />
'22. Can iZak™ support OGG audio files?<br />
<br />
Yes, iZak™ fully supports OGG playback using the latest firmware.'<br />
<br />
:I was the one that removed it. In their specs linked from the main page, I saw that they listed only MP3 and WMA support for music formats. Obviously they need to update their promotional material! I went ahead and added the iZak back in, making a point to mention that the most current version of the firmware now supports Ogg Vorbis and linking to their FAQ as evidence. [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 02:36, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Splendid. I didn't want to just stick it back after it had been taken out.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 05:14, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Entempo Spirit ==<br />
<br />
This inexpensive player from Entempo had listed Vorbis as a "Supported Audio Format", but the device will not index the Vorbis files into it's menus -- let alone play the files. Tested with both the stock and most recent firmware, May 29, 2005. Vendor had been contacted and removed Vorbis support claims from their website, but has not provided any resolution to customers which purchased the product expecting this support. The company's webpage has disappeared as of Feb 2006.<br />
<br />
== Lexar LDP-800 dropped ==<br />
It seems that Lexar have abondoned the LDP-800. The following was posted by a user on [http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.1055 dapreview.net]<br />
" Unfortunately, lexar will not offer the LDP-800, but will focus instead<br />
on its existing LDP Players that already offer appealing features and<br />
benefits to meet a variety of consumer needs."<br />
Shame.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 06:15, 22 Jul 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
There's more info on that dapreview thread that indicates some confusion within Lexar. Currently, it looks like the release is going to happen in early September.<br />
<br />
Update 2005-11-11: after inquiries to Lexar's "new products" personnel, I received a telephone message that the LDP-800 will definitely "is not going to see the light of day." Ask me if you want details. I agree that it's a shame since this looked to be an outstanding product. --[[User:dfavro|dfavro]]<br />
<br />
== Hong Kong Dream-tech Electronic DT-202, works? please confirm ==<br />
http://hkdream-tech.com<br />
An ebay seller says that it can reproduce Vorbis. This is unconfirmed. In the manufacturer web it says: MP3, WMA, WAV, DMV and etc. <br />
<br />
Some webpage also says that it works on Windows, Mac and Linux. Also unconfirmed.<br />
Further investigation required.<br />
<br />
== Trekstor i.Beat Cube ==<br />
This player seems to be very similar to the Samsung Yepp YP-T6, possibly with the [[#Yepp_MT-6X|same problems]] regarding Vorbis playback. Trekstor has moved [http://www.trekstor.de/en/produkte/mp3-player/ibeat-cube.html info about this player] from "MP3-Player" to the "Archive" section which propably means that it is not produced anymore.<br />
<br />
== The Muzio jm300 / jm-300 does NOT play Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
NB this is the jm-300 (not 100 or 200)<br />
<br />
I bought this a month ago. I've been unable to play Vorbis files on<br />
it. It simply shows these as 'etc' files and skips over them.<br />
<br />
Pitty really, this was the main reason I chose this player.<br />
<br />
I've seen lots of discussion about the muzio playing oggs, is there<br />
anybody there who owns a jm300 and is actually playing oggs ? I can't<br />
help think I've juts missed something basic.<br />
<br />
== Layout of the PortablePlayers list and Feature matrix ==<br />
It's gone! I've moved this discussion to [[Talk:PortablePlayersv2]]. [[User:Imalone|Imalone]] 10:55, 18 November 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Is there something very wrong with those proposals? I mean, is there any reason why (even a simple) feature matrix just could not be applied right now? It would probably solve 'list of top 5 players' problem above too. Just list something basic from the main features, name, size, weight, price, battery (internal, aa, aaa, ..), capasity, flash card type (sd, microsd, ..) , availability (current or discontinued), supported formats, charging (usb or propietary or none). Link to the longer comments. No complicated sorting or anything too fancy. No icons. Name can be a abbreviation to save space, use it as a link to current comments.<br />
<br />
::As of now I consider this as '''done'''. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:14, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== NEXBlack out ==<br />
<br />
I got my NEXBlack player today from Frontier Labs. It is a nice gadget with sleek design. They have corrected the occasional snap-sounds that came between tracks and it is overall more usable now. Vorbis-files also play fine, but the current firmware doesn't have Vorbis-tag reader, which is somewhat major drawback. The music selection works through mp3-tags and you can select by album, artist, genre and playlist, but since Vorbis tags won't work you have to select "unordered" to play them. Vorbis-files are all listed in one big list. I hope they either implement a Vorbis-tag reader or revert to old Nex IIe system where you could select by folder in the flash disc. But for the cheap price ($89), it is a good player... waiting for a new firmware..<br />
<br />
== Sumvision M18/S1 ==<br />
<br />
I've just got the 2GB Sumvision and it plays the OGG files I've tested so far. Should I add it to the list? [[User:Steevc|Steevc]] 04:05, 19 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Humble A2 Review ==<br />
<br />
Just a blog link [http://www.personal.psu.edu/gsc127/blogs/2007/10/happiness-with-cowon-a2.html to my review of the the Cowon A2]. Thanks, [[User:GChriss|GChriss]] 13:23, 6 November 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
== iRiver e100 ==<br />
<br />
[http://reviews.cnet.com/4566-6490_7-0.html?filter=1000036_5260177_ CNet] and [http://www.amazon.com/iRiver-E100-Multimedia-Player-White/dp/B00171UYYS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1208253617&sr=8-5 Amazon] are saying the iRiver e100 supports Vorbis. I haven't tested it myself. [[User:Mattflaschen|Mattflaschen]] 03:09, 15 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Bought an vorbis-enabled player recently? Tell us where! ==<br />
<br />
I have started a page that should allow people easier purchasing of vorbis-enabled players: [[PortablePlayers_per_Place]]<br />
<br />
Everyone, who bought an vorbis-enabled player recently should update the page with place and model.<br />
<br />
== Move Flash/HD-sections to dedicated pages ==<br />
<br />
Hi,<br />
<br />
IMHO the PortablePlayers page is too long. I want to split it into several pages for each main section. Like [[PortablePlayers/Flash]], [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk]] etc.. Sure, one have to fix some links then, but I am convinced this step would increase the usability a lot.<br />
What do you think about that? --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 01:20, 31 March 2009 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Since there were no objections I restructured the page as planned. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=Talk:PortablePlayers&diff=13070Talk:PortablePlayers2011-09-30T17:09:02Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Discontinued players */ re</p>
<hr />
<div>== Discontinued players ==<br />
I think that discontinued players should be moved into a different section. Not necessarily removed, as many are still available on clearance/refurbished/used.<br />
<br />
The question is, how to make the split? I see three possibilities:<br />
# Discontinued players on a separate page<br />
# same page, but separate top-level section. e.g.:<br />
#* Current devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
#* Discontinued devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
# make a subsection within each section. e.g.:<br />
#* Flash-memory devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* HD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* CD/DVD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
<br />
I'll hold off any updates right now, but I'll check back in a few days/weeks/whenever and see if there's any opinions here. If there's no disagreement by then, and noone has beat me to it, I'll take the initiative. [[User:Bsammon|Bsammon]] 03:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Having sections for discontinued devices (on each subpage) is fine - but I suggest to avoid explicit ''Current devices'' sections. With a ''discontinued devices'' section on a page it is immediately clear that everything listed before is current.--[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:09, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== List of top five players ==<br />
It would be a good idea to have a few (five?) players at the top with images that are considered to be the best *recent* devices. I don't think any of the MP3 using masses will use this page to choose their next music player unless it lists recent devices, and presents a choice of five or six at the top, with images, and links to sites that they can buy them from. Also, could someone put up a notice to remind people it's not OGG, or Ogg! It's Ogg Vorbis, or if you must, Vorbis. - thehumanerror 25th December 2006<br />
<br />
I totally agree with the above. This page was next to useless for me when I was shopping for a Vorbis player since I was overwhelmed with choices. Add to that the fact that many products have been discontinued or cannot be bought new and there's a recipe for disaster. - erpo41 October 17th, 2007<br />
<br />
I also agree with the above; the primary reason I am not using Ogg Vorbis (I keep a parallel collection of mp3 and flac files) is I cannot easily find a portable player. I don't know that reorganizing this wiki page will help. I did comb through this page; basically all of the listed hard disk players are from one off manufacturers or not being manufactured any more. There are plenty of nice flash storage based devices and cell phones (from Samsung and others), but that is not what I am looking for. Also, I'm not interested in hacking my iPod. (I do embedded linux development enough at work; I'll pay someone else to get my media player working). Until this is addressed, Ogg Vorbis is going to remain out of use; which is a shame because for every other reason it is the best (in my opinion). --Kevin Holzer, January 10, 2009<br />
<br />
:Yes. This is a good idea. Create a section at the top. Polish it well. And perhaps add a free-licensed photo. Anyone up for it?--[[User:Saoshyant|Ivo]] 06:41, 17 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
I would rather see just a simple feature matrix (sorted so that unavailable devices are listed at the bottom, or just not listed at all). See talk below. Maybe preferred choises could be raised to the top thought! I agree that current list is quite unusable.<br />
<br />
:As of now, the page contains a feature matrix, which only lists current and available devices. Thus, when you check this page out for buying advice it should be more useful now, i.e. it has no overwhelming effect anymore. I consider the raised issues as '''done'''. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:04, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Recording in Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
I would like to know which Players can '''record''' in Vorbis?! -- [[User:217.186.150.213|217.186.150.213]] 17:03, 26 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Ditto. Absolutely vital information. Do any of the players listed also record in Vorbis? If anyone has experience with A player, please state specifically whether it does or does not record in Vorbis.[[User:Nickhill|Nickhill]] 15:04, 4 June 2006 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::Never heard of one that does, and there isn't a fixed point reference encoder, which makes it unlikely.<br />
<br />
== Pretec Allegro may need firmware update ==<br />
<br />
I recently purchased a Pretec Allegro, but was unable to play Oggs for three months, until the firmware update was made available on 14 or 15 March 2005. Now it works well! (So far, listening to -q3 Oggs). I'd hope that units purchased after this date already has the firmware update, but you never know. Installing the update is as simple as placing the .rom on the USB-storage-device media (eg flash disk), starting up the unit, and pressing the play button. -- Hugo van der Merwe<br />
: How much battery runtime do you get playing Oggs compared with playing mp3? [[User:Phr|Phr]] 02:05, 27 Aug 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Any player with Removable Memory Cards ==<br />
<br />
The NexBlack (see [[PortablePlayers]] ) has removable compact flash and batteries.<br />
<br />
Every single Vorbis-capable portable player out there seems to come with built-in flash memory. Which is stupid, because I don't want to fire up my computer and plug in the player every time I get tired of the tracks on my player. Plus flash memory has a limited lifetime (write cycles) and so does your player with built-in memory. The same applies for built-in rechargable batteries. <br />
<br />
Now when would you ever need to buy your second device without any moving parts if you could just change flash memory and batteries? Ok, that's the industrie's point of view but not mine. I want to go on vacation with music and batteries for one week of non-stop music - without a power source or computer nearby.<br />
<br />
So, any hint to where I might find a portable audio player that can play back ogg vorbis files and uses SD flash cards (and preferably AAA-batteries) would be greatly appreciated.<br />
* Me too! If the [http://enox.co.kr/2004/eng/product/product_830_01.asp Enox EMX-830] took SD cards it'd be perfect. --[[User:Rgm|rgm]] 14:41, 7 Nov 2005 (PST)<br />
<br />
* SanDisk Sansa e250/e260/e270/e280 has a microSD-card slot. With ROCKbox it plays Ogg/Vorbis and more.[[User:Nostromo|Nostromo]] 15:26, 29 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
The Pretec Allegro is not the slickest player out there, it's LCD backlight seems to give off a high-pitched whine, which not everyone can hear (it kind-of screams in my ears though, so I put the backlight timer on 1 second so it doesn't scream too long). It is, however, the only one I now know of that can play Oggs, and uses removable media. If you want a nicely portable device, you have to use Pretec's "iDisk tiny" usb flash disk, the only thing that will fit inside. You can also, however, connect some USB SD-card reader with it's cable, then listen to Oggs off of SD. A little unwieldy, but, it works, and is the only thing *I* know of. (I stopped following developments in December though, when I bought it...)<br />
<br />
== Samsung / Yepp ==<br />
<br />
Moved to [[Talk:PortablePlayersSamsungYepp]]<br />
<br />
== UniBrain iZak ==<br />
<br />
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this; I'm new to wikis.<br />
<br />
The UniBrain iZak was added, then removed recently, with the comment that it doesn't claim to play Ogg Vorbis.<br />
<br />
The FAQ is available here: [http://www.unibrain.com/support/FAQ_iZak.htm iZak FAQ] and Question/Answer 24 says:<br />
<br />
'22. Can iZak™ support OGG audio files?<br />
<br />
Yes, iZak™ fully supports OGG playback using the latest firmware.'<br />
<br />
:I was the one that removed it. In their specs linked from the main page, I saw that they listed only MP3 and WMA support for music formats. Obviously they need to update their promotional material! I went ahead and added the iZak back in, making a point to mention that the most current version of the firmware now supports Ogg Vorbis and linking to their FAQ as evidence. [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 02:36, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Splendid. I didn't want to just stick it back after it had been taken out.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 05:14, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Entempo Spirit ==<br />
<br />
This inexpensive player from Entempo had listed Vorbis as a "Supported Audio Format", but the device will not index the Vorbis files into it's menus -- let alone play the files. Tested with both the stock and most recent firmware, May 29, 2005. Vendor had been contacted and removed Vorbis support claims from their website, but has not provided any resolution to customers which purchased the product expecting this support. The company's webpage has disappeared as of Feb 2006.<br />
<br />
== Lexar LDP-800 dropped ==<br />
It seems that Lexar have abondoned the LDP-800. The following was posted by a user on [http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.1055 dapreview.net]<br />
" Unfortunately, lexar will not offer the LDP-800, but will focus instead<br />
on its existing LDP Players that already offer appealing features and<br />
benefits to meet a variety of consumer needs."<br />
Shame.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 06:15, 22 Jul 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
There's more info on that dapreview thread that indicates some confusion within Lexar. Currently, it looks like the release is going to happen in early September.<br />
<br />
Update 2005-11-11: after inquiries to Lexar's "new products" personnel, I received a telephone message that the LDP-800 will definitely "is not going to see the light of day." Ask me if you want details. I agree that it's a shame since this looked to be an outstanding product. --[[User:dfavro|dfavro]]<br />
<br />
== Hong Kong Dream-tech Electronic DT-202, works? please confirm ==<br />
http://hkdream-tech.com<br />
An ebay seller says that it can reproduce Vorbis. This is unconfirmed. In the manufacturer web it says: MP3, WMA, WAV, DMV and etc. <br />
<br />
Some webpage also says that it works on Windows, Mac and Linux. Also unconfirmed.<br />
Further investigation required.<br />
<br />
== Trekstor i.Beat Cube ==<br />
This player seems to be very similar to the Samsung Yepp YP-T6, possibly with the [[#Yepp_MT-6X|same problems]] regarding Vorbis playback. Trekstor has moved [http://www.trekstor.de/en/produkte/mp3-player/ibeat-cube.html info about this player] from "MP3-Player" to the "Archive" section which propably means that it is not produced anymore.<br />
<br />
== The Muzio jm300 / jm-300 does NOT play Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
NB this is the jm-300 (not 100 or 200)<br />
<br />
I bought this a month ago. I've been unable to play Vorbis files on<br />
it. It simply shows these as 'etc' files and skips over them.<br />
<br />
Pitty really, this was the main reason I chose this player.<br />
<br />
I've seen lots of discussion about the muzio playing oggs, is there<br />
anybody there who owns a jm300 and is actually playing oggs ? I can't<br />
help think I've juts missed something basic.<br />
<br />
== Layout of the PortablePlayers list and Feature matrix ==<br />
It's gone! I've moved this discussion to [[Talk:PortablePlayersv2]]. [[User:Imalone|Imalone]] 10:55, 18 November 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Is there something very wrong with those proposals? I mean, is there any reason why (even a simple) feature matrix just could not be applied right now? It would probably solve 'list of top 5 players' problem above too. Just list something basic from the main features, name, size, weight, price, battery (internal, aa, aaa, ..), capasity, flash card type (sd, microsd, ..) , availability (current or discontinued), supported formats, charging (usb or propietary or none). Link to the longer comments. No complicated sorting or anything too fancy. No icons. Name can be a abbreviation to save space, use it as a link to current comments.<br />
<br />
== NEXBlack out ==<br />
<br />
I got my NEXBlack player today from Frontier Labs. It is a nice gadget with sleek design. They have corrected the occasional snap-sounds that came between tracks and it is overall more usable now. Vorbis-files also play fine, but the current firmware doesn't have Vorbis-tag reader, which is somewhat major drawback. The music selection works through mp3-tags and you can select by album, artist, genre and playlist, but since Vorbis tags won't work you have to select "unordered" to play them. Vorbis-files are all listed in one big list. I hope they either implement a Vorbis-tag reader or revert to old Nex IIe system where you could select by folder in the flash disc. But for the cheap price ($89), it is a good player... waiting for a new firmware..<br />
<br />
== Sumvision M18/S1 ==<br />
<br />
I've just got the 2GB Sumvision and it plays the OGG files I've tested so far. Should I add it to the list? [[User:Steevc|Steevc]] 04:05, 19 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Humble A2 Review ==<br />
<br />
Just a blog link [http://www.personal.psu.edu/gsc127/blogs/2007/10/happiness-with-cowon-a2.html to my review of the the Cowon A2]. Thanks, [[User:GChriss|GChriss]] 13:23, 6 November 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
== iRiver e100 ==<br />
<br />
[http://reviews.cnet.com/4566-6490_7-0.html?filter=1000036_5260177_ CNet] and [http://www.amazon.com/iRiver-E100-Multimedia-Player-White/dp/B00171UYYS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1208253617&sr=8-5 Amazon] are saying the iRiver e100 supports Vorbis. I haven't tested it myself. [[User:Mattflaschen|Mattflaschen]] 03:09, 15 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Bought an vorbis-enabled player recently? Tell us where! ==<br />
<br />
I have started a page that should allow people easier purchasing of vorbis-enabled players: [[PortablePlayers_per_Place]]<br />
<br />
Everyone, who bought an vorbis-enabled player recently should update the page with place and model.<br />
<br />
== Move Flash/HD-sections to dedicated pages ==<br />
<br />
Hi,<br />
<br />
IMHO the PortablePlayers page is too long. I want to split it into several pages for each main section. Like [[PortablePlayers/Flash]], [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk]] etc.. Sure, one have to fix some links then, but I am convinced this step would increase the usability a lot.<br />
What do you think about that? --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 01:20, 31 March 2009 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Since there were no objections I restructured the page as planned. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=Talk:PortablePlayers&diff=13069Talk:PortablePlayers2011-09-30T17:04:37Z<p>Gsauthof: /* List of top five players */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Discontinued players ==<br />
I think that discontinued players should be moved into a different section. Not necessarily removed, as many are still available on clearance/refurbished/used.<br />
<br />
The question is, how to make the split? I see three possibilities:<br />
# Discontinued players on a separate page<br />
# same page, but separate top-level section. e.g.:<br />
#* Current devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
#* Discontinued devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
# make a subsection within each section. e.g.:<br />
#* Flash-memory devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* HD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* CD/DVD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
<br />
I'll hold off any updates right now, but I'll check back in a few days/weeks/whenever and see if there's any opinions here. If there's no disagreement by then, and noone has beat me to it, I'll take the initiative. [[User:Bsammon|Bsammon]] 03:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== List of top five players ==<br />
It would be a good idea to have a few (five?) players at the top with images that are considered to be the best *recent* devices. I don't think any of the MP3 using masses will use this page to choose their next music player unless it lists recent devices, and presents a choice of five or six at the top, with images, and links to sites that they can buy them from. Also, could someone put up a notice to remind people it's not OGG, or Ogg! It's Ogg Vorbis, or if you must, Vorbis. - thehumanerror 25th December 2006<br />
<br />
I totally agree with the above. This page was next to useless for me when I was shopping for a Vorbis player since I was overwhelmed with choices. Add to that the fact that many products have been discontinued or cannot be bought new and there's a recipe for disaster. - erpo41 October 17th, 2007<br />
<br />
I also agree with the above; the primary reason I am not using Ogg Vorbis (I keep a parallel collection of mp3 and flac files) is I cannot easily find a portable player. I don't know that reorganizing this wiki page will help. I did comb through this page; basically all of the listed hard disk players are from one off manufacturers or not being manufactured any more. There are plenty of nice flash storage based devices and cell phones (from Samsung and others), but that is not what I am looking for. Also, I'm not interested in hacking my iPod. (I do embedded linux development enough at work; I'll pay someone else to get my media player working). Until this is addressed, Ogg Vorbis is going to remain out of use; which is a shame because for every other reason it is the best (in my opinion). --Kevin Holzer, January 10, 2009<br />
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:Yes. This is a good idea. Create a section at the top. Polish it well. And perhaps add a free-licensed photo. Anyone up for it?--[[User:Saoshyant|Ivo]] 06:41, 17 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
I would rather see just a simple feature matrix (sorted so that unavailable devices are listed at the bottom, or just not listed at all). See talk below. Maybe preferred choises could be raised to the top thought! I agree that current list is quite unusable.<br />
<br />
:As of now, the page contains a feature matrix, which only lists current and available devices. Thus, when you check this page out for buying advice it should be more useful now, i.e. it has no overwhelming effect anymore. I consider the raised issues as '''done'''. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:04, 30 September 2011 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Recording in Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
I would like to know which Players can '''record''' in Vorbis?! -- [[User:217.186.150.213|217.186.150.213]] 17:03, 26 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Ditto. Absolutely vital information. Do any of the players listed also record in Vorbis? If anyone has experience with A player, please state specifically whether it does or does not record in Vorbis.[[User:Nickhill|Nickhill]] 15:04, 4 June 2006 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::Never heard of one that does, and there isn't a fixed point reference encoder, which makes it unlikely.<br />
<br />
== Pretec Allegro may need firmware update ==<br />
<br />
I recently purchased a Pretec Allegro, but was unable to play Oggs for three months, until the firmware update was made available on 14 or 15 March 2005. Now it works well! (So far, listening to -q3 Oggs). I'd hope that units purchased after this date already has the firmware update, but you never know. Installing the update is as simple as placing the .rom on the USB-storage-device media (eg flash disk), starting up the unit, and pressing the play button. -- Hugo van der Merwe<br />
: How much battery runtime do you get playing Oggs compared with playing mp3? [[User:Phr|Phr]] 02:05, 27 Aug 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Any player with Removable Memory Cards ==<br />
<br />
The NexBlack (see [[PortablePlayers]] ) has removable compact flash and batteries.<br />
<br />
Every single Vorbis-capable portable player out there seems to come with built-in flash memory. Which is stupid, because I don't want to fire up my computer and plug in the player every time I get tired of the tracks on my player. Plus flash memory has a limited lifetime (write cycles) and so does your player with built-in memory. The same applies for built-in rechargable batteries. <br />
<br />
Now when would you ever need to buy your second device without any moving parts if you could just change flash memory and batteries? Ok, that's the industrie's point of view but not mine. I want to go on vacation with music and batteries for one week of non-stop music - without a power source or computer nearby.<br />
<br />
So, any hint to where I might find a portable audio player that can play back ogg vorbis files and uses SD flash cards (and preferably AAA-batteries) would be greatly appreciated.<br />
* Me too! If the [http://enox.co.kr/2004/eng/product/product_830_01.asp Enox EMX-830] took SD cards it'd be perfect. --[[User:Rgm|rgm]] 14:41, 7 Nov 2005 (PST)<br />
<br />
* SanDisk Sansa e250/e260/e270/e280 has a microSD-card slot. With ROCKbox it plays Ogg/Vorbis and more.[[User:Nostromo|Nostromo]] 15:26, 29 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
The Pretec Allegro is not the slickest player out there, it's LCD backlight seems to give off a high-pitched whine, which not everyone can hear (it kind-of screams in my ears though, so I put the backlight timer on 1 second so it doesn't scream too long). It is, however, the only one I now know of that can play Oggs, and uses removable media. If you want a nicely portable device, you have to use Pretec's "iDisk tiny" usb flash disk, the only thing that will fit inside. You can also, however, connect some USB SD-card reader with it's cable, then listen to Oggs off of SD. A little unwieldy, but, it works, and is the only thing *I* know of. (I stopped following developments in December though, when I bought it...)<br />
<br />
== Samsung / Yepp ==<br />
<br />
Moved to [[Talk:PortablePlayersSamsungYepp]]<br />
<br />
== UniBrain iZak ==<br />
<br />
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this; I'm new to wikis.<br />
<br />
The UniBrain iZak was added, then removed recently, with the comment that it doesn't claim to play Ogg Vorbis.<br />
<br />
The FAQ is available here: [http://www.unibrain.com/support/FAQ_iZak.htm iZak FAQ] and Question/Answer 24 says:<br />
<br />
'22. Can iZak™ support OGG audio files?<br />
<br />
Yes, iZak™ fully supports OGG playback using the latest firmware.'<br />
<br />
:I was the one that removed it. In their specs linked from the main page, I saw that they listed only MP3 and WMA support for music formats. Obviously they need to update their promotional material! I went ahead and added the iZak back in, making a point to mention that the most current version of the firmware now supports Ogg Vorbis and linking to their FAQ as evidence. [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 02:36, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Splendid. I didn't want to just stick it back after it had been taken out.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 05:14, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Entempo Spirit ==<br />
<br />
This inexpensive player from Entempo had listed Vorbis as a "Supported Audio Format", but the device will not index the Vorbis files into it's menus -- let alone play the files. Tested with both the stock and most recent firmware, May 29, 2005. Vendor had been contacted and removed Vorbis support claims from their website, but has not provided any resolution to customers which purchased the product expecting this support. The company's webpage has disappeared as of Feb 2006.<br />
<br />
== Lexar LDP-800 dropped ==<br />
It seems that Lexar have abondoned the LDP-800. The following was posted by a user on [http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.1055 dapreview.net]<br />
" Unfortunately, lexar will not offer the LDP-800, but will focus instead<br />
on its existing LDP Players that already offer appealing features and<br />
benefits to meet a variety of consumer needs."<br />
Shame.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 06:15, 22 Jul 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
There's more info on that dapreview thread that indicates some confusion within Lexar. Currently, it looks like the release is going to happen in early September.<br />
<br />
Update 2005-11-11: after inquiries to Lexar's "new products" personnel, I received a telephone message that the LDP-800 will definitely "is not going to see the light of day." Ask me if you want details. I agree that it's a shame since this looked to be an outstanding product. --[[User:dfavro|dfavro]]<br />
<br />
== Hong Kong Dream-tech Electronic DT-202, works? please confirm ==<br />
http://hkdream-tech.com<br />
An ebay seller says that it can reproduce Vorbis. This is unconfirmed. In the manufacturer web it says: MP3, WMA, WAV, DMV and etc. <br />
<br />
Some webpage also says that it works on Windows, Mac and Linux. Also unconfirmed.<br />
Further investigation required.<br />
<br />
== Trekstor i.Beat Cube ==<br />
This player seems to be very similar to the Samsung Yepp YP-T6, possibly with the [[#Yepp_MT-6X|same problems]] regarding Vorbis playback. Trekstor has moved [http://www.trekstor.de/en/produkte/mp3-player/ibeat-cube.html info about this player] from "MP3-Player" to the "Archive" section which propably means that it is not produced anymore.<br />
<br />
== The Muzio jm300 / jm-300 does NOT play Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
NB this is the jm-300 (not 100 or 200)<br />
<br />
I bought this a month ago. I've been unable to play Vorbis files on<br />
it. It simply shows these as 'etc' files and skips over them.<br />
<br />
Pitty really, this was the main reason I chose this player.<br />
<br />
I've seen lots of discussion about the muzio playing oggs, is there<br />
anybody there who owns a jm300 and is actually playing oggs ? I can't<br />
help think I've juts missed something basic.<br />
<br />
== Layout of the PortablePlayers list and Feature matrix ==<br />
It's gone! I've moved this discussion to [[Talk:PortablePlayersv2]]. [[User:Imalone|Imalone]] 10:55, 18 November 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Is there something very wrong with those proposals? I mean, is there any reason why (even a simple) feature matrix just could not be applied right now? It would probably solve 'list of top 5 players' problem above too. Just list something basic from the main features, name, size, weight, price, battery (internal, aa, aaa, ..), capasity, flash card type (sd, microsd, ..) , availability (current or discontinued), supported formats, charging (usb or propietary or none). Link to the longer comments. No complicated sorting or anything too fancy. No icons. Name can be a abbreviation to save space, use it as a link to current comments.<br />
<br />
== NEXBlack out ==<br />
<br />
I got my NEXBlack player today from Frontier Labs. It is a nice gadget with sleek design. They have corrected the occasional snap-sounds that came between tracks and it is overall more usable now. Vorbis-files also play fine, but the current firmware doesn't have Vorbis-tag reader, which is somewhat major drawback. The music selection works through mp3-tags and you can select by album, artist, genre and playlist, but since Vorbis tags won't work you have to select "unordered" to play them. Vorbis-files are all listed in one big list. I hope they either implement a Vorbis-tag reader or revert to old Nex IIe system where you could select by folder in the flash disc. But for the cheap price ($89), it is a good player... waiting for a new firmware..<br />
<br />
== Sumvision M18/S1 ==<br />
<br />
I've just got the 2GB Sumvision and it plays the OGG files I've tested so far. Should I add it to the list? [[User:Steevc|Steevc]] 04:05, 19 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Humble A2 Review ==<br />
<br />
Just a blog link [http://www.personal.psu.edu/gsc127/blogs/2007/10/happiness-with-cowon-a2.html to my review of the the Cowon A2]. Thanks, [[User:GChriss|GChriss]] 13:23, 6 November 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
== iRiver e100 ==<br />
<br />
[http://reviews.cnet.com/4566-6490_7-0.html?filter=1000036_5260177_ CNet] and [http://www.amazon.com/iRiver-E100-Multimedia-Player-White/dp/B00171UYYS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1208253617&sr=8-5 Amazon] are saying the iRiver e100 supports Vorbis. I haven't tested it myself. [[User:Mattflaschen|Mattflaschen]] 03:09, 15 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Bought an vorbis-enabled player recently? Tell us where! ==<br />
<br />
I have started a page that should allow people easier purchasing of vorbis-enabled players: [[PortablePlayers_per_Place]]<br />
<br />
Everyone, who bought an vorbis-enabled player recently should update the page with place and model.<br />
<br />
== Move Flash/HD-sections to dedicated pages ==<br />
<br />
Hi,<br />
<br />
IMHO the PortablePlayers page is too long. I want to split it into several pages for each main section. Like [[PortablePlayers/Flash]], [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk]] etc.. Sure, one have to fix some links then, but I am convinced this step would increase the usability a lot.<br />
What do you think about that? --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 01:20, 31 March 2009 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Since there were no objections I restructured the page as planned. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisStreams&diff=13032VorbisStreams2011-09-14T08:35:34Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Live streams */ fsk</p>
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<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to listen to a stream, not to the station's main homepage. We don't link directly to the stream because they tend to move around, because the stations like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these stations still use.<br />
<br />
== Automatically updated stream directories ==<br />
<br />
* [http://dir.xiph.org/ Icecast directory], The official xiph.org stream directory.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.musicgoal.com/stations/application-ogg/ Musicgoal], Provides a directory of Ogg Vorbis streams.<br />
<br />
* [http://radio.indymedia.org/ Radio Indymedia], Promotes open-publishing with an aggregated stream list. Identifies Ogg Vorbis streams.<br />
<br />
== Live streams ==<br />
<br />
* [http://mmrmedia.xs4all.nl/backlash/ BBR] Backstreet Backlash Records, Rotterdam, The Netherlands.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.bermudafunk.org/ Bermudafunk] Independent radio for the Rhein/Neckar-region, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.hot.ee/bluegrassradio/ BlueGrassRadio 108] 24h Bluegrass & Related Music - Tallinn, Estonia<br />
<br />
* [http://syntag.net/brasill/ Brazillbient Lounge] easy listening for punk rockers.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.rozhlas.cz/audio/vysilani/ &#268;eský Roz&zwj;hlas] three public-radio channels, Czech Republic.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.cjsw.com/listen.html CJSW] University of Calgary student radio, Calgary, Alberta, Canada.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.danceradio.cz DANCE RADIO CZ] dance radio channels, Czech Republic.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.dradio.de/wir/ogg Deutschlandradio] - Germany's nationwide public radio, broadcasting three channels: Deutschlandfunk (news, politics), DeutschlandRadio Kultur (culture, classical music), DRadio Wissen (science)<br />
<br />
* [http://edgefm.com.au/ Edge FM] 102.1 FM contemporary music from seventies to current, Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia.<br />
<br />
* [http://ebmradio.de EBM Radio] futurepop and industrial music, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.fsk-hh.org/livestream Freies Sender Kombinat (FSK)] non-commercial grassroots radio, Hamburg, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://radio.full-vibes.com/ FullVibes] underground techno, hardtek, breakbeat, jungle, and drumnbass radio.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.hbr1.com/ HBR1] music on Futurenet, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.radiohertz.de/beta-site/livestream/ Hertz 87,9] College Radio, University of Bielefed, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://kalx.berkeley.edu/ KALX-FM] University of California, College Radio, Berkeley, California, USA. <br />
<br />
* [http://www.kdvs.org/ KDVS-FM] Freeform radio, Davis, California, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.kohina.com/ Kohina] plays soundtracks of C64 and Atari games.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.kpcw.org/listen KPCW-FM] community radio news and talk, Park City, Utah, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.krcl.org/listenlive.htm KRCL-FM] community radio, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.radio1190.org/netcast.html KVCU-AM] Radio 1190, Independent Music, Boulder, Colorado, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://lora924.de/?page_id=7853 LORA München] talk radio, Munich, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.m945.de/ M94.5] student radio, Munich, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://magnatune.com/info/faq_streaming Magnatune] stream of the Magnatune label music library, requires subscription fee, Berkeley, California, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.omroepvenray.nl/ Omroep Venray] local public radio station, Venray, Netherlands.<br />
<br />
* [http://loudcity.com/stations/party107/files/show/listen.html Party107] 100% commercial-free Internet radio, Nixa, Missouri, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.helsinki.at/ Radio Helsinki] freeform and variety music, Graz, Austria.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.sky-radio.fm/ Sky Radio] Russian-language popular radio station, Estonia.<br />
<br />
* [http://tilos.hu/ Tilos Radio] public non-mainstream radio in Budapest, Hungary.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.urgent.fm/ URGent Radio] student radio, Gent, Vlaanderen, Belgium.<br />
<br />
* [http://urn1350.net/listenlive URN 1350-AM] student radio, Nottingham, United Kingdom.<br />
<br />
* [http://stream.wbai.org/ WBAI-FM] part of the Pacifica Foundation, community radio, New York, New York, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wbur.org/listen/ WBUR-FM] public radio news and talk, Boston, Massachusetts, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wcbn.org/listen.html WCBN-FM] University of Michigan student radio, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wclv.com/page.php?pageID=64 WCLV-FM] classical music, Cleveland, Ohio, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://theclassicalstation.org/internet.shtml WCPE-FM] classical music, Wake Forest, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wfmu.org/ssaudionet.shtml WFMU-FM] freeform radio, Jersey City, New Jersey, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wknc.org/listen.php WKNC-FM] North Carolina State University student radio, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wrct.org/ WRCT-FM] Carnegie Mellon University student radio, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wscafm.org/ WSCA-FM] community radio, Portsmouth, New Hampshire, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wsia.fm WSIA-FM] CUNY student radio, Staten Island, New York, New York, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wuml.org/webcast.php WUML-FM] college radio, Lowell, Massachusetts, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wxdu.org/listen/index.html WXDU-FM] Duke University student radio, Durham, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wxyc.org/listen/online WXYC-FM] University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill student radio, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
== Discontinued streams ==<br />
<br />
These streams are no longer working; they are mentioned for historical interest.<br />
<br />
* [http://support.bbc.co.uk/ogg/ BBC test stream] offline since 2003-01-03.<br />
<br />
* [http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freeradiolinux/ Free radio Linux] speech synthesizer reading the Linux source code, offline since mid-2004.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.liberationradio.net/ San Francisco Liberation Radio] was forcibly taken offline by the United States Marshalls and FCC on 2003-10-25.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.sluchaj.com/ Radio Słuchaj] Poland. offline since 2006-12-31 <br />
<br />
* [http://www.cbc.ca/listen/ogg.html CBC Radio One & Two] public radio, Toronto, Canada.<br />
<br />
* [http://fm4.amd.co.at/ FM4] Unofficial stream of FM4 Austria - offline since 2010<br />
<br />
[[Category:Vorbis]]</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisCasts&diff=13031VorbisCasts2011-09-14T08:27:53Z<p>Gsauthof: ratio new zealand, ISS</p>
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<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to subscribe to an audiocast (also known as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast netcast or podcast]), not to the audiocast's main homepage. We don't link directly to the feed url because they tend to move around, because the audiocasts like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these audiocasts still use.<br />
<br />
== Active ==<br />
* [http://deimhart.net/ Deimhart] - German language audiocast about Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source which got a European Podcast Award in 2011.<br />
* [http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=_BR1WkSS3RGuRqdV1L3fcQ FLOSS Weekly] - weekly audiocast from the TWIT network about Free/Libre/Open Source Software<br />
* [http://faif.us/ Free as in Freedom] - Legal aspects of free software by the hosts of the discontinued Software Freedom Law Center audiocast<br />
* [http://www.hackerfunk.ch/ Hackerfunk] - Swiss German audiocast about hacking related topics (vintage computing, programming languages etc.)<br />
* [http://kernelpanicoggcast.net/ Kernelpanic Oggcast]<br />
* [http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ Linux Outlaws] - Weekly audiocast about releases, news (including MS and Apple watch), interviews and reviews.<br />
* [http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes Radio New Zealand National] - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_New_Zealand_National publicly-funded non-commercial radio] that provides several audiocasts of its programmes, e.g.: [http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ourchangingworld Our Changing World] (science show) and [http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/atthemovies At the Movies] (movie show)<br />
* [http://blog.radiotux.de/podcasts/ Radio Tux] - Audiocasts from the german Linux news radio<br />
* [http://ratholeradio.org/ Rathole Radio] - Free music audiocast, i.e. mainly featuring music licensed under the Creative Commons license<br />
* [http://www.sourcetrunk.com/ Sourcetrunk] - Project/task centric audiocast using Open Source and free software.<br />
* [http://tllts.org/rsspage.php The Linux Link Tech Show]<br />
* [http://www.tuxradar.com/podcast TuxRadar] - Weekly audiocast about Linux related news, releases and opinionated discussions.<br />
<br />
== Directories ==<br />
<br />
* [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Podcasts Ubuntu Podcasts] - List of Linux/Ubuntu related audiocasts including ogg vorbis feeds<br />
* [http://oggcastplanet.org/members.html Oggcast Planet] - List of Ogg Vorbis only audiocasts<br />
<br />
== Finished ==<br />
Audiocasts that are still available but do not produce new episodes.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.scienceschool.usyd.edu.au/ISS2007/index.php?page=podcasts ISS2007 ecoscience] - lecture audiocast of the 34th International Science School ecoscience, 2007, University of Sydney, Australia. Target audience is high-school students.<br />
* [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/rss/ NerdTV] - Interview audiocast with famous guests from computer/internet history (e.g. the 'inventor of TCP'). Sponsored bei PBS. Until 2006-04.<br />
* [http://www.softwarefreedom.org/feeds/ Oggcast] - Bi-weekly audiocast from the Software Freedom Law Center, New York. Until 2011-08.<br />
* [http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices Open Voices] - Interview audiocast by the Linux Foundation, featuring interviews with guests like Linus Torvalds, open source people from Mozilla etc.<br />
* [http://jamespurser.com.au/blog/almost-six-years-ago-i-started-linux-australia-update Linux Australia Update]. Until 2006.<br />
* [http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator:%22chess%20griffin%22&usort=date Linux Reality Podcast]. [http://www.linuxreality.com/ Until 2008-03.]<br />
* [http://www.lugradio.org/ LugRadio] - Until 2008.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisCasts&diff=13026VorbisCasts2011-09-12T21:53:02Z<p>Gsauthof: typo</p>
<hr />
<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to subscribe to an audiocast (also known as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast netcast or podcast]), not to the audiocast's main homepage. We don't link directly to the feed url because they tend to move around, because the audiocasts like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these audiocasts still use.<br />
<br />
== Active ==<br />
* [http://deimhart.net/ Deimhart] - German language audiocast about Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source which got a European Podcast Award in 2011.<br />
* [http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=_BR1WkSS3RGuRqdV1L3fcQ FLOSS Weekly] - weekly audiocast from the TWIT network about Free/Libre/Open Source Software<br />
* [http://faif.us/ Free as in Freedom] - Legal aspects of free software by the hosts of the discontinued Software Freedom Law Center audiocast<br />
* [http://www.hackerfunk.ch/ Hackerfunk] - Swiss German audiocast about hacking related topics (vintage computing, programming languages etc.)<br />
* [http://kernelpanicoggcast.net/ Kernelpanic Oggcast]<br />
* [http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ Linux Outlaws] - Weekly audiocast about releases, news (including MS and Apple watch), interviews and reviews.<br />
* [http://blog.radiotux.de/podcasts/ Radio Tux] - Audiocasts from the german Linux news radio<br />
* [http://ratholeradio.org/ Rathole Radio] - Free music audiocast, i.e. mainly featuring music licensed under the Creative Commons license<br />
* [http://www.sourcetrunk.com/ Sourcetrunk] - Project/task centric audiocast using Open Source and free software.<br />
* [http://tllts.org/rsspage.php The Linux Link Tech Show]<br />
* [http://www.tuxradar.com/podcast TuxRadar] - Weekly audiocast about Linux related news, releases and opinionated discussions.<br />
<br />
== Directories ==<br />
<br />
* [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Podcasts Ubuntu Podcasts] - List of Linux/Ubuntu related audiocasts including ogg vorbis feeds<br />
* [http://oggcastplanet.org/members.html Oggcast Planet] - List of Ogg Vorbis only audiocasts<br />
<br />
== Finished ==<br />
Audiocasts that are still available but do not produce new episodes.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/rss/ NerdTV] - Interview audiocast with famous guests from computer/internet history (e.g. the 'inventor of TCP'). Sponsored bei PBS. Until 2006-04.<br />
* [http://www.softwarefreedom.org/feeds/ Oggcast] - Bi-weekly audiocast from the Software Freedom Law Center, New York. Until 2011-08.<br />
* [http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices Open Voices] - Interview audiocast by the Linux Foundation, featuring interviews with guests like Linus Torvalds, open source people from Mozilla etc.<br />
* [http://jamespurser.com.au/blog/almost-six-years-ago-i-started-linux-australia-update Linux Australia Update]. Until 2006.<br />
* [http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator:%22chess%20griffin%22&usort=date Linux Reality Podcast]. [http://www.linuxreality.com/ Until 2008-03.]<br />
* [http://www.lugradio.org/ LugRadio] - Until 2008.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisCasts&diff=13025VorbisCasts2011-09-12T21:52:33Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Active */ hackerfunk</p>
<hr />
<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to subscribe to an audiocast (also known as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast netcast or podcast]), not to the audiocast's main homepage. We don't link directly to the feed url because they tend to move around, because the audiocasts like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these audiocasts still use.<br />
<br />
== Active ==<br />
* [http://deimhart.net/ Deimhart] - German language audiocast about Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source which got a European Podcast Award in 2011.<br />
* [http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=_BR1WkSS3RGuRqdV1L3fcQ FLOSS Weekly] - weekly audiocast from the TWIT network about Free/Libre/Open Source Software<br />
* [http://faif.us/ Free as in Freedom] - Legal aspects of free software by the hosts of the discontinued Software Freedom Law Center audiocast<br />
* [http://www.hackerfunk.ch/ Hackfunk] - Swiss German audiocast about hacking related topics (vintage computing, programming languages etc.)<br />
* [http://kernelpanicoggcast.net/ Kernelpanic Oggcast]<br />
* [http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ Linux Outlaws] - Weekly audiocast about releases, news (including MS and Apple watch), interviews and reviews.<br />
* [http://blog.radiotux.de/podcasts/ Radio Tux] - Audiocasts from the german Linux news radio<br />
* [http://ratholeradio.org/ Rathole Radio] - Free music audiocast, i.e. mainly featuring music licensed under the Creative Commons license<br />
* [http://www.sourcetrunk.com/ Sourcetrunk] - Project/task centric audiocast using Open Source and free software.<br />
* [http://tllts.org/rsspage.php The Linux Link Tech Show]<br />
* [http://www.tuxradar.com/podcast TuxRadar] - Weekly audiocast about Linux related news, releases and opinionated discussions.<br />
<br />
== Directories ==<br />
<br />
* [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Podcasts Ubuntu Podcasts] - List of Linux/Ubuntu related audiocasts including ogg vorbis feeds<br />
* [http://oggcastplanet.org/members.html Oggcast Planet] - List of Ogg Vorbis only audiocasts<br />
<br />
== Finished ==<br />
Audiocasts that are still available but do not produce new episodes.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/rss/ NerdTV] - Interview audiocast with famous guests from computer/internet history (e.g. the 'inventor of TCP'). Sponsored bei PBS. Until 2006-04.<br />
* [http://www.softwarefreedom.org/feeds/ Oggcast] - Bi-weekly audiocast from the Software Freedom Law Center, New York. Until 2011-08.<br />
* [http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices Open Voices] - Interview audiocast by the Linux Foundation, featuring interviews with guests like Linus Torvalds, open source people from Mozilla etc.<br />
* [http://jamespurser.com.au/blog/almost-six-years-ago-i-started-linux-australia-update Linux Australia Update]. Until 2006.<br />
* [http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator:%22chess%20griffin%22&usort=date Linux Reality Podcast]. [http://www.linuxreality.com/ Until 2008-03.]<br />
* [http://www.lugradio.org/ LugRadio] - Until 2008.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisCasts&diff=13024VorbisCasts2011-09-12T21:41:57Z<p>Gsauthof: directories, finished, floss weekly etc.</p>
<hr />
<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to subscribe to an audiocast (also known as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast netcast or podcast]), not to the audiocast's main homepage. We don't link directly to the feed url because they tend to move around, because the audiocasts like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these audiocasts still use.<br />
<br />
== Active ==<br />
* [http://deimhart.net/ Deimhart] - German language audiocast about Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source which got a European Podcast Award in 2011.<br />
* [http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=_BR1WkSS3RGuRqdV1L3fcQ FLOSS Weekly] - weekly audiocast from the TWIT network about Free/Libre/Open Source Software<br />
* [http://faif.us/ Free as in Freedom] - Legal aspects of free software by the hosts of the discontinued Software Freedom Law Center audiocast<br />
* [http://kernelpanicoggcast.net/ Kernelpanic Oggcast]<br />
* [http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ Linux Outlaws] - Weekly audiocast about releases, news (including MS and Apple watch), interviews and reviews.<br />
* [http://blog.radiotux.de/podcasts/ Radio Tux] - Audiocasts from the german Linux news radio<br />
* [http://ratholeradio.org/ Rathole Radio] - Free music audiocast, i.e. mainly featuring music licensed under the Creative Commons license<br />
* [http://www.sourcetrunk.com/ Sourcetrunk] - Project/task centric audiocast using Open Source and free software.<br />
* [http://tllts.org/rsspage.php The Linux Link Tech Show]<br />
* [http://www.tuxradar.com/podcast TuxRadar] - Weekly audiocast about Linux related news, releases and opinionated discussions.<br />
<br />
== Directories ==<br />
<br />
* [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Podcasts Ubuntu Podcasts] - List of Linux/Ubuntu related audiocasts including ogg vorbis feeds<br />
* [http://oggcastplanet.org/members.html Oggcast Planet] - List of Ogg Vorbis only audiocasts<br />
<br />
== Finished ==<br />
Audiocasts that are still available but do not produce new episodes.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/rss/ NerdTV] - Interview audiocast with famous guests from computer/internet history (e.g. the 'inventor of TCP'). Sponsored bei PBS. Until 2006-04.<br />
* [http://www.softwarefreedom.org/feeds/ Oggcast] - Bi-weekly audiocast from the Software Freedom Law Center, New York. Until 2011-08.<br />
* [http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices Open Voices] - Interview audiocast by the Linux Foundation, featuring interviews with guests like Linus Torvalds, open source people from Mozilla etc.<br />
* [http://jamespurser.com.au/blog/almost-six-years-ago-i-started-linux-australia-update Linux Australia Update]. Until 2006.<br />
* [http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator:%22chess%20griffin%22&usort=date Linux Reality Podcast]. [http://www.linuxreality.com/ Until 2008-03.]<br />
* [http://www.lugradio.org/ LugRadio] - Until 2008.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisCasts&diff=13023VorbisCasts2011-09-12T21:06:03Z<p>Gsauthof: oggcast is discontinued</p>
<hr />
<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to subscribe to an audiocast (also known as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast netcast or podcast]), not to the audiocast's main homepage. We don't link directly to the feed url because they tend to move around, because the audiocasts like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these audiocasts still use.<br />
<br />
== Active ==<br />
* [http://deimhart.net/ Deimhart] - German language audiocast about Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source which got a European Podcast Award in 2011.<br />
* [http://faif.us/ Free as in Freedom] - Legal aspects of free software by the hosts of the discontinued Software Freedom Law Center audiocast<br />
* [http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ Linux Outlaws] - Weekly audiocast about releases, news (including MS and Apple watch), interviews and reviews.<br />
* [http://blog.radiotux.de/podcasts/ Radio Tux] - Audiocasts from the german Linux news radio<br />
* [http://ratholeradio.org/ Rathole Radio] - Free music audiocast, i.e. mainly featuring music licensed under the Creative Commons license<br />
* [http://www.tuxradar.com/podcast TuxRadar] - Weekly audiocast about Linux related news, releases and opinionated discussions.<br />
<br />
== Finished ==<br />
Audiocasts that are still available but do not produce new episodes.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/rss/ NerdTV] - Interview audiocast with famous guests from computer/internet history (e.g. the 'inventor of TCP'). Sponsored bei PBS. Until 2006-04.<br />
* [http://www.softwarefreedom.org/feeds/ Oggcast] - Bi-weekly audiocast from the Software Freedom Law Center, New York. Until 2011-08.<br />
* [http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices Open Voices] - Interview audiocast by the Linux Foundation, featuring interviews with guests like Linus Torvalds, open source people from Mozilla etc.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisCasts&diff=13022VorbisCasts2011-09-12T20:46:26Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Active */ rathole radio, tux raio, oggcast</p>
<hr />
<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to subscribe to an audiocast (= podcast), not to the audiocast's main homepage. We don't link directly to the feed url because they tend to move around, because the audiocasts like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these audiocasts still use.<br />
<br />
== Active ==<br />
* [http://deimhart.net/ Deimhart] - German language audiocast about Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source which got a European Podcast Award in 2011.<br />
* [http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ Linux Outlaws] - Weekly audiocast about releases, news (including MS and Apple watch), interviews and reviews.<br />
* [http://www.softwarefreedom.org/feeds/ Oggcast] - Bi-weekly audiocast from the Software Freedom Law Center, New York<br />
* [http://blog.radiotux.de/podcasts/ Radio Tux] - Audiocasts from the german Linux news radio<br />
* [http://ratholeradio.org/ Rathole Radio] - Free music audiocast, i.e. mainly featuring music licensed under the Creative Commons license<br />
* [http://www.tuxradar.com/podcast TuxRadar] - Weekly audiocast about Linux related news, releases and opinionated discussions.<br />
<br />
== Finished ==<br />
Audiocasts that are still available but do not produce new episodes.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/rss/ NerdTV] - Interview audiocast with famous guests from computer/internet history (e.g. the 'inventor of TCP'). Sponsored bei PBS.<br />
* [http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices Open Voices] - Interview audiocast by the Linux Foundation, featuring interviews with guests like Linus Torvalds, open source people from Mozilla etc.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisStreams&diff=13021VorbisStreams2011-09-11T22:22:46Z<p>Gsauthof: space</p>
<hr />
<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to listen to a stream, not to the station's main homepage. We don't link directly to the stream because they tend to move around, because the stations like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these stations still use.<br />
<br />
== Automatically updated stream directories ==<br />
<br />
* [http://dir.xiph.org/ Icecast directory], The official xiph.org stream directory.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.musicgoal.com/stations/application-ogg/ Musicgoal], Provides a directory of Ogg Vorbis streams.<br />
<br />
* [http://radio.indymedia.org/ Radio Indymedia], Promotes open-publishing with an aggregated stream list. Identifies Ogg Vorbis streams.<br />
<br />
== Live streams ==<br />
<br />
* [http://mmrmedia.xs4all.nl/backlash/ BBR] Backstreet Backlash Records, Rotterdam, The Netherlands.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.bermudafunk.org/ Bermudafunk] Independent radio for the Rhein/Neckar-region, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.hot.ee/bluegrassradio/ BlueGrassRadio 108] 24h Bluegrass & Related Music - Tallinn, Estonia<br />
<br />
* [http://syntag.net/brasill/ Brazillbient Lounge] easy listening for punk rockers.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.rozhlas.cz/audio/vysilani/ &#268;eský Roz&zwj;hlas] three public-radio channels, Czech Republic.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.cjsw.com/listen.html CJSW] University of Calgary student radio, Calgary, Alberta, Canada.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.danceradio.cz DANCE RADIO CZ] dance radio channels, Czech Republic.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.dradio.de/wir/ogg Deutschlandradio] - Germany's nationwide public radio, broadcasting three channels: Deutschlandfunk (news, politics), DeutschlandRadio Kultur (culture, classical music), DRadio Wissen (science)<br />
<br />
* [http://edgefm.com.au/ Edge FM] 102.1 FM contemporary music from seventies to current, Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia.<br />
<br />
* [http://ebmradio.de EBM Radio] futurepop and industrial music, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://radio.full-vibes.com/ FullVibes] underground techno, hardtek, breakbeat, jungle, and drumnbass radio.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.hbr1.com/ HBR1] music on Futurenet, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.radiohertz.de/beta-site/livestream/ Hertz 87,9] College Radio, University of Bielefed, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://kalx.berkeley.edu/ KALX-FM] University of California, College Radio, Berkeley, California, USA. <br />
<br />
* [http://www.kdvs.org/ KDVS-FM] Freeform radio, Davis, California, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.kohina.com/ Kohina] plays soundtracks of C64 and Atari games.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.kpcw.org/listen KPCW-FM] community radio news and talk, Park City, Utah, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.krcl.org/listenlive.htm KRCL-FM] community radio, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.radio1190.org/netcast.html KVCU-AM] Radio 1190, Independent Music, Boulder, Colorado, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://lora924.de/?page_id=7853 LORA München] talk radio, Munich, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.m945.de/ M94.5] student radio, Munich, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://magnatune.com/info/faq_streaming Magnatune] stream of the Magnatune label music library, requires subscription fee, Berkeley, California, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.omroepvenray.nl/ Omroep Venray] local public radio station, Venray, Netherlands.<br />
<br />
* [http://loudcity.com/stations/party107/files/show/listen.html Party107] 100% commercial-free Internet radio, Nixa, Missouri, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.helsinki.at/ Radio Helsinki] freeform and variety music, Graz, Austria.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.sky-radio.fm/ Sky Radio] Russian-language popular radio station, Estonia.<br />
<br />
* [http://tilos.hu/ Tilos Radio] public non-mainstream radio in Budapest, Hungary.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.urgent.fm/ URGent Radio] student radio, Gent, Vlaanderen, Belgium.<br />
<br />
* [http://urn1350.net/listenlive URN 1350-AM] student radio, Nottingham, United Kingdom.<br />
<br />
* [http://stream.wbai.org/ WBAI-FM] part of the Pacifica Foundation, community radio, New York, New York, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wbur.org/listen/ WBUR-FM] public radio news and talk, Boston, Massachusetts, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wcbn.org/listen.html WCBN-FM] University of Michigan student radio, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wclv.com/page.php?pageID=64 WCLV-FM] classical music, Cleveland, Ohio, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://theclassicalstation.org/internet.shtml WCPE-FM] classical music, Wake Forest, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wfmu.org/ssaudionet.shtml WFMU-FM] freeform radio, Jersey City, New Jersey, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wknc.org/listen.php WKNC-FM] North Carolina State University student radio, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wrct.org/ WRCT-FM] Carnegie Mellon University student radio, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wscafm.org/ WSCA-FM] community radio, Portsmouth, New Hampshire, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wsia.fm WSIA-FM] CUNY student radio, Staten Island, New York, New York, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wuml.org/webcast.php WUML-FM] college radio, Lowell, Massachusetts, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wxdu.org/listen/index.html WXDU-FM] Duke University student radio, Durham, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wxyc.org/listen/online WXYC-FM] University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill student radio, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
== Discontinued streams ==<br />
<br />
These streams are no longer working; they are mentioned for historical interest.<br />
<br />
* [http://support.bbc.co.uk/ogg/ BBC test stream] offline since 2003-01-03.<br />
<br />
* [http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freeradiolinux/ Free radio Linux] speech synthesizer reading the Linux source code, offline since mid-2004.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.liberationradio.net/ San Francisco Liberation Radio] was forcibly taken offline by the United States Marshalls and FCC on 2003-10-25.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.sluchaj.com/ Radio Słuchaj] Poland. offline since 2006-12-31 <br />
<br />
* [http://www.cbc.ca/listen/ogg.html CBC Radio One & Two] public radio, Toronto, Canada.<br />
<br />
* [http://fm4.amd.co.at/ FM4] Unofficial stream of FM4 Austria - offline since 2010<br />
<br />
[[Category:Vorbis]]</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisStreams&diff=13020VorbisStreams2011-09-11T22:21:39Z<p>Gsauthof: removed a set of links, where the project is out of business or no ogg vorbis streams are available (and it is not clear if they were supported in the past)</p>
<hr />
<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to listen to a stream, not to the station's main homepage. We don't link directly to the stream because they tend to move around, because the stations like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these stations still use.<br />
<br />
== Automatically updated stream directories ==<br />
<br />
* [http://dir.xiph.org/ Icecast directory], The official xiph.org stream directory.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.musicgoal.com/stations/application-ogg/ Musicgoal], Provides a directory of Ogg Vorbis streams.<br />
<br />
* [http://radio.indymedia.org/ Radio Indymedia], Promotes open-publishing with an aggregated stream list. Identifies Ogg Vorbis streams.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Live streams ==<br />
<br />
* [http://mmrmedia.xs4all.nl/backlash/ BBR] Backstreet Backlash Records, Rotterdam, The Netherlands.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.bermudafunk.org/ Bermudafunk] Independent radio for the Rhein/Neckar-region, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.hot.ee/bluegrassradio/ BlueGrassRadio 108] 24h Bluegrass & Related Music - Tallinn, Estonia<br />
<br />
* [http://syntag.net/brasill/ Brazillbient Lounge] easy listening for punk rockers.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.rozhlas.cz/audio/vysilani/ &#268;eský Roz&zwj;hlas] three public-radio channels, Czech Republic.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.cjsw.com/listen.html CJSW] University of Calgary student radio, Calgary, Alberta, Canada.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.danceradio.cz DANCE RADIO CZ] dance radio channels, Czech Republic.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.dradio.de/wir/ogg Deutschlandradio] - Germany's nationwide public radio, broadcasting three channels: Deutschlandfunk (news, politics), DeutschlandRadio Kultur (culture, classical music), DRadio Wissen (science)<br />
<br />
* [http://edgefm.com.au/ Edge FM] 102.1 FM contemporary music from seventies to current, Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia.<br />
<br />
* [http://ebmradio.de EBM Radio] futurepop and industrial music, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://radio.full-vibes.com/ FullVibes] underground techno, hardtek, breakbeat, jungle, and drumnbass radio.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.hbr1.com/ HBR1] music on Futurenet, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.radiohertz.de/beta-site/livestream/ Hertz 87,9] College Radio, University of Bielefed, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://kalx.berkeley.edu/ KALX-FM] University of California, College Radio, Berkeley, California, USA. <br />
<br />
* [http://www.kdvs.org/ KDVS-FM] Freeform radio, Davis, California, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.kohina.com/ Kohina] plays soundtracks of C64 and Atari games.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.kpcw.org/listen KPCW-FM] community radio news and talk, Park City, Utah, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.krcl.org/listenlive.htm KRCL-FM] community radio, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.radio1190.org/netcast.html KVCU-AM] Radio 1190, Independent Music, Boulder, Colorado, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://lora924.de/?page_id=7853 LORA München] talk radio, Munich, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.m945.de/ M94.5] student radio, Munich, Germany.<br />
<br />
* [http://magnatune.com/info/faq_streaming Magnatune] stream of the Magnatune label music library, requires subscription fee, Berkeley, California, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.omroepvenray.nl/ Omroep Venray] local public radio station, Venray, Netherlands.<br />
<br />
* [http://loudcity.com/stations/party107/files/show/listen.html Party107] 100% commercial-free Internet radio, Nixa, Missouri, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.helsinki.at/ Radio Helsinki] freeform and variety music, Graz, Austria.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.sky-radio.fm/ Sky Radio] Russian-language popular radio station, Estonia.<br />
<br />
* [http://tilos.hu/ Tilos Radio] public non-mainstream radio in Budapest, Hungary.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.urgent.fm/ URGent Radio] student radio, Gent, Vlaanderen, Belgium.<br />
<br />
* [http://urn1350.net/listenlive URN 1350-AM] student radio, Nottingham, United Kingdom.<br />
<br />
* [http://stream.wbai.org/ WBAI-FM] part of the Pacifica Foundation, community radio, New York, New York, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wbur.org/listen/ WBUR-FM] public radio news and talk, Boston, Massachusetts, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wcbn.org/listen.html WCBN-FM] University of Michigan student radio, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wclv.com/page.php?pageID=64 WCLV-FM] classical music, Cleveland, Ohio, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://theclassicalstation.org/internet.shtml WCPE-FM] classical music, Wake Forest, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wfmu.org/ssaudionet.shtml WFMU-FM] freeform radio, Jersey City, New Jersey, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wknc.org/listen.php WKNC-FM] North Carolina State University student radio, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wrct.org/ WRCT-FM] Carnegie Mellon University student radio, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wscafm.org/ WSCA-FM] community radio, Portsmouth, New Hampshire, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://wsia.fm WSIA-FM] CUNY student radio, Staten Island, New York, New York, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wuml.org/webcast.php WUML-FM] college radio, Lowell, Massachusetts, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wxdu.org/listen/index.html WXDU-FM] Duke University student radio, Durham, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.wxyc.org/listen/online WXYC-FM] University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill student radio, Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA.<br />
<br />
== Discontinued streams ==<br />
<br />
These streams are no longer working; they are mentioned for historical interest.<br />
<br />
* [http://support.bbc.co.uk/ogg/ BBC test stream] offline since 2003-01-03.<br />
<br />
* [http://radioqualia.va.com.au/freeradiolinux/ Free radio Linux] speech synthesizer reading the Linux source code, offline since mid-2004.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.liberationradio.net/ San Francisco Liberation Radio] was forcibly taken offline by the United States Marshalls and FCC on 2003-10-25.<br />
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* [http://www.sluchaj.com/ Radio Słuchaj] Poland. offline since 2006-12-31 <br />
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* [http://www.cbc.ca/listen/ogg.html CBC Radio One & Two] public radio, Toronto, Canada.<br />
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* [http://fm4.amd.co.at/ FM4] Unofficial stream of FM4 Austria - offline since 2010<br />
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[[Category:Vorbis]]</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisCasts&diff=13019VorbisCasts2011-09-11T12:41:06Z<p>Gsauthof: typo</p>
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<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to subscribe to an audiocast (= podcast), not to the audiocast's main homepage. We don't link directly to the feed url because they tend to move around, because the audiocasts like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these audiocasts still use.<br />
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== Active ==<br />
* [http://deimhart.net/ Deimhart] - A german language audiocast about Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source which got a European Podcast Award in 2011.<br />
* [http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ Linux Outlaws] - A weekly audiocast about releases, news (including MS and Apple watch), interviews and reviews.<br />
* [http://www.tuxradar.com/podcast TuxRadar] - A weekly audiocast about Linux related news, releases and opinionated discussions.<br />
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== Finished ==<br />
Audiocasts that are still available but do not produce new episodes.<br />
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* [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/rss/ NerdTV] - Interview audiocast with famous guests from computer/internet history (e.g. the 'inventor of TCP'). Sponsored bei PBS.<br />
* [http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices Open Voices] - Interview audiocast by the Linux Foundation, featuring interviews with guests like Linus Torvalds, open source people from Mozilla etc.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=Vorbis&diff=13018Vorbis2011-09-11T12:38:43Z<p>Gsauthof: /* More information */ developer infor allready linked from the Ogg page, linked audiocast page</p>
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<div>'''Vorbis''' is a patent-clear, fully open, general purpose audio encoding format standard that rivals or even surpasses the 'upcoming' generation of proprietary codecs ([[Wikipedia:Advanced Audio Coding|AAC]] and [[Wikipedia:TwinVQ|TwinVQ]], also known as VQF). There is no raw Vorbis stream defined, instead the Vorbis codec is typically used in the [[Ogg]] container format for audio files. Because for a long time the Ogg container was quasi exclusive for Vorbis people often refer to it as 'Ogg Vorbis'. Later the FLAC audio codec as well as the video codecs Theora and Dirac began to be used inside Ogg too. In 2010 the [[WebM]] format was defined using the Vorbis codec inside the WebM container.<br />
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libvorbis, a BSD-licensed source implementation of Vorbis as a library is available; See the [http://xiph.org/vorbis/ Ogg Vorbis page] for documentation, downloads and distribution terms.<br />
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Many hard- and software players support Ogg Vorbis; see [http://www.vorbis.com/ vorbis.com] or the links below for a list of all the players we know about.<br />
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== More information ==<br />
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* [[Vorbis Hardware]]: List of hardware-players supporting Ogg Vorbis<br />
* [[Vorbis Software Players]]: List of media players that can play Ogg Vorbis<br />
* [[Vorbis Software Encoders]]: List of libvorbis frontends<br />
* [[Vorbis Decoders]]: List of decoders (e.g. Xiph, Tremor, JOrbis, etc)<br />
* [[Vorbis Encoders]]: List of encoders (e.g. Xiph, aoTuV, GT, vorbis-java)<br />
* [[Vorbis-tools]]: Reference tools maintained by Xiph.org<br />
* [[Games that use Vorbis]]: List of games using Ogg Vorbis<br />
* [[VorbisStreams]]: Stations streaming with the [[Vorbis]] codec<br />
* [[VorbisCasts]]: Audiocasts publishing Ogg [[Vorbis]] feeds<br />
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== External links ==<br />
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* [http://www.vorbis.com/ Vorbis.com]<br />
* [[Wikipedia: Vorbis]]<br />
* [http://www.rjamorim.com/test/multiformat128/results.html 128kbps public listening test]<br />
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=35438 80kbps personal listening test]<br />
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=36465 180kbps personal listening test with classical music]<br />
* [http://www.maresweb.de/listening-tests/mf-128-1/results.htm 128kbps public listening test]<br />
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[[Category:Vorbis]]</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=VorbisCasts&diff=13017VorbisCasts2011-09-11T12:34:36Z<p>Gsauthof: page analogous to VorbisStreams</p>
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<div>These links usually point to the page with instructions on how to subscribe to a audiocast (= podcast), not to the audiocast's main homepage. We don't link directly to the feed url because they tend to move around, because the audiocasts like having people visit their websites, and this way you can compare Vorbis with the other legacy proprietary codecs many of these audiocasts still use.<br />
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== Active ==<br />
* [http://deimhart.net/ Deimhart] - A german language audiocast about Linux, Ubuntu and Open Source which got a European Podcast Award in 2011.<br />
* [http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ Linux Outlaws] - A weekly audiocast about releases, news (including MS and Apple watch), interviews and reviews.<br />
* [http://www.tuxradar.com/podcast TuxRadar] - A weekly audiocast about Linux related news, releases and opinionated discussions.<br />
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== Finished ==<br />
Audiocasts that are still available but do not produce new episodes.<br />
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* [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/rss/ NerdTV] - Interview audiocast with famous guests from computer/internet history (e.g. the 'inventor' of TCP). Sponsored bei PBS.<br />
* [http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices Open Voices] - Interview audiocast by the Linux Foundation, featuring interviews with guests like Linus Torvalds, open source people from Mozilla etc.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/Flash&diff=12947PortablePlayers/Flash2011-08-09T09:46:01Z<p>Gsauthof: cleaned up introduction, make section for more convenient editing</p>
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<div>== Introduction ==<br />
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This page contains detailed descriptions of portable flash players supporting ogg vorbis playback. For an overview support matrix see the [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|Vorbis Native Support Table]] (the table concentrates on players which are still available in shops).<br />
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In each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
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== Flash Memory Storage ==<br />
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=== [http://www.archos.com/products/mp3_players/archos_30c_vision/index.html?country=us&lang=en Archos] Vision 30c ===<br />
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The Archos Vision 30c is a small almost credit-card sized lightweight portable audio and video player which is also able to record voice, display .txt files and tune into FM radio.<br />
It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC out of the box, but without displaying any tags. The Vision 30c is usable as mass storage USB device. The write rate is about 250 KiBi/s and the read rate is about 7 MiBi/s. Display backlight, video playback and FM radio introduce different kinds of very annoying high frequent background noise. In comparison with other portable players, the minimal possible volume level is very loud. As of 2011-07 there are no firmware upgrades available. The display is 3" large and very glossy. The device has one back button, an on/off switch and a touchscreen (non-capacitative) which is very stochastic. With a stylus (not included) it is like 2 times better usable but still very non-deterministic. The player is available with 4 GB and 8 GB internal flash memory.<br />
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=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
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=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
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=== Brazilian Market ===<br />
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It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives.<br />
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=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
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=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
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From the information below (see "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.<br />
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=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Cowon|Wikipedia article about Cowon and players]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:IAUDIO|Wikipedia article about Cowon iAudio Models]]<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays Ogg Vorbis, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.philips.co.uk/c/mp3-and-mp4-players/gogear-muse-16-gb-sa3mus16s_02/prd Philips GoGear Muse] ===<br />
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The ''GoGear Muse'' is a portable audio/video player that is advertised to support both Ogg Vorbis and FLAC out of the box. It is available with 8 GB or 16 internal memory and it has a microSD slot. The size of the device is comparable to a smart phone (3.2" display) and it weights 105 g.<br />
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Note that the ''Philips GoGear Ariaz'' '''does not''' support Ogg Vorbis. But it plays FLAC encoded files.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
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=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and one charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
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The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
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The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
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=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
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=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
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=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
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=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
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:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
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=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
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=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
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=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
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=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/Flash&diff=12946PortablePlayers/Flash2011-08-09T09:31:46Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Philips GoGear Muse */ typo</p>
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<div>This page contains detailed descriptions of portable flash players supporting ogg vorbis playback. For an overview support matrix see the [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|Vorbis Native Support Table]].<br />
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In each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
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<i>From the information below (see the "Chinese MP4" and "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.</i><br />
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<i>It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives. </i><br />
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=== [http://www.archos.com/products/mp3_players/archos_30c_vision/index.html?country=us&lang=en Archos] Vision 30c ===<br />
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The Archos Vision 30c is a small almost credit-card sized lightweight portable audio and video player which is also able to record voice, display .txt files and tune into FM radio.<br />
It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC out of the box, but without displaying any tags. The Vision 30c is usable as mass storage USB device. The write rate is about 250 KiBi/s and the read rate is about 7 MiBi/s. Display backlight, video playback and FM radio introduce different kinds of very annoying high frequent background noise. In comparison with other portable players, the minimal possible volume level is very loud. As of 2011-07 there are no firmware upgrades available. The display is 3" large and very glossy. The device has one back button, an on/off switch and a touchscreen (non-capacitative) which is very stochastic. With a stylus (not included) it is like 2 times better usable but still very non-deterministic. The player is available with 4 GB and 8 GB internal flash memory.<br />
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=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
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=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
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=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
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=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
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=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Cowon|Wikipedia article about Cowon and players]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:IAUDIO|Wikipedia article about Cowon iAudio Models]]<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays Ogg Vorbis, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.philips.co.uk/c/mp3-and-mp4-players/gogear-muse-16-gb-sa3mus16s_02/prd Philips GoGear Muse] ===<br />
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The ''GoGear Muse'' is a portable audio/video player that is advertised to support both Ogg Vorbis and FLAC out of the box. It is available with 8 GB or 16 internal memory and it has a microSD slot. The size of the device is comparable to a smart phone (3.2" display) and it weights 105 g.<br />
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Note that the ''Philips GoGear Ariaz'' '''does not''' support Ogg Vorbis. But it plays FLAC encoded files.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
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=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and one charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
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The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
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The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
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=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
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=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
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=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
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=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
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:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
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=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
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=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
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=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
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=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers&diff=12945PortablePlayers2011-08-09T09:30:26Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Portable Vorbis Native Support Table */ linked GoGear</p>
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<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
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When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
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This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
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* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
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== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 145 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! J3<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 64 h<br />
| 75g weight, BT, 3.3"<br />
| 250 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! i.Beat veo<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
| 3", .mkv<br />
| 60 €<br />
| yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Archos Vision 30c|Vision 30c]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Philips GoGear Muse|GoGear Muse]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 105g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
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@wiki-admins: It looks like this mediawiki instance does not support nice table cell templates (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BitTorrent_clients#Operating_system_support this example]). The support for this table related features would really improve this table layout.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/Flash&diff=12944PortablePlayers/Flash2011-08-09T09:28:17Z<p>Gsauthof: Philips GoGear</p>
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<div>This page contains detailed descriptions of portable flash players supporting ogg vorbis playback. For an overview support matrix see the [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|Vorbis Native Support Table]].<br />
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In each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
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<i>From the information below (see the "Chinese MP4" and "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.</i><br />
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<i>It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives. </i><br />
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== Flash Memory Storage ==<br />
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=== [http://www.archos.com/products/mp3_players/archos_30c_vision/index.html?country=us&lang=en Archos] Vision 30c ===<br />
<br />
The Archos Vision 30c is a small almost credit-card sized lightweight portable audio and video player which is also able to record voice, display .txt files and tune into FM radio.<br />
It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC out of the box, but without displaying any tags. The Vision 30c is usable as mass storage USB device. The write rate is about 250 KiBi/s and the read rate is about 7 MiBi/s. Display backlight, video playback and FM radio introduce different kinds of very annoying high frequent background noise. In comparison with other portable players, the minimal possible volume level is very loud. As of 2011-07 there are no firmware upgrades available. The display is 3" large and very glossy. The device has one back button, an on/off switch and a touchscreen (non-capacitative) which is very stochastic. With a stylus (not included) it is like 2 times better usable but still very non-deterministic. The player is available with 4 GB and 8 GB internal flash memory.<br />
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=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
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=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
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=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
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=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
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=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Cowon|Wikipedia article about Cowon and players]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:IAUDIO|Wikipedia article about Cowon iAudio Models]]<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays Ogg Vorbis, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.philips.co.uk/c/mp3-and-mp4-players/gogear-muse-16-gb-sa3mus16s_02/prd Philips GoGear Muse] ===<br />
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The ''Gogear Muse'' is a portable audio/video player that is advertised to support both Ogg Vorbis and FLAC out of the box. It is available with 8 GB or 16 internal memory and it has a microSD slot. The size of the device is comparable to a smart phone (3.2" display) and it weights 105 g.<br />
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Note that the ''Philips GoGear Ariaz'' '''does not''' support Ogg Vorbis. But it plays FLAC encoded files.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
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=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and one charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
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The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
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The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
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=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
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=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
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=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
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=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
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:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
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=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
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=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
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=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
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=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers&diff=12895PortablePlayers2011-07-08T21:32:31Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Portable Vorbis Native Support Table */ extra features</p>
<hr />
<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
<br />
This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
<br />
== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 145 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! J3<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 64 h<br />
| 75g weight, BT, 3.3"<br />
| 250 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! i.Beat veo<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
| 3", .mkv<br />
| 60 €<br />
| yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Archos Vision 30c|Vision 30c]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! GoGear Muse<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 105g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
<br />
@wiki-admins: It looks like this mediawiki instance does not support nice table cell templates (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BitTorrent_clients#Operating_system_support this example]). The support for this table related features would really improve this table layout.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers&diff=12894PortablePlayers2011-07-08T21:29:43Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Portable Vorbis Native Support Table */ ibeat veo</p>
<hr />
<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
<br />
This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
<br />
== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 145 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! J3<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 64 h<br />
| 75g weight, BT, 3.3"<br />
| 250 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! i.Beat veo<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 60 €<br />
| yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Archos Vision 30c|Vision 30c]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! GoGear Muse<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 105g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
<br />
@wiki-admins: It looks like this mediawiki instance does not support nice table cell templates (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BitTorrent_clients#Operating_system_support this example]). The support for this table related features would really improve this table layout.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers&diff=12893PortablePlayers2011-07-08T21:11:04Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Portable Vorbis Native Support Table */ cowon j3</p>
<hr />
<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
<br />
This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
<br />
== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 145 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! J3<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 64 h<br />
| 75g weight, BT, 3.3"<br />
| 250 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Archos Vision 30c|Vision 30c]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! GoGear Muse<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 105g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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<hr />
<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
<br />
This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
<br />
== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 145 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Archos Vision 30c|Vision 30c]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! GoGear Muse<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 90g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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<hr />
<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
<br />
This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
<br />
== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Archos Vision 30c|Vision 30c]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! GoGear Muse<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 90g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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<hr />
<div>This page contains detailed descriptions of portable flash players supporting ogg vorbis playback. For an overview support matrix see the [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|Vorbis Native Support Table]].<br />
<br />
In each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
<br />
<i>From the information below (see the "Chinese MP4" and "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.</i><br />
<br />
<i>It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives. </i><br />
<br />
== Flash Memory Storage ==<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.archos.com/products/mp3_players/archos_30c_vision/index.html?country=us&lang=en Archos] Vision 30c ===<br />
<br />
The Archos Vision 30c is a small almost credit-card sized lightweight portable audio and video player which is also able to record voice, display .txt files and tune into FM radio.<br />
It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC out of the box, but without displaying any tags. The Vision 30c is usable as mass storage USB device. The write rate is about 250 KiBi/s and the read rate is about 7 MiBi/s. Display backlight, video playback and FM radio introduce different kinds of very annoying high frequent background noise. In comparison with other portable players, the minimal possible volume level is very loud. As of 2011-07 there are no firmware upgrades available. The display is 3" large and very glossy. The device has one back button, an on/off switch and a touchscreen (non-capacitative) which is very stochastic. With a stylus (not included) it is like 2 times better usable but still very non-deterministic. The player is available with 4 GB and 8 GB internal flash memory.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
<br />
=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
<br />
=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
<br />
=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Cowon|Wikipedia article about Cowon and players]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:IAUDIO|Wikipedia article about Cowon iAudio Models]]<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays OGG, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
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=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and one charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
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The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
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The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
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=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
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=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
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=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
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=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
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:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
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=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
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=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
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=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
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=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/Flash&diff=12889PortablePlayers/Flash2011-07-08T20:43:06Z<p>Gsauthof: /* SanDisk Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze */ typo</p>
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<div>This page contains detailed descriptions of portable flash players supporting ogg vorbis playback. For an overview support matrix see the [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|Vorbis Native Support Table]].<br />
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In each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
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<i>From the information below (see the "Chinese MP4" and "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.</i><br />
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<i>It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives. </i><br />
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== Flash Memory Storage ==<br />
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=== [http://www.archos.com/products/mp3_players/archos_30c_vision/index.html?country=us&lang=en Archos] Vision 30c ===<br />
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The Archos Vision 30c is a small almost credit-card sized lightweight portable audio and video player which is also able to record voice, display .txt files and tune into FM radio.<br />
It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC out of the box, but without displaying any tags. The Vision 30c is usable as mass storage USB device, but the write rate is only about 250 KiBi/s (read rate is about 7 MiBi/s). Display backlight, video playback and FM radio introduce different kinds of very annoying high frequent background noise. As of 2011-07 there are no firmware upgrades available. The display is 3" large and it is almost like a mirror. The device has one back button, an on/off switch and a touchscreen (non-capacitative) which is very stochastic. With a stylus (not included) it is like 2 times better usable but still very non-deterministic. The player is available with 4 GB and 8 GB internal flash memory.<br />
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=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
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=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
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=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
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=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
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=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Cowon|Wikipedia article about Cowon and players]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:IAUDIO|Wikipedia article about Cowon iAudio Models]]<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays OGG, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
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=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and one charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
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The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
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The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
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=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
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=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
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=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
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=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
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:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
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=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
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=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
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=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
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=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers&diff=12888PortablePlayers2011-07-08T19:08:33Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Portable Vorbis Native Support Table */ linked vision 30c</p>
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<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
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When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
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This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
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* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
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== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
| 28g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Archos Vision 30c|Vision 30c]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! GoGear Muse<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 90g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
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@wiki-admins: It looks like this mediawiki instance does not support nice table cell templates (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BitTorrent_clients#Operating_system_support this example]). The support for this table related features would really improve this table layout.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/Flash&diff=12887PortablePlayers/Flash2011-07-08T19:06:13Z<p>Gsauthof: added Archos Vision 30c</p>
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<div>This page contains detailed descriptions of portable flash players supporting ogg vorbis playback. For an overview support matrix see the [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|Vorbis Native Support Table]].<br />
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In each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
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<i>From the information below (see the "Chinese MP4" and "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.</i><br />
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<i>It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives. </i><br />
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== Flash Memory Storage ==<br />
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=== [http://www.archos.com/products/mp3_players/archos_30c_vision/index.html?country=us&lang=en Archos] Vision 30c ===<br />
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The Archos Vision 30c is a small almost credit-card sized lightweight portable audio and video player which is also able to record voice, display .txt files and tune into FM radio.<br />
It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC out of the box, but without displaying any tags. The Vision 30c is usable as mass storage USB device, but the write rate is only about 250 KiBi/s (read rate is about 7 MiBi/s). Display backlight, video playback and FM radio introduce different kinds of very annoying high frequent background noise. As of 2011-07 there are no firmware upgrades available. The display is 3" large and it is almost like a mirror. The device has one back button, an on/off switch and a touchscreen (non-capacitative) which is very stochastic. With a stylus (not included) it is like 2 times better usable but still very non-deterministic. The player is available with 4 GB and 8 GB internal flash memory.<br />
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=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
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=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
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=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
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=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
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=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Cowon|Wikipedia article about Cowon and players]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:IAUDIO|Wikipedia article about Cowon iAudio Models]]<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays OGG, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
<br />
=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and on charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
<br />
The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
<br />
The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
<br />
See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
<br />
=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
<br />
=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
<br />
:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
<br />
=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
<br />
=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers&diff=12886PortablePlayers2011-07-08T18:42:51Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Portable Vorbis Native Support Table */ vision 30c</p>
<hr />
<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
<br />
This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
<br />
== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
| 28g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Vision 30c<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 53 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! GoGear Muse<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 90g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
<br />
@wiki-admins: It looks like this mediawiki instance does not support nice table cell templates (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BitTorrent_clients#Operating_system_support this example]). The support for this table related features would really improve this table layout.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers&diff=12885PortablePlayers2011-07-08T18:36:39Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Portable Vorbis Native Support Table */ GoGear Muse has microSD slot</p>
<hr />
<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
<br />
This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
<br />
== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
| 28g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 €<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! GoGear Muse<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| microSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 24 h<br />
| 90g, video<br />
| 170 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2011.07<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 €<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! EnVivo<br />
! 4GB MP4<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| ?<br />
| 4<br />
| MicroSD max 8GB<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 74 g<br />
| 30 €<br />
| bought in 2010.08<br />
|}<br />
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@wiki-admins: It looks like this mediawiki instance does not support nice table cell templates (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BitTorrent_clients#Operating_system_support this example]). The support for this table related features would really improve this table layout.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=Vorbis_Hardware&diff=12800Vorbis Hardware2011-02-08T08:58:13Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Consumer products */ the Mobile Phones section already includes this information</p>
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<div>This is a list of hardware of all categories, from chipsets to ready-to-use products, that support Ogg [[Vorbis]].<br />
<br />
Hardware support status for Ogg Vorbis is relatively good, you can choose between a huge number of mobile flash players, many HDD based players and a respectable number of Hi-Fi components. More than 50 different companies offer a total of more than a hundred products for virtually every application, there is even a knife that can play Ogg Vorbis now ;-). If you can't find a suitable player come back next week -- new products are added on a weekly basis, as many companies are working to support Vorbis on their hardware.<br />
<br />
If you know of any hardware or projects that are not yet mentioned here, please add them to the list.<br />
<br />
== Consumer products ==<br />
<br />
The following music players support Ogg Vorbis either out of the box or after a firmware upgrade:<br />
<br />
* [[PortablePlayers|Portable players (mobile players)]]:<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
:[[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
* [[StaticPlayers|Static players (installed players)]]:<br />
:[[StaticPlayers#Hi-Fi_components|Hi-Fi components]]<br />
:[[StaticPlayers#Car_Audio|Car Audio]]<br />
:[[StaticPlayers#Media_Storage|Media Storage]]<br />
<br />
For hardware that is able to run third-party software (such as PDAs and video game consoles), please visit [[VorbisSoftwarePlayers]].<br />
<br />
== Non-consumer products ==<br />
<br />
This is Vorbis in Silicon, meaning chips from which actual consumer products can be built.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.vlsi.fi/ VLSI Solution Oy]: VLSI provides two Ogg Vorbis capable chips.<br />
<br />
:[http://www.vlsi.fi/en/products/vs1000.shtml VS1000] is an Ogg Vorbis decoder and controller chip based on a 16-bit DSP.<br />
<br />
:[http://www.vlsi.fi/en/products/vs1053.shtml VS1053] is a low-power "MP3 decoder" chip based on the same DSP. What makes the IC unique is that it can both decode and [http://www.vlsi.fi/en/support/software/vs10xxapplications.html encode] Ogg Vorbis files. There are several different quality settings to choose from varying from narrowband speech to high-quality stereo music.<br />
<br />
;[http://oggonachip.sourceforge.net/ Ogg On A Chip]: A hardware/software implementation with a good report showing how to make FPGAs and the like to decode Vorbis streams.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.finearch.com/english FineArch]: FineArch, Inc. developed a hardware core and control software for decoding Vorbis. This technology can be integrated into portable players or cell phones, and since it runs at only 12MHz, it uses very little battery power. It supports files up to 64Kb/s, but could be scaled to 16MHz and 128Kb/s, at the expense of battery life. For more information, see FineArch&#x2019;s [http://www.finearch.com/english/news/pr_20030715/pr_20030715.htm press release].<br />
<br />
;[http://www.mcslogic.com/ MCS Logic]: MCS Logic creates single chip decoders that can play Ogg Vorbis. They supply the Vorbis decoding chips for Havin and Freemax.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.telechips.com Telechips]: Telechips has developed the TCC72x, a single chip decoder that can play Vorbis. The TCC72x series is based on on an ARM940T core, and it is used widely in Korea for players such as Iops or MobiBlu.<br />
<br />
;[http://www.tamulsite.co.kr Tamul Multimedia]: Tamul Multimedia manufactures decoding chips for Samsung. They claim they have Ogg Vorbis decoding firmware, according to [http://www.dt.co.kr/print.html?gisaid=2003031002011367704002 <em>The Digital Times</em>] (Korean).<br />
<br />
;[http://www.sigmatel.com/ SigmaTel]: SigmaTel makes several chips which support Ogg Vorbis decoding. After this quote years ago, we knew it was only a matter of time:<br />
<blockquote>"<i>I talked to Deborah Clark, product marketing engineer for audio chipmaker Sigmatel out of Austin, Tex. She is the company's expert in audio decoders. She says there is a growing base of support for Ogg Vorbis. "We can't keep paying these high licensing fees for this. Manufacturers would flock to something that's free." </i></blockquote><br />
:from a 2000 [http://www.forbes.com/2000/09/18/dvorak_index.html column in Forbes]<br />
<br />
:Some STMP3500-based devices supports Ogg Vorbis, but there are no notes about this on SigmaTel-website.<br />
<br />
:SigmaTel introduces the STMP3600 with support for Ogg Vorbis, MP3, AAC, WMA and more.[http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2005-10/artikel-5493211.asp]<br />
<br />
== See also ==<br />
* [[Theora Hardware]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Vorbis]]</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=Talk:Videos/A_Digital_Media_Primer_For_Geeks&diff=12564Talk:Videos/A Digital Media Primer For Geeks2010-09-24T17:41:05Z<p>Gsauthof: /* General discussion */ feed?</p>
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<div>Welcome to the discussion. <br />
<br />
To discuss the video, make an account and hit edit. Please feel free to point out errata, suggested additional resources, or just ask questions!<br />
<br />
<br />
==Introduction==<br />
<br />
==Analog vs Digital==<br />
<br />
==Raw (digital audio) meat==<br />
Don't forget when talking about higher sampling rates that frequency and temporal response are inherently linked. One often overlooked aspect of this is the value of higher sampling rates in presenting subtle differences in multi-channel timing (e.g. the stereo field). Even fairly uncritical listeners presented sample audio blind can notice this. --Chaboud<br />
<br />
:They aren't merely "technically linked". They're mathematically indistinguishable. If a system doesn't has a response beyond some frequency it also lacks time resolution beyond some point.<br />
:To the best of my knowledge a perceptually justified need for higher rates is not supported by the available science on the subject. Not only is there no real physiological mechanism proposed for this kind of sensitivity, well controlled blind listening tests don't support it— well controlled being key, loudspeakers can suffer from considerable non-linear effects including intermodulation, and having a lot of otherwise inaudible ultrasonics can produce audible distortion at lower frequencies. Another common error is running the DAC at different frequencies— with the obvious interactions with the reconstruction and analog filters. A correct test for determining the audibility differences of higher sample rates needs to use a single DAC stage at the highest frequency, re-sampling digitally to create the bandpass... etc. I'm not aware of any such test supporting a need for information beyond 24kHz. <br />
:I normally suggest to people looking for increased to look into acoustic holography techniques like higher-order ambisonics and wavefield synthesis. <br />
:The beyond 48kHz sampling subject subject has been [http://www.google.com/custom?domains=hydrogenaudio.org&q=96khz&sa=Google+Search&sitesearch=hydrogenaudio.org&client=pub-4544327213918729&forid=1&channel=7051718642&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&flav=0000&sig=6_g3ghDcS6bRpfcd&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A262%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.hydrogenaudio.org%2Fforums%2Flogo50.png%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.hydrogenaudio.org%3BFORID%3A1&hl=en discussed a number of times on hydrogen audio], I recommend reading the thread there. They are quite informative. Most audio groups out there online and off are not very scientifically oriented (e.g. evidence based)— HA is special because it is one of the few that are.--[[User:Gmaxwell|Gmaxwell]] 06:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Video vegetables (they're good for you!)==<br />
<br />
An interesting point is that the discussion of the linear segment in the normal display responses (e.g. sRGB) is incorrect, or at best incomplete, though I've coming up short on good citations for this, so Wikipedia remains uncorrected at this time.--[[User:Gmaxwell|Gmaxwell]] 05:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
Hi there, great tutorial, but in fact the most common DVD standard is 720 pixels by 480 pixels, with a pixel ratio of 0.9, yielding a device aspect ratio of 1.35. I understand that you're trying to simplify the lecture to 4:3 aspect (1.333) for newbies, I think this is ultimately misleading, since the vast majority of DVDs are not sampled at 704x480. --Dryo<br />
<br />
: Sort of-- the most common encoding is 720x480, but with the crop area set to 704x480; that's what the standard calls for (I was being sneaky when I said 'display resolution of 704x480'). Many software players ignore the crop rectangle and also display the horizontal overscan area. Many software encoders also just blindly encode 720x480 without setting the crop area. It is a source of *much* confusion. --[[User:Xiphmont|Monty]]<br />
<br />
::"The standard" here being— Rec. 601? Is there anything else? We should probably at least link [[Wikipedia:overscan]]. --[[User:Gmaxwell|Gmaxwell]] 13:13, 24 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
"''[...] most displays use [RGB] colors [...]''". Doesn't that sentence contradict this one : "''[...] video usually is represented as a [...] luma channel along with additional [...] chroma channels, the color''". I don't understand what "''position the chroma pixels''" means exactly. Are we talking of real points on a display ? Thanks, great video ! --[[User:Ledavulevogyre|Ledavulevogyre]] 13:59, 24 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Containers==<br />
<br />
==General discussion==<br />
<br />
The video hasn't yet been formally released but we have all the sites up early in order to get everything debugged... Feedback on site functionality prior to the official release would be very helpful. --[[User:Gmaxwell|Gmaxwell]] 15:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Released now, but still tell us about bugs :-) --[[User:Xiphmont|Monty]]<br />
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<br />
=== Atom/RSS feed ===<br />
<br />
Could not find an Atom/RSS feed for the video episodes. A videocast url with video-link enclosures would be ideal for getting future episodes. But even a announce-only feed would be convenient to track new episode releases. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 17:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=StaticPlayers&diff=12290StaticPlayers2010-08-20T10:19:30Z<p>Gsauthof: SPAM - Undo revision 12288 by 3qdesigns123 (Talk)</p>
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<div>== Introduction ==<br />
<br />
On this page you can find all static players that are known to support Vorbis. This includes Hi-Fi components such as CD/DVD players and car audio equipment. For hardware that is able to run third-party software (such as PDAs and video game consoles), please visit [[VorbisSoftwarePlayers]].<br />
<br />
== Hi-Fi components ==<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.playonhd.com/en/#info A.C.Ryan] PlayOn!HD ===<br />
:This player supports a lot of Audio and Video formats, and acts as a player and streamer, Network 10/100, Wifi 802.11b/g, NAS 3.5" SATA up to 1.5TB, 2x USB Host, Internet Radio, HDMI, UPnP client.<br />
<br />
=== [http://actiontec.com/products/tech/broadband/wdmp/wdmp_overview.html <del> Actiontec </del>] <del> Wireless Digital Media Player </del> ===<br />
'''Product doesn't exist anymore'''<br />
:This player is a streaming client for video, audio and images. It supports MP3, AC3, AAC, WAV, WMA, Vorbis and internet radio. Supported picture formats are JPEG, GIF, TIF, BMP and PNG. It can play back MPEG-1/-2/-4, Xvid, RMP4. It has RCA connectors, a digital output, supports HDTV and can surf the internet.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.adstech.com/ ADS Tech's] Media-Link ===<br />
:This is a streaming client that uses ethernet and WLAN for connecting. It has a composite, component and s-video out and sterea and S/PDIF out. It supports MPEG-1/-2/-4, DivX, Xvid, MOV, MP3, Vorbis, AC3, WMA, JPG, BMP, GIF. The server software seems to support only windows.<br />
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=== [http://www.arcamsolo.com/ ARCAM] DV137, DV139, Solo Movie 5.1 ===<br />
:These high-end British home cinema products are primarily DVD-Video and DVD-Audio playback devices. All support playback of Vorbis, MP3 and WMA files from CD-R and DVD-R discs. Other media supported includes SACD. Audio performance competes with dedicated high-end CD/DVD-A/SACD players whilst video can be upscaled to HD resolutions over HDMI. The DV137 and DV139 are player components whilst the Solo Movie 5.1 is an all-in-one system that includes a DAB/AM/FM radio (territory dependant), various auxiliary inputs and five channels of amplification (5 x 50W RMS into 8 Ohms).<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.buffalotech.com/ Buffalo's] PC-P3LWG/DVD ===<br />
:This product is a DVD player and streaming client with HDTV support. It has wireless and wired networking and a USB port. The media server software only runs on Windows (UPnP AV). It supports many formats: video (SVCD/DVD/DivX HD/Xvid/RealMedia/WMV HD), audio (MP3, Vorbis, WAV, AAC, WMA, AC3) and picture (JPG, GIF, BMP, TIF, PNG). It can be integrated with the NAS solution LinkStation/TeraStation for media storage such that no PC is required.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.cyberhome.com/ Cyberhome's] DVD 635s ===<br />
<br />
:According to this [http://www.dv-rec.de/test/player2005/635/635.html review(german)] on [http://www.dv-rec.de DV-REC], it plays Vorbis and has '''buggy''' Ogm Video-support. The sound quality appears to be very good(accordimg the review), but there is no special Vorbis point of view about sound quality in the review. Some users report troubling noises from the build in CD/DVD-device.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.digitaltechniques.com/ Digital Technique's] 080S, 160A, 160S, 300A ===<br />
:These are music servers based on PC technology with a capacity from 80 to 300 GB. They support MP3, Vorbis, FLAC and WAV. <br />
<br />
=== [http://www.digitalrise.biz/ DigitalRise'] Xstream Player ===<br />
:This item is part of the new generation of DVD players like the Kiss DP-600 and the models from I-O Data and Buffalo -- it can play DVDs, but also WMV-HD DVDs and supports all kinds of audio and video codecs: MPEG-1/-2/-4 (incl. DivX), WMV9, AAC, MP3, WMA and Vorbis.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.dlink.com/ D-Link's] DSM-320 ===<br />
:A wired and wireless UPnP streaming media player. Supports decoding Vorbis as of the 1.03 firmware. <br />
<br />
=== [http://www.ethernut.de/en/hardware/eir/ EIR Project] Elektor Internet Radio ===<br />
:Open Source Hardware and Software Project featuring an ARM7 based Internet Radio, which uses VLSI's VS1053 decoder chip.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.hermstedt.de/hifidelio/ Hermstedt's] Hifidelio, Hifidelio Pro ===<br />
:The Hifidelio is a music server in hi-fi format and designed to produce high-quality sound. It uses a CD/DVD combo drive and can thus rip Audio-CDs and read from DVD-Rs, and is also able to burn CDs. It has an in-built 4-port ethernet switch, a WLAN interface, can connect to the iPod and other portable players through USB 2.0. It can connect to other Hifidelios through the UPnP/AV standard and to iTunes shares (iTunes shopping is a future feature). The songs are stored on the 80 GB harddisk. Supported formats for decoding are: MP3, Vorbis, AAC, WMA, FLAC, WAV. The Hifidelio Pro has a 160 GB hdd and some other advanced features.<br />
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=== [http://www.iodata.com/ I-O Data's] AVeL LinkPlayer2 ===<br />
:This piece of hardware is a DVD player and a HDTV streaming client. It supports MPEG-2, DivX, XviD and WMV9 (WMV HD), as audio tracks PCM, AC3, MP3, AAC, WMA and Vorbis. It can use ethernet, WLAN and USB 2.0 to connect to media. It is available in Japan from September.<br />
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=== [http://www.kenwood.com/ Kenwood's] VRS-N8100, DVF-N7080 ===<br />
:The new line of networked hi-fi components are supposed to decode Vorbis over the Ethernet port: the A/V receiver VRS-N8100 and the DVD player DVF-N7080.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.kiss-technology.com/ KISS Technology's] DVD player models (basically all) ===<br />
:Except for one older model (the DP-330) all DVD/DivX players from Kiss can play Vorbis files from CD-Rs and CD-RWs (but reportedly have trouble with UTF-8 comments that aren&#x2019;t also ASCII), as well as DivX (but not DivX Vorbis).<br />
:<strong>There are reportedly problems with some versions of the firmware (2.6.6 &#x2264; <i>x</i> &#60; 2.7.1)</strong>, where playback is awful for a bitrates greater than 128Kb/s.<br />
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=== [http://www.medainc.com/ Meda Systems'] Bravo, Bravado ===<br />
:These are media servers with up to 500 GB storage. They can be controlled via PDA and support MP3, WAV, WMA, Vorbis and FLAC. They can also connect to the local network via ethernet.<br />
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=== [http://www.xbox.com/ Microsoft's] Xbox ===<br />
:The Xbox is a gaming console based on PC hardware, including a 733 MHz processor, 8 GB harddisk, a DVD drive and an Ethernet port. The console can be [http://waltercedric.com/Mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemid=40 modded] to allow the installation of third-party software, such as the [http://www.xboxmediacenter.de/ Xbox Media Center] project. Once installed the Xbox becomes a media center and streaming client. It supports vast amounts of audio, video and picture standards, including Vorbis and FLAC.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.mvixusa.com/product.php?product=mx780 Mivx] Wireless Media Player ===<br />
:Does not include a hard drive - you have to supply your own IDE or SATA drive. Supports a wide variety of wireless and component connections and audio/video formats including OGG Vorbis.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.momitsu.com/ Momitsu's] V880N ===<br />
:The V880N is a disc player and streaming client. It supports DVD, VCD/SVCD, Audio CD, Picture CD, MP3, JPEG, DivX, Xvid on discs and MOV, Vorbis, AAC, WMA, AC3 and internet radio over ethernet. In addition to the usual TV connection it supports digital video (DVI) and audio (coaxial/optical) output in HDTV. It has a LAN interface and a PC card slot for a WLAN card.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.mpsharp.com/ MP Sharp Technologies'] Digital Jukebox ===<br />
:The MPST Digital Jukebox is a Linux PC designed for audio playback and sold as a stereo component, which of course can play Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.netgem.com Netgem's] iPlayer ===<br />
:The iPlayer is primarily a DVB-T receiver, which includes an in-built modem and can also use a small range of USB ethernet adaptors to connect to a network. Supported media formats include MPEG and MPEG2, MP2 and MP3 and, in the latest release, Vorbis. Technical limitations in the USB controller limit the practical bandwidth of media to around 4 megabits/second. Perhaps the reason for the rather limited range of media formats supported is that the iPlayer is based on low-cost hardware - in the UK Netgem's own branded iPlayer usually retails for around £90. Netgem also host a [http://forum.netgem.com forum]. In addition to the Netgem branded iPlayer in the UK, branded devices are available from other manufacturers such as [http://player.teac.com.au/ Teac] (the ITV-D500, for the Australian market). With the imminent launch of DTT in France, Netgem is also expected to launch a model there.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros] [http://www.neurostechnology.com/neuros-osd-specifications OSD] ===<br />
:Hackable, nay, hack-encouraged, open-source streaming media client that plays many video and audio formats, including Vorbis and FLAC.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.neuston.com/ Neuston's] Maestro DVX-1201 ===<br />
:This is a standalone DVD player that supports Vorbis.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.tuxbox.org/ Nokia/Philips/Sagem] DBox2 ===<br />
:This device, manufactured by Nokia, Philips and Sagem until 2002 in huge numbers for the German Pay-TV provider Premiere, is a DVB-C or DVB-S receiver. It features a 10Mbit Ethernet interface and a nifty graphics display. The original software on this device was always a bit flakey. The alternate Linux-based [http://www.tuxbox.org/ Tuxbox] project includes an audio player that perfectly plays Vorbis files from a NFS or CIFS share. Streaming is in beta state.<br />
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=== [http://www.olive.us/ Olive Inc's] Musica ===<br />
:This is obviously a relabeled Hifidelio Pro for the US market. For details see the entry of Hermsted.<br />
<br />
=== [http://support.packardbell.com/uk/item/index.php?m=step2&i=menu_dvd Packard Bell's] DivX 350 DVD, DivX 450 Pro, DVX 460 USB ===<br />
:According to Packard Bell's website these players should all be able to play Vorbis audio files. The 350 model needs to be firmware-upgraded to [http://support.packardbell.com/se/item/index.php?i=instr_releasenotes_fw_divx350pb&pi=platform_divx350pb&dhepn=A000088300 v2.19] to play Vorbis. The 450 Pro exists in three different hardware revisions all of which might not be vorbis enabled.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.phatnoise.com/products/index.php PhatNoise's] Home Player ===<br />
:The Home Digital Media Player uses the same cartridges as the PhatBox, and supports Vorbis out of the box.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.pinnacleaudio.co.uk Pinnacle Audio] Athenaeum ===<br />
:Pinnacle Audio Athenaeum is a high end music server it plays FLAC and Vorbis. It automatically rips CD's to FLAC, but can also encode to Vorbis. It also supports encoding and playing MP3 but does not support DRM.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.philips.com Philips] DVP-5500S/5505 DVD/DIVX/CD/SACD Player ===<br />
:Although it's not written in the manual, this player indeed support Vorbis out of the box (as well as vorbis in an avi container, divx/xvid in an OGM container....) I don't know if there are limitations. I don't understand why it's not advertised.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=DVP5106K/97&slg=en&scy=IN Philips] DVP5106K/97 ===<br />
:This plays Ogg Vorbis audio, even if the manual doesn't say so.<br />
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=== [http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ Pinnacle's] ShowCenter 200 ===<br />
:This is a streaming box for audio and video. It supports MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-2 VOB, MPEG-4 AVI, Xvid, WMV9 and even WMV-HD video. Picture formats are JPEG, BMP, PNG and GIF. The box has native support for MP3, WAV, WMA and Vorbis (the latter requires a software and firmware upgrade to version 2.5, freely available from [http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ Pinnacle]).<br />
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=== [http://www.pontis.de/site_e/home_e.htm Pontis'] MediaServer MS300, MS330 ===<br />
:The website stupidly doesn't mention Vorbis support, but it is there, along with MP3. The MS300 is a music server that runs Linux and comes with 80 or whopping 300 GB of storage. It has an ethernet port that lets other desktops access the music via Samba, and supports hardware streaming clients that use the Slimserver protocol ([http://www.slimdevices.com/ Slimdevices], [http://www.rokulabs.com/ Roku]). The USB port and the memory card slot can be used to read in music from portable players and photos from digital cameras. Pictures can be viewed via SCART on the TV. The MS330 is similar to the MS300, but can also burn CDs from the CD drive, has a 6-in-1 memory card slot and supports MP3, Vorbis and FLAC.<br />
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=== [http://www.request.com/ ReQuest Multimedia] all products ===<br />
:ReQuest home theatre music systems play FLAC and Vorbis songs, and can edit FLAC and Ogg comments. They can encode CDs to FLAC, and transcode WAV to FLAC, but currently cannot encode to Vorbis. FLAC support has been there for many years; they were one of the first hardware makers to support it. Vorbis support has been there since their 2.0 software release. (They also support MP3 and WAV. They do not support any DRM formats and do not enforce any DRM rules.)<br />
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=== [http://www.reson.de/ Reson's] rh1 ===<br />
:The rh1 is a Hifidelio which has been modified for audiophile requirements (new DA component etc).<br />
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=== [http://www.rokulabs.com/ Roku's] HD1000, M1000, M2000 ===<br />
:Roku's streaming audio clients support the Slimserver from Slimdevice's products (for details see below).<br />
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=== [http://www.skipjam.com/imedia_audio_player.php SkipJam's] iMedia Audio Player, iMedia Audio Player Pro ===<br />
:The iMedia Audio Player is a streaming client with two Ethernet ports and supports MP3, WAV, PCM, WMA, AAC, AC3 FLAC, and Vorbis directly. Through PC-Server software it also plays M4A and M4P. It has two digital (optical/coaxial) and one analog output. The pro version can stream the same formats through ethernet or through built-in Homeplug power line networking, and has a built-in 30W/Chan digital amp. The pro unit is designed for installation in-wall in a 6-gang junction box.<br />
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=== [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/ Silvercrest's] KH6510, KH6511, KH6515, KH6516 DVD players ===<br />
:According to [http://www.hdtv-praxis.de/modules.php?op=modload&name=PagEd&file=index&topic_id=2&page_id=151&ppart=2 these (German) reviews], these players can play Vorbis stereo files, but not multichannel files. Silvercrest is a brand of the german discounter LIDL.<br />
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=== [http://www.slimdevices.com/ Slim Devices] Squeezebox, Squeezebox2, Squeezebox3, Transporter ===<br />
:The [[wikipedia:Squeezebox network music player|Squeezebox]] is a streaming receiver, that uses LAN or WLAN to stream audio. It supports decoding of MP3 and raw PCM. The server software is open source and available for a number of platforms (Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, FreeBSD) and decodes other formats, like Vorbis and FLAC, on the fly to PCM before streaming. The Squeezebox2 uses the same server software, but can decode FLAC natively, which lowers network traffic for other formats than MP3 considerably. The Squeezebox3 has basically the same features as version 2, but the design has been revamped completely and is more luxurious.<br />
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:The Squeezebox3 is advertised with native FLAC and vorbis playback support. With a current firmware update the device plays ogg vorbis streams and tracks of different bit sizes without problems. FLAC playback works as well.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Squeezebox_%28network_music_player%29|Wikipedia article about various Squeezebox models]]<br />
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=== [http://www.sonos.com/ Sonos'] Multi Zone Digital Music System ===<br />
:Sonos is a complete music system for a house that consists of speakers that are connected wirelessly to a media server. The system also supports Vorbis and FLAC.<br />
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=== [http://www.playstation.com/ Sony's] Playstation 2 ===<br />
:The [http://www.trend-express.com/en/medio.html Medio Digital Media Player] transforms the Playstation2 into a streaming client, supporting various audio and video formats, including Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.streamit.eu/ Streamit's] Lukas II, SIR120 and SIR120PRO ===<br />
:The Lukas II is a streaming receiver with integrated loudspeaker, that uses LAN or dialup to stream audio. The SIR120 and SIR120PRO are 19" rack mountable streaming receivers with SD card which use LAN to stream audio. All these devices support MP3, WMA, AAC+ and Vorbis streaming.<br />
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=== [http://www.my-noxon.com/ Terratec's] Noxon iRadio, Noxon2Radio for iPod, Noxon2Audio. ===<br />
:A WiFi radio for streaming music from the computer and the Internet.<br />
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=== [http://www.trans-technology.com/ Transgear's] DVX-500E, DVX-700 M20 ===<br />
:The DVX-500E is a DVD player and streaming client. It supports MPEG-1/-2/DivX/Xvid/VOB/DVB and WAV/MP3/WMA/AAC/Vorbis and JPG/BMP/GIF/TIF/PNG. The DVX-700 can do the same, plus has digital video plugs, supports HD video formats and has a change slot for 3,5" HDDs.<br />
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=== [http://www.tversity.com TVersity Media Server]: ===<br />
:A UPNP/AV compliant media server that uses the Vorbis libraries to transcode audio files to the Vorbis format.<br />
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=== [http://www.umax.de/ Umax/Yamada] ===<br />
**DVX-6600 For the DVD/DivX player DVX-6600 a future firmware is supposed to be able to decode Vorbis, but there is no release date yet.<br />
**[http://www.umax.de/WebNew/Produkte/9_HomeEntertainment/DVX-6700/DVX-6700.htm DVX-6700] <br />
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=== [http://www.watterott.net/projects/webradio-arm WebRadio Project] ===<br />
:Open Source Streaming Client based on an ARM Cortex-M3 microcontroller and VLSI's VS1053 audio codec.<br />
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=== [http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572&language=en Western Digital TV] ===<br />
:Also known as WDTV and WD TV. An inexpensive media player, with two USB 2.0 input ports and with HDMI and composite output ports. With the included remote control, device owners can browse the multimedia files contained on the USB devices, through the on-screen menu system. Supports both Ogg Vorbis (tremor-1.0-svn) and FLAC (flac-1.2.1) audio playback, based on WDTV firmware 1.01.01 version. Looks like it runs an embedded Linux operating system and a Motorola ColdFire (ARM) processor.<br />
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=== [http://www.yamakawa.de/ Yamakawa's] DVD-375 ===<br />
:The Yamakawa DVD-375 supports Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.z500series.com/ Zensonic's] Z500 ===<br />
:The Z500 is a networked multimedia player. It is almost unbelievable how many media types are supported. Video formats: HDTV, DVD, WMV9, DivX, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, HighMAT, Matroska. Audio formats: Audio CD, MP3, FLAC, Vorbis, AAC, WMA, DVD Audio, and internet radios. Pictures: JPEG, PNG, TIF etc. It supports USB mass storage devices and connects through Gigabit Ethernet or WLAN to the network. The server software runs on Windows, Mac and Linux (UPnP Streaming). Among other connectors it supports the new HDMI standard.<br />
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== Car Audio ==<br />
=== Acoustic Solutions ICS-160 ===<br />
:Plays Vorbis, MP3 and WMA from CD, USB and SD card. Can rip from CD/radio/aux to MP3 or WMA, but cannot rip to Vorbis. Displays metadata for MP3, but seems to ignore metadata for Vorbis. (Metadata display not tested for WMA.) Available in UK in [http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5005316.htm Spring/Summer 2007 Argos catalogue]. Appears to be based on the same architecture as the Yakumo Hypersound Car Eazy (see above), as the digital display and software appear to be identical, and the two models appear to have identical specifications. However, the design of the fascia is completely different.<br />
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=== <del>Alpine CDE-9846R/RM and CDE-9848RB</del> ===<br />
:'''Cannot play''' Vorbis.<br />
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=== AudioVox VME 9112 ===<br />
:Plays Vorbis from CD, at least up to q6.<br />
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=== Citroën C4 Picasso ===<br />
The brand new Citroën C4 Picasso with usb port can play Ogg Vorbis out of the box. More info [http://service.citroen.com/ddb/donnees/c4picasso/ed01-09/lg_fr_fr/datas/283_285_c4picasso-fr-ed01-2009.pdf here] (in french) <br />
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=== <del>[http://www.blaupunkt.com/au/7647573510_main.asp Blaupunkt London MP37]</del> ===<br />
:Cannot play OGG Vorbis files. (In fact, support for Vorbis is ''almost'' present: it can be tricked to play an OGG Vorbis file by putting it into a subdirectory on the CD, but that's it.)<br />
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=== [http://www.dension.com Dension] [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway300.php ice>Link Gateway 300], [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway400.php 400] and [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway500.php 500] ===<br />
:Dension develops <i>connected car infotainment systems: Either as a direct stand-alone equipment, or accessory, or complete systems.</i> Either for fitting by the OEM or aftermarket, Dension offers three different (hardware-)gateways to connect either audio players 3.5mm jack), iPods (special connector) or mass storage devices (USB), with the latter having Vorbis files stored on amongst other popular formats. The products are called [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway300.php ice>Link Gateway 300], [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway400.php 400] and [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway500.php 500]; and the support knowledge-base [http://support.dension.com/support-center/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&root=11&id=79 lists all supported formats]. The gateways are compatible to various OEM systems and aftermarket head units, the system used by Volkswagen (see below) may well be supplied by Dension.<br />
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=== [http://www.fusioncaraudio.com Fusion] CA-CD500 ===<br />
:Can play Ogg Vorbis from a CD. Website and box say it can play ogg, but manual only mentions MP3/WMA/AAC - don't know why, may be because it (and it's sister unit, the CA-IP500) obviously can't play Ogg from a connected ipod. Plays Ogg very well (tested up to Q8). Downsides are that it does not read metadata, so it will only display folder and file names about each song. Also Ogg playback is not seamless between songs and seems to cause high load, so the display hangs in regular intervals.<br />
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=== [http://www.hb-direct.com/ H&B] CA-7475 / CA-7475BTi ===<br />
:This device seems to be similar to the PLU2 P2-106USB, but also has Bluetooth support. It is mainly sold in France, but it is not on H&B's website, so it may be a phased-out model. [http://www.bestofmicro.com/actualite/22493-H-B-CA-7475BTi.html (fr)]<br />
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=== [http://www.hb-direct.com/ H&B] CA-7575BTI ===<br />
:[http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00061312.html CA-7575BTI on ldlc website (fr)] this link says that this one is sold out at the moment (2009 05 25)<br />
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=== [http://www.hb-direct.com/ H&B] CA-640BTi ===<br />
:CD/CR-R(W), WMA, AAAC, MP3, Ogg Vorbis - ID3 Tag - Bluetooth - USB (also hard disk drive) and SD - iPOD - iPhone - RCA aux<br />
:The capability of playing Ogg Vorbis is documented on the web site of h&b<br />
:[http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Equipement-Automobile-GPS/Autoradios/Autoradios-CD-MP3/H-B/432120-Autoradio-CA-640BTi-CD-MP3-Bluetooth-USB-et-SD-facade-Direct-iPOD-HB.htm CA-640BTi on rueducommerce website (fr)] this one is still available at the moment (2009 05 25)<br />
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=== Hyundai H-CDM8030 ===<br />
:Can play Vorbis from USB flash drive until Q7. Very similar if not identical to Silvercrest CRB-520.<br />
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=== [http://www.insignia-products.com/ Insignia's] NS-C5111 CD Car deck ===<br />
:It is being sold at [http://www.bestbuy.com/ Best Buy] as of April 2006 and will play Vorbis off of a USB drive, SD Card or from Oggs encoded onto data CDs. The Vorbis ability is undocumented. There are similar (or same) complaints as noted about the Yakumo unit below. Long TOC reads and the Random button causes track-change. The system has frozen a couple of times requiring the use of a reset button (it has one). Also problems have been experienced with nested directories, it seems to only read filenames from .ogg files, displays no ID3 info, but it constantly displays stats about the currently-playing file.<br />
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=== [http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027694&pathId=54&page=1 JVC KD-G720] and [http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027693&pathId=54&page=1 KD-G820] ===<br />
:Both support Vorbis according to [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=29933&view=findpost&p=392489 this post], however according to tommyj's review on [http://www.crutchfield.com/S-YynrlAPfgcF/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&I=257KDG820&id=review this page] Vorbis support is limited to the USB connector and is also quite flakey. Another source suggests that JVC [http://www.jvc.ca/en/consumer/product-detail.asp?model=KD-G720 KD-G720] and KD-G820 both have undocumented, partial Vorbis support. Vorbis files can be played from a USB device attached to the USB port, but not from a CD. They do not support tags. For the vast majority of songs, q6 seems to be the highest they can reliably play. These decks are a good option for anybody looking to play Vorbis in their car because they are available at major retailers (e.g. Best Buy) and are relatively inexpensive.<br />
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=== JVC KD-G722 and KD-G721, KD-G821, KD-SH1000 ===<br />
:The JVC 2005 generation of car audio can play Vorbis from USB devices. They do not recognize Vorbis tracks on other media (neither CD, nor SD-card on SH1000). Their USB slot is not powerful enough to power a real hard drive, but USB flash is no problem. The 721/722 can play Vorbis until q7 (721 and 722 only differ in color, grey or black). The 821 can play up to q5. The KD-SH1000 also plays Vorbis from USB (unknown which quality it supports).<br />
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=== <del>JVC KD-G731/831</del> ===<br />
:These do '''not''' play Vorbis. They are the successors to the 72x/82x series, but the (undocumented) Vorbis support was '''dropped''' here.<br />
:Official reply from JVC regarding support : ''"The following models from 2006 are the only ones to support Ogg Vorbis, KD-SH1000, KD-G821, KD-G721/722. The 2007 and planned 2008 range will not be compatible with Ogg Vorbis."''<br />
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=== [http://www.kenwood.com/ Kenwood's] Music Keg ===<br />
:The [http://www.kenwoodusa.com/products/ListProduct.aspx?k1=2&k2=5&k3=71&pr=2008 Music Keg KHD-C710] uses the same system as the PhatBox below, which means Vorbis support is available. But it seems, that only the software can encode to the HD, but can't play from the Music Keg. [http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-g2FinmVl7fe/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?print=Y&g=50800&id=detailed_info&i=113KHDC710]<br />
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=== Lynx CRM 2005 ===<br />
:Low-Cost Car Radio with support to read Vorbis from CD, USB 1.1, SD and MMC. In Germany it's labeled as "Tevion CRM-2005" and was sold by Aldi-Süd. Both are Yakumo Hypersound clones.<br />
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=== [http://origin-community.ministryofsound.com/audio/range.htm Ministry of Sound] [http://shop.ministryofsound.com/Cultures/en-GB/Products/MOSCA104X5.htm?MSCSProfile=9E133C53BD3D92DF1CE9F907D3646C9255036D7AFA803EF7A1C19406E5739EB04CA3BBA8EABD4803AC7F85E26AE78DC143DE377C1060D36EE764E752F8748B9C37DA7AE4DC53D986D49D1C7ADE21AEE447308E31C3159353F77EB0DD5B9A4EA78160B1E4E075A977762313FF570F8494A1229CE23CB601E9992AF7076FC531CC?CatalogNavigationBreadCrumbs=MinistryofSound|Audio|Car_Audio CD tuner] ===<br />
:It is likely that it uses Roadstar electronics as well, because both brands are owned by Alba Plc.<br />
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=== [http://www.mutant.uk.com/mt1106mp3.html Mutant MT1106MP3] ===<br />
:Head unit with removable 512MB audio player. Supports Vorbis according to [http://www.ciao.co.uk/Mutant_MT1106USB__Review_5649304 this review].<br />
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=== [http://www.phatnoise.org/ PhatNoise's] PhatBox ===<br />
:The PhatBox is an audio entertainment system for the car. It uses a cartridge to store the music, and it can be filled with music through a docking station for the PC. As of version 3.1 of the desktop software (Phatnoise Music Manager), Vorbis is supported out of the box. However, production was discontinued in 2007.<br />
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=== [http://www.plu2.de/ PLU2] P2-106USB ===<br />
:Plays Vorbis from CD, SD and USB. ebay link on discussion page.<br />
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=== [http://www.riocar.org Rio Car] ===<br />
The Rio Car (previously [http://www.empeg.com/ empeg]) is a Linux based harddisk receiver, but was discontinued in 2005. The latest 3.0 alpha software (which was never finished) for this device does support FLAC and gapless Vorbis playback. It may still be the only in-dash device that can hold two 2.5" IDE hard disc drives internally.<br />
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=== SENCOR SCD 7405BMR ===<br />
:Can play my ogg files. at least from the usb stick. Even supports tags. From CD, I did not try.<br />
:Interestingly, this feature is not documented by the manufacturer / distributor. Strange ...<br />
:It can play also mp3 and perhaps also wma. It can record also in mp3 format from the fm-radio or even cd.<br />
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=== [http://www.roadstar.com/ Roadstar] [http://www.roadstar.com/newsite/index.php?left=family&id=1300&center=productdetail&id_prd=365&right=productdownload&id_fam=113 CD-258US/512] ===<br />
:Car CD tuner with MP3 / WMA / Vorbis disc playback and a detachable front panel with internal Flash memory of 512 MB. Upload via USB from your PC your favourite songs to the internal memory inside the detachable panel (MP3, WMA or Vorbis file format). Encode your music in MP3 format from CD / Radio / Aux-In source to the Internal Flash Memory or USB / SD / MMC. Transfer your favourite MP3 / WMA / Vorbis files between CD disc / Internal Flash Memory / USB / SD / MMC.<br />
:It displays no ID3 info on Ogg files, but it constantly displays stats and filename about the currently-playing file.<br />
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=== [http://www.roadstar.com/ Roadstar] CD-656USWM/FM ===<br />
:Although neither the manual, nor the package or the inscriptions on the front panel mention Ogg Vorbis, it does play Ogg Vorbis files fine (the manual and the package only state that it can play MP3 and WMA files, but obviously this is not the whole truth).<br />
:It plays Ogg Vorbis files both via CD/CD-R/CD-RW, via USB and via SD/MMC. It only displays the filename, the bitrate and the sampling rate during playback.<br />
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=== SEAT Ibiza (Model 6J) ===<br />
:The new SEAT Ibiza model, current as of 2009, offers a car hifi system with USB port as an option. If present, the following file types can be played via USB: MP3, WMA, AAC (in MP4 container and bitstream-only, possible extensions are .MP4, .M4A and .AAC) ''and'' Ogg Vorbis, too. For all file types, metadata is displayed (Vorbis comments, ID3 tags, MP4 file info etc.). The manual for the built-in stereo only mentions "MP3, WMA and AAC"...<br />
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=== [http://www.mysilvercrest.de Silvercrest] ([http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=62 KH 2389], ===<br />
[http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=98 KH 2380] and [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=127 CRB-530]) : In-dash CD-MP3-Players. It is possible to plug in a USB stick and SD card into them. Vorbis works with the USB stick, SD card and CD. Silvercrest is a brand of the german discounter LIDL.<br />
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:Although LIDL's advertisement for the KH 2380 in December 2006 made a show of its Vorbis support, this is not mentioned in the manual, or any accompanying documentation. Initial impressions suggest that playback for q3 is good, and correctly plays the entire track, but is not gapless.<br />
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: [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=127 CRB-530] has a documented compatibility with ogg. The ogg is fluid.<br />
: [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=139 CRB-531] is identical, but comes without the ISO adapter cable.<br />
: [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=126 CRE-520] is similar, but without the Bluetooth feature.<br />
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=== [http://uralauto.ru Ural] [http://www.cdd.ru ConceRt] ===<br />
Russian manufacturer AAC makes an unconventional CD headunit that supports Vorbis and FLAC playback. It is being sold since end of 2005, but difficult to obtain outside Russia. An optional expansion unit provides 2.5" hard disk, USB port and AUX input.<br />
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=== <del>VDO Dayton CD 2803, CD 2737 B</del> ===<br />
:'''Cannot play''' Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.vdodayton.com VDO Dayton] [http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_and_fz_menu=cd_1537_x.aspx CD 1537 X] and [http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_and_fz_menu=cd_1737_x.aspx CD 1737 X] ===<br />
:Manufacturer's site clearly states that these are able to play Ogg Vorbis from CD, SD/MMC and USB 1.1 devices. The 1737 manual states that it can play files between 8 and 192kb/s. Up to 99 files in 99 directories (assume that means 99 in each), with names of up to 32 characters. Favorable review on [http://www.cnetfrance.fr/produits/materiels/systemes-auto-embarques/test/0,3800002254,39367497,00.htm Cnet France] (in French)<br />
Update 4/2009: As of end of 2008 this brand has been discontinued; units are available mostly second hand. The 1537X works well with all sources and file types (tested with Audio CD, MP3/OGG from CD/SD/USB), except for the following drawbacks. It's a pity, with some improvements this could have been a decent player.<br />
* The display (greyish white on light blue) can not be dimmed; may be hard to read in bright light, and too bright in the night.<br />
* Audible background noise when playing files on low volume, but doesn't stick out anymore when driving or turning up the volume.<br />
* Directory search diplays only DOS (8.3) directory names, while file names work fine. Recommended to stick to this legacy convention from the start when naming your dirs for use with this player, else you only get 6 obfuscated characters + "~1" on the display :-(<br />
* Only ASCII characters are displayed and converted to uppercase, everything else is shown as "*".<br />
* SD cards up to 2 GB only. (Large enough to get lost in your directory tree. USB devices may be larger, apparently no limits to the number of files. Tested with a 8 GB keychain.)<br />
* Random playback works only for all files on the media, not per dir/album. Random state isn't remembered on next power on.<br />
* Operation and text display could be better in places.<br />
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=== [http://www.vdodayton.com VDO Dayton] [http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_and_fz_menu=exclusive_line2.aspx Exclusive Line (2008):] [http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_and_fz_menu=tr_7327_b.aspx TR 7327 B] ===<br />
:Advertised to have Ogg Vorbis support with bitrates from 8 up to 192 kbit/s. Manual mentions Ogg Vorbis I information tags for Album / Artist / Track name and such. So far, playback is fine and seems solid. Tag information still needs to be investigated further. Unit plays from either SD/MMC card (not SDHC!), or USB stick with max. 2GB for each. No CD drive, but spurts Bluetooth out of the box at a reasonable price. User Manual and data sheet are available as PDF for download from the product page. Included (but not mentioned anywhere) was a cable for iPod to be connected to a rear AUX input, yet support said it is Audio only, i.e. no iPod operation driven by the head unit.<br />
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=== [http://www.volkswagen-individual.de/ Volkswagen] Golf, Touran and others ===<br />
:From January 2006 onwards all Golf, Golf Plus and Touran models will offer an USB port (MDI), which support USB sticks with music. Today it is available for virtually all models. Supported formats include MP3, WAV, WMA and Vorbis. Note that Ogg Vorbis support is only mentioned on the German Web site. On a related note, the iPod is supported, too.<br />
:The new VW Polo (tested in October 2009) plays MP3, WMA, AAC (in MP4 container and bitstream-only, possible extensions are .MP4, .M4A and .AAC) ''and'' Ogg Vorbis, too.<br />
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=== <del>XcarLink or 'Audio Link" USB/Bluetooth/ipod adapter by Powermark</del> ===<br />
for car audio<br />
:'''Cannot play''' Vorbis.<br />
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=== <del> [http://www.yakumo.com/produkte/index.php?pid=1&ag=Autoradio Yakumo's] Hypersound Car </del>===<br />
<br />
'''Company doesn't exist anymore'''<br />
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:This in-dash car CD player supports Vorbis, MP3, and WMA playback from CD, USB stick or MMC/SD card. Vorbis support is not obvious but are clearly specified in the Technical Specifications page of the user manual, but has been verified to work with both UK and German versions. Reservations [http://www.tomergabel.com/TheQuestForTheHolyErSound.aspx have been made] regarding the product's quality, in particular stability and performance. (There was also a Yakumo Support Forum Discussion, but Yakumo seem to have taken their forums offline as of March 2007. Partial archive [http://www.moteprime.org/article.php?id=30 here].)It supports Vorbis files on USB, MMC/SD and CD. However, as of early 2006 its firmware is notoriously flaky, no firmware update is available, and it also has poor tuner sensitivity. This is also supplied in unbranded form at various retailers, but it does have a distinctive look. [http://www.yakumo.de/produkte/index.php?pid=1&ag=Autoradio <del> Yakumo Car Entertainment </del>]. [http://www.yakumo.com/datafiles/produkte/manuals/man_1037991_38_2_yakumo_hypersound_car_eazy.pdf <del> Online manual </del>]. See also Acoustic Solutions ICS-160.<br />
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''Note: Some of this information was moved from the Mobile Players page, so there may be some duplication.''<br />
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== Media Storage ==<br />
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=== [http://www.gennetworks.com/ GenNetwork's] GenMedia DivXStorage ===<br />
:This is an external harddrive as a video storage to connect to TV sets. It comes in various versions and storage sizes. It comes with USB 2.0 and a remote control. HDTV resolution, 5.1 sound and the following file formats are supported: MPEG-4/DVD/VCD/SVCD/AudioCD/JPEG/MP3. For the [http://www.gennetworks.com/pro_genmedia02.htm 3,5"] and deck version Vorbis format is mentioned.<br />
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=== [http://www.numark.com/ Numark's] HDX, HDMix ===<br />
:These are DJ media players with a 80GB HD on-board and a CD drive. They support Hard Drive Playback of MP3, WMA, WAV, Vorbis, and FLAC (lossless) formats. See [http://www.numark.com/ homepage] for more.<br />
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=== [http://www.cirago.com/ Cirago's] CMC1000 and CMC500 ===<br />
:These are Wireless-capable DVR or maybe just DVP devices.<br />
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<div>This page contains detailed descriptions of portable harddisk players supporting ogg vorbis playback. For an overview support matrix see the [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|Vorbis Native Support Table]]. <br />
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=== [http://www.airlinktek.com/ AL Tech's] MG-25, MG-35, MG350HD ===<br />
:The Mediagate MG-25 is a portable HDD that supports also media playback. It uses a 2,5" disk and USB2.0 to connect, and supports MPEG-1/-2/-4, DivX, Xvid, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, JPG. It can upsample to HDTV, has composite, component and s-video outs, stereo and a digital out. Remote control is included. The MG-35 uses a 3,5" HDD instead, supports WMA and ethernet. The MG350HD uses a 3,5" HDD as well and supports HDTV. There is a wiki page with an faq [http://mediagate.pbwiki.com/ here].<br />
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=== [http://www.apple.com/ipod Apple's] iPod* ===<br />
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>''The native iPod firmware doesn't support Ogg Vorbis.'' You can, however, install [http://www.rockbox.org/ RockBox] or [http://www.ipodlinux.org/ iPodLinux] on all [http://www.superstoresearch.com/-Apple+iPod Apple iPod] models (except for the [http://www.superstoresearch.com/-Apple+iPod+Shuffle Shuffle] and [http://www.superstoresearch.com/-Apple+iPod+Nano Nano] 2nd gen). RockBox supports tags, and a number of other formats. The larger iPod models have up to 80 GB HDDs.<br />
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=== [http://www.boghe.com Boghe] Vip20 ===<br />
:The Vip20 seems to be similar to the iBeat 500 from TrekStor and Xclef HD-800. It has the same features: MP3, WMA, WAV, Ogg Vorbis decoding plus 20 GB storage.<br />
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=== [http://www.cmt21.com/index_eng.php Creative Mind (CMTECH)'s] U250 ===<br />
:Seems to be a Korean supplier to Samsung who also sells own branded players. Works as pendrive, encodes MP3 from line-in (same jack as the headphone), FM radio and microphone. Has built in loudspeaker. Plays back Ogg Vorbis, MP3 and WMA. Does not display ISO-885902 accented characters from my VorbisComments. :-(<br />
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=== [http://www.commodore.net/ Commodore's] eVic ===<br />
:The eVic has 20GB storage and plays WMA (incl. DRM), MP3 and Ogg Vorbis. It can record voice and music, and has USB host functionality. In Hardware version M03-002, firmware 2.203 '''serious problems''' with ogg playback while using the ''Equalizer'' are present (disturbing crackling noises). (An email inquiry to Commodore International Corporation replied "eVic's new firmware is still developing. The new version will safe the issue with ogg playback while using the Equalizer.") USB host functionality seems not to be implemented yet at all.<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com COWON America's] [http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/tvix/ Dvico TViX][http://www.tvix.co.kr/eng/ 2] ===<br />
:This is a rather unique device; a multimedia jukebox, music tank, photo album and last but not least a portable storage. It is bigger than usual portable devices, but has also a lot more options. It can connect to the PC (USB 2.0), TV (S-Video, Composite), stereos and 5.1 surround systems (Coaxial/Optical) and comes with a remote control. Supported video formats are DVD (MPEG-2), VCD (MPEG-1), DivX, Xvid. Supported Audio formats are MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis (and [http://www.tvix.co.kr/eng/ mkv] with firmware upgrade). It can display JPEG pictures on the TV. It is available without a harddrive, or equipped with harddrive sizes up to 200 GB.<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon iAudio] M3, M5, X5, A2, 6, 7 ===<br />
:The iAudio M3 is a portable harddisk player with either 20 or 40 GB of storage. It has a built-in FM radio and mic. It supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and WAV and even FLAC with the newest firmware upgrade. See this [http://gear.ign.com/articles/522/522090p1.html IGN article] for more info. The M5 has 20 GB storage and supports the same formats. The X5 is similarly designed (storage sizes of 20GB, 30GB, 60GB) and can play MPEG-4 videos. It has a 1.8 inch LCD with 260,000 colors and USB OTG (On-The-Go) feature. The A2 is released in November 2005 and is a widescreen mobile video player. It has a 480 x 272 pixel screen and supports the above metioned set of audio, video and image formats. The tiny iAudio 6 features a 4 Gb 0.85" harddisk and supports both OGG and FLAC. The M3, M5, X5, and A2 (probably the 6 as well) all act as USB mass storage devices, which means they are supported by Linux and Mac. The software is windows-only, though. <br />
:'''Comment tag support''' — The iaudio X5 supports the ''artist'' (limited length), ''album'', and ''title'' comment tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.digmind.com/ Digital Mind Corporation's] DMC 8280 ===<br />
:The 8280 has 20 GB or 30 GB storage, plays Ogg Vorbis, MP3 and WMA. Standard feature set; this player does not excel in any area but price. USB mass storage compliant — you can put songs on it from non-Windows computers, but full indexing of the songs for reference by artist etc. requires Windows.<br />
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=== [http://www.emtec-international.com/ Emtec's] Movie Cube ===<br />
:The Movie Cube comes with a 2,5" HDD with 40 or 80 GB size. It supports the playback of various audio and video formats including Ogg Vorbis. The package includes some AV cables and a remote control.<br />
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=== [http://www.freecom.com/ Freecom's] MediaPlayer-3, Network MediaPlayer-35 Drive-In ===<br />
:The MediaPlayer-3 is again sort of an external HDD that can play media without a PC. It supports DivX, MP3, MPEG-4, AVI, WMA, ASF and Ogg Vorbis. The product with the complicated name Network MediaPlayer-35 Drive-In is an enhanced version of the MediaPlayer-3 — it has an additional network interface and supports an internal 3,5" drive. The ethernet port can be used to read media from the network, but cannot be used as network attached storage.<br />
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=== [http://www.godot.com.tw/ GoDot] M8170, M8270, M8370, M8470, M8570 ===<br />
:GoDot's HD players have capacity ranging from 2.2gb to 20gb. Each model is very different. They support Ogg Vorbis, MP3 and WMA (some models support DRM).<br />
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=== [http://www.hama.de/portal?lid=2 Hama's] VSV-20/VSV-40 ===<br />
:The VSV-20/VSV-40 has the usual mobile MP3 HDD player size and can read/write from its 16in1 memory card reader and 20 GB or 40 GB internal HDD. But it can do more than audio (MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, AAC). It supports image (JPEG) and video (MPEG-1/-4) playback on the 2" display and on a connected TV. It even includes a remote control. Beware: Hama has suspended OggVorbis support. However, there is a Firmware update promised to reestablish OggVorbis. If you plan to buy a device check the [http://www.hama.de/service/download/firmware/index.hsp Firmware download page] or better [http://www.hama.de/portal/pageId*2276/action*3499 ask them] about the current status of OggVorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://eng.iaudio.com/ iAudio] ===<br />
:See Cowon iAudio above.<br />
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=== [http://www.idream-multimedia.com/liste.php?cid=9 iDREAM] Jukebox 2.2 GB, 3.3 GB and 4 GB ===<br />
:Those HDD players support OGG and Encode MP3 from Line-In.<br />
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=== [http://www.ivmm.com/innoax/products/innopod.htm InnoAX's] InnoPod ===<br />
:This is a iPod mini clone, that supports MP3, WMA, WAV and Ogg Vorbis. It supports recording from line-in and mic, has a 4 GB harddrive and USB2.0.<br />
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=== [http://www.iomega.com/ Iomega's] ScreenPlay Pro ===<br />
:Iomega is finally also jumping on the bandwaggon and offers external HDDs with multimedia-playback. The larger version ScreenPlay Pro supports the usual audio and video codecs including Ogg Vorbis. It seems to be a repackaged Mvisto with HDD included [http://www.iomega-europe.com/eu/en/products/screenplay/screenplay_family_en.aspx ScreenPlay Pro].<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] iHP-1xx, H1xx, H2xx, H3xx, iGP-100 ===<br />
:iRiver has also a number of harddisk based items that play back Ogg Vorbis. Older models like the iHP-100 and the iHP-115 come in 10 and 15 GB sizes and need a firmware update (see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support support downloads] for that). The iHP-120, a 20GB portable player, and the iHP-140, a 40GB version, support Vorbis playback out of the box. Read reviews here: [http://gear.ign.com/articles/435/435472p1.html IGN on iHP-100], [http://gear.ign.com/articles/457/457818p1.html IGN on iHP-120]. The iGP-100, a 1.5Gb portable player, supports Vorbis, according to the FAQ, though no firmware upgrade appears to be required. The new line of harddisk players H120, H140 come in 10 to 40 GB sizes. There is also a product line with USB host function and colour display that supports 32-500kbs: H320, H340]. The newer H10 player does not support Ogg Vorbis.<br />
:Many iRiver devices can be loaded with the RockBox replacement firmware which plays Ogg Vorbis as well as adding FLAC playback.<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-M3, SSF-M5 ===<br />
:The SSF-M3 comes with 20/40GB storage size, whereas the SSF-M5 has only 1.5 GB. Both support voice recording and FM radio. The SSF-M3 is more stylish and very slim and comes with a docking station.<br />
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=== Jungsoft's Muzio JM-600 ===<br />
:This player comes with either 2.2 or 4 GB harddrive and supports MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and ASF. It can record voice and has a FM receiver. What sets this player apart is the LCD — it can show BMPs, JPGs and text. The device can also act as a USB host to support digital cameras.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com/ LG's] Mediagate ===<br />
:This player is similar to the Modix or TViX. It is a portable USB HDD equipped with a 2,5" drive (size varies). It plays audio (MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WMA), video (MPEG-1/-2, Xvid, DivX) and images (JPEG). It has composite, s-video and component video output and supports progressive scan, audio output is done through a coaxial and stereo plug. The device is bundled with a remote control.<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ mobiBLU] DHH-200 ===<br />
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=== Modix HD-3510 ===<br />
:The HD-3510 is similar to the TViX, as it is sort of a portable multi-talent. It can store and playback audio, video and images, and can be used for other files as well. It can decode MPEG-1/-2/-4 including DivX/Xvid, AC3, DTS, MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and JPEG. It uses USB2.0 for data input and has various ouput connectors: anlog stereo and 5.1 out, coaxial digital out, composite, s-video and component video out with progressive scan and HDTV upscaling. The HD-3510 is bundled with a carrying bag and a remote control, but without a 3,5" HDD.<br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye's] HT-100, HT-150 ===<br />
:The HT-100 uses a 1,5 GB HDD, decodes MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and supports the usual features. The HT-150 seems to have the same features (maybe a mistake on the website).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpio.com/ mpio] HD300, HD200, One ===<br />
:mpio HD300 is a harddisk player with 20GB and supports WAV/MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis. It has FM radio, an alarm clock and supports USB 2.0. The HD200 has 5GB storage capacity, a FM radio which can be recorded and supports the same formats as the HD300. Despite its name the One consist of three components: a player, a HDD and a CD-ROM drive, which can be combined with each other. It supports [[MP3]], [[WMA]], Ogg Vorbis, JPG, BMP and MPEG-4 movies. It has a 1" OLED display and will be available from 05/2005.<br />
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=== [http://www.macpower.com.tw/ Macpower] Mvisto MV-U2UGS ===<br />
:The Mvisto is a portable hardware enclosure for 2,5" harddrives. It has video and audio outs and decodes MPEG1/2/Divx/Xvid/JPEG/MP3/WMA/AAC/Ogg Vorbis. It comes with a remote control.<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] Neuros II ===<br />
:This mobile player comes either with various harddrive sizes up to 80 GB or as 256 MB flash player. The new firmware to support Ogg Vorbis has been developed by the Xiph.org Foundation. The Neuros Synchronization Manager for Windows is available from the same link and now fully supports the addition of Vorbis files to the Neuros. *nix users can use Xiph.org's [http://www.xiph.org/positron/ Positron], Sean Starkey's Java [http://neurosdbm.sf.net/ Neuros Database Manipulator], or [http://www.sorune.com/ Sorune], all of which provide full Neuros database support and other features. Neuros II discontinued. Neuros III is planned but indefinite but they have a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/archives/Product%20Roadmap3-15-2005.htm roadmap].<br />
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=== [http://www.nextway.co.kr/ Nextway's] D Cube NHD-150D ===<br />
:1.5 GB harddisk, USB 2.0, and can broadcast music through a FM transmitter.<br />
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=== [http://www.pontis.de/ Pontis'] MX2020 ===<br />
:There is now a firmware update for the MX2020 that adds Ogg Vorbis support, which is a portable player for movies, music and photos.<br />
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=== [http://www.modix-hd.com/ Rapsody's] RSH-100 ===<br />
:It is similar to the Modix HD-3510, but supports USB host functionality additionally. This web site is dead. The Savit Micro Rapsody RSH-100 can be seen on their site.<br />
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=== [http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/rioaudio/ Rio] [http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/item.asp?model=261 Karma] ===<br />
:Harddisk of 20 GB. Uses Vorbis and FLAC. Uses USB 2.0 cable or docking station, which offers Ethernet and RCA line-out support. See [http://gear.ign.com/articles/458/458401p1.html ING review] or [http://www.riovolution.com Riovolution review] for more information. Note that firmware versions prior to 1.25 cause stability problems for some people, visit the [http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/support/rio/product.asp?prodID=113 support page] to get the newest version. The Karma was discontinued in March 2005, Rio (DNNA) effectively dissolved 27-July-2005 assets sold to [http://www.sigmatel.com/ SigmaTel].<br />
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=== Safa HMP-110R ===<br />
:A portable player with 1.5GB memory, FM-receiver, recording function, upgradeable firmware, etc.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com Samsung] YH-J70 ===<br />
:A portable Multimedia Jukebox as seen on their [http://www.samsung.com/common/microsite/exhibition/cebit2005/base.asp?pcode=IT01 Cebit 2005 Microsite]. Comes with 20/30GB disk, colour display, video player and USB host function. Samsung's support for Ogg Vorbis is reported to be buggy. [http://www.samsunghq.com/forum/showthread.php?t=369] The Samsung YH925 is falsely advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. [http://www.paul.sladen.org/toys/samsung-yh-925/]<br />
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=== [http://www.sitecom.com/ Sitecom's] MP-330, MP-010 ===<br />
:The MP-330 player uses a 4,4 GB harddrive, USB 2.0 and supports MP3, WMA and (Ogg Vorbis is claimed in the manual but it doesn't play ogg). The MP-010 is a portable media player. As such it supports music, movies and pictures. This includes MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, MPEG-1/-2/-4. It has a capacity of 40GB, comes with a remote control and has various ports for the TV.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.de/ TEAC] MP-1000, MP-2000 ===<br />
:TEAC MP-1000 is an ultra-compact harddrive player with 1.5GB capacity and only 70g mass. The follow-up model MP-2000 has 5 GB storage and supports the same formats (MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis).<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] iBeat 500, iBeat 300, vibez ===<br />
:The iBeat 500 is a portable harddisk player with 20 GB of storage. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis and uses USB 2.0 to connect to PCs. It has a FM radio and an in-built mic. It seems to be available only in Germany (looks like a rebadged Xclef HD-800). The iBeat 300 uses a 1,5 GB HDD and has a color display. The vibez is available in 8GB, 12GB and 15GB versions. All can play MP3, WMA, WAV, OGG and FLAC files.<br />
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=== [http://www.unibrain.com/iZak Unibrain's] iZak ===<br />
:This is a portable USB hard disk with 40/80/100 GB of storage. It plays a wide range of video formats, including dixv/xvid/bvix/dvd iso. A good review can be found [http://www.mpeg-playcenter.com/modules/Reviews/reviews/Review_iZak.pdf here].<br />
:The most current firmware release supports Ogg Vorbis playback.<br />
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=== [http://www.agci.co.uk/customer/categories/audio/mp3players Vusys] i-DJ 370 and i-DJ 670 ===<br />
:4GB and 20GB harddrive players listed as playing OGG on the site. 370 weighs 150g and plays for 10 hours, 670 weighs 165g and plays for 12 hours.<br />
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=== [http://www.xclef.com/ Xclef's] HD-800, HD-500 ===<br />
:This is a harddisk player with 20/40/60 GB storage size, and can decode MP3, WMA, Ogg Vorbis and WAV. It has a FM radio and a mic for recording voice. Though not mentioned on the web site, the HD-500 does decode Ogg Vorbis. — Site is dead, and as of 2007.05.23 no results come up in Google Product Search.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/Flash&diff=12257PortablePlayers/Flash2010-06-27T11:09:17Z<p>Gsauthof: overview link</p>
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<div>This page contains detailed descriptions of portable flash players supporting ogg vorbis playback. For an overview support matrix see the [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|Vorbis Native Support Table]].<br />
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In each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
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<i>From the information below (see the "Chinese MP4" and "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.</i><br />
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<i>It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives. </i><br />
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== Flash Memory Storage ==<br />
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=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
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=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
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=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
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=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
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=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Cowon|Wikipedia article about Cowon and players]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:IAUDIO|Wikipedia article about Cowon iAudio Models]]<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays OGG, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
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=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and on charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
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The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
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The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
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=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
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=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
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=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
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=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
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:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
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=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
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=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
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=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
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=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=User:Gsauthof&diff=12256User:Gsauthof2010-06-27T10:50:52Z<p>Gsauthof: new page</p>
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<div>You can [[Special:EmailUser/Gsauthof|write me an email]] or [[User talk:Gsauthof|talk on my discussion page]].</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp&diff=12255PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp2010-06-27T10:46:46Z<p>Gsauthof: wp link</p>
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<div>Samsung produce a range of players, many of which support Vorbis to a greater or lesser degree.<br />
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== YP-T6 ==<br />
The YP-T6 is an incredibly small flash player with 128/256/512/1024 MB storage, has a mic and FM radio and and Vorbis. The YP-T6 has problems to play Vorbis files created with older encoder-versions.<br />
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== YP-T7 ==<br />
The YP-T7 has either 512MB or 1GB capacity and supports the same audio formats, which also applies to the YP-F1. It can display JPEGs on its color display.<br />
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== YP-T9 ==<br />
The YP-T9 supports Vorbis with firmware 1.50 and higher. The older firmware also supports MTP transfers only. Note that new firmware is available in two versions, MTP and UMS. Units purchased in US/Canada come with MTP firmware but can be reflashed with UMS firmware from Samsung's download site.<br />
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While the spec sheet for the YP-T9 lists Vorbis support, this is missing from the product package and from the user manual. Samsung tech support could not confirm that the player would play Vorbis files.<br />
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== YP-T10 ==<br />
The YP-T10 is a 8GB flash player. The YP-T10 purchased outside of Korea does not support Ogg Vorbis. The YP-T10 available outside of Korea is a MTP device - the version sold inside Korea is a USB-mass-storage-device.<br />
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There are build in restrictions that you cannot flash a MTP-device to a UMS-device out-of-the-box. There are hacked firmware images avaiable - but of course, if you flash a hacked firmware you void the warranty of the device.<br />
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The 1.55 Korean firmware plays ogg files, but it does a poor job job sorting them (i.e. ignores the tracknumber-tag und uses the title as sort key).<br />
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Both firmware variants don't support FLAC files.<br />
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Warning: amazon.de advertises the YP-T10 as mass-storage-device which supports Ogg Vorbis and AAC out of the box. But this article description is wrong. The devices sold by amazon are MTP devices and they don't support Ogg Vorbis or AAC out-of-the-box. Even with a non-Korean-1.55 firmware they are still MTP devices and don't support Ogg Vorbis or AAC.<br />
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== YP-C1 ==<br />
The YP-C1 has similar specs, including Vorbis support; at the time of writing, it seems to be readily available only in Korea and China.<br />
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== YP-53 ==<br />
The YP-53, a small flash player with 128/256/512/1024 MB storage, mic, USB 2.0 and FM radio, supports Vorbis(-q >= 0) with Firmware 1.200.<br />
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== YP-U1 ==<br />
The YP-U1 is a small (2,38 x 8,78 x 1,35 cm, ~32g) flash player with 128/256/512/1024/2048 MB storage. The player has a LCD b/w display and an integrated accumulator that is charged via USB. It supports USB2.0 and has an integrated USB-plug that can be flipped in and out, so no cable or adapter is needed. It supports directory structures.<br />
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==YP-U2 ==<br />
The YP-U2 sold in the US (YP-U2J) does not support Vorbis playback at all, despite what the website claims. Flashing an international firmware for the YP-U2XB allows Vorbis playback on US models (it also turns the player into a USB drive, so that WM10 isn't required to transfer files over. Note that certain international firmwares may remove the FM radio feature or hang the YP-U2J. See the appropriate link below for info on getting a hold of the correct Vorbis-compatible firmware.<br />
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* YP-U2J, YP-U2JQB, YP-U2JQB/XAA: observed US/Canadian models. PlaysForSure, no Vorbis<br />
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* YP-U2X, YP-U2Z, YP-U2XW, YP-U2ZB, YP-U2ZW: models supported on Samsung Hong Kong website as of 2007 August 19. These support Vorbis, UMS. B and W seem to stand for Black and White.<br />
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==YP-U3 ==<br />
The YP-U3 sold in the US (YP-U3J) supports Vorbis playback with firmware versions 1.08 and 1.10 - quality levels 3 and 6 have been confirmed to work. Multi-track playback is not gapless - there's a pause of a few tenths of a second when switching between tracks. The US version is an MTP device (rather than a USB Mass Storage drive) and requires WM10, or libusb support (e.g. in Amarok) to transfer files. Vorbis tags are extracted and displayed correctly during track playback. Proper artist/album/track indexing requires that the program downloading the tracks to the YP-U3 extract the tags and include the information in the MTP download operation - the YP-U3 will not do this automatically. <br />
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"International" versions of the YP-U3, running versions of the firmware ending in an odd digit, function as UMS drives rather than MTP media devices. It is possible to reflash US (MTP) models with the UMS firmware, following the steps [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17656&page=4 here] and downloading the firmware and tools [ftp://celtic.no-ip.org/pub/Samsung_YP_U3 here].<br />
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==YP-U5 ==<br />
The YP-U5 is a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Vorbis (Q0~Q10) and FLAC codecs supports. MTP (by default) and USB mass-storage drives (UMS) support. <br />
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== YP-Z5 ==<br />
The YP-Z5 is a player with color screen, 1/2/4 GB flash memory, USB 2.0 and Vorbis support (firmware versions 1.06US, 2.28US), albeit not officially mentioned on the manufacturers website.<br />
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:*[[Talk:PortablePlayers#Samsung's Yepp Vorbis support|There have been reports that the Vorbis support in the YP-T6 is buggy.]]<br />
:*[[Talk:PortablePlayers#Yepp_YP-U2|Finding the best Vorbis-compatible firmware for the US-purchased YP-U2J.]]<br />
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== Weblinks ==<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Yepp|Wikipedia article about the Samsung Yepp players]]</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/Flash&diff=12254PortablePlayers/Flash2010-06-27T10:44:15Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Cowon/iAudio D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 */ wp link</p>
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<div>:in each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
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<i>From the information below (see the "Chinese MP4" and "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.</i><br><br><br />
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<i>It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives. </i><br />
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== Flash Memory Storage ==<br />
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=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
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=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
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=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
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=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
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=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Cowon|Wikipedia article about Cowon and players]]<br />
* [[Wikipedia:IAUDIO|Wikipedia article about Cowon iAudio Models]]<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays OGG, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
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=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and on charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
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The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
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The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
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=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
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=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
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=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
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=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
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:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
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=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
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=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
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=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
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=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/Flash&diff=12253PortablePlayers/Flash2010-06-27T10:41:30Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Cowon/iAudio D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 */ wp link</p>
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<div>:in each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
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<i>From the information below (see the "Chinese MP4" and "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.</i><br><br><br />
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<i>It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives. </i><br />
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== Flash Memory Storage ==<br />
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=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
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=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
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=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
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=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
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=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
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=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Cowon|Wikipedia article about Cowon iAudio models]]<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays OGG, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
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=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and on charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
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The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
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The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
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=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
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=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
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=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
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=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
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:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
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=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
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=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
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=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
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=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=StaticPlayers&diff=12252StaticPlayers2010-06-27T10:39:16Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Slim Devices Squeezebox, Squeezebox2, Squeezebox3, Transporter */ wp link</p>
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<div>== Introduction ==<br />
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On this page you can find all static players that are known to support Vorbis. This includes Hi-Fi components such as CD/DVD players and car audio equipment. For hardware that is able to run third-party software (such as PDAs and video game consoles), please visit [[VorbisSoftwarePlayers]].<br />
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== Hi-Fi components ==<br />
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=== [http://www.playonhd.com/en/#info A.C.Ryan] PlayOn!HD ===<br />
:This player supports a lot of Audio and Video formats, and acts as a player and streamer, Network 10/100, Wifi 802.11b/g, NAS 3.5" SATA up to 1.5TB, 2x USB Host, Internet Radio, HDMI, UPnP client.<br />
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=== [http://actiontec.com/products/tech/broadband/wdmp/wdmp_overview.html <del> Actiontec </del>] <del> Wireless Digital Media Player </del> ===<br />
'''Product doesn't exist anymore'''<br />
:This player is a streaming client for video, audio and images. It supports MP3, AC3, AAC, WAV, WMA, Vorbis and internet radio. Supported picture formats are JPEG, GIF, TIF, BMP and PNG. It can play back MPEG-1/-2/-4, Xvid, RMP4. It has RCA connectors, a digital output, supports HDTV and can surf the internet.<br />
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=== [http://www.adstech.com/ ADS Tech's] Media-Link ===<br />
:This is a streaming client that uses ethernet and WLAN for connecting. It has a composite, component and s-video out and sterea and S/PDIF out. It supports MPEG-1/-2/-4, DivX, Xvid, MOV, MP3, Vorbis, AC3, WMA, JPG, BMP, GIF. The server software seems to support only windows.<br />
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=== [http://www.arcamsolo.com/ ARCAM] DV137, DV139, Solo Movie 5.1 ===<br />
:These high-end British home cinema products are primarily DVD-Video and DVD-Audio playback devices. All support playback of Vorbis, MP3 and WMA files from CD-R and DVD-R discs. Other media supported includes SACD. Audio performance competes with dedicated high-end CD/DVD-A/SACD players whilst video can be upscaled to HD resolutions over HDMI. The DV137 and DV139 are player components whilst the Solo Movie 5.1 is an all-in-one system that includes a DAB/AM/FM radio (territory dependant), various auxiliary inputs and five channels of amplification (5 x 50W RMS into 8 Ohms).<br />
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=== [http://www.buffalotech.com/ Buffalo's] PC-P3LWG/DVD ===<br />
:This product is a DVD player and streaming client with HDTV support. It has wireless and wired networking and a USB port. The media server software only runs on Windows (UPnP AV). It supports many formats: video (SVCD/DVD/DivX HD/Xvid/RealMedia/WMV HD), audio (MP3, Vorbis, WAV, AAC, WMA, AC3) and picture (JPG, GIF, BMP, TIF, PNG). It can be integrated with the NAS solution LinkStation/TeraStation for media storage such that no PC is required.<br />
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=== [http://www.cyberhome.com/ Cyberhome's] DVD 635s ===<br />
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:According to this [http://www.dv-rec.de/test/player2005/635/635.html review(german)] on [http://www.dv-rec.de DV-REC], it plays Vorbis and has '''buggy''' Ogm Video-support. The sound quality appears to be very good(accordimg the review), but there is no special Vorbis point of view about sound quality in the review. Some users report troubling noises from the build in CD/DVD-device.<br />
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=== [http://www.digitaltechniques.com/ Digital Technique's] 080S, 160A, 160S, 300A ===<br />
:These are music servers based on PC technology with a capacity from 80 to 300 GB. They support MP3, Vorbis, FLAC and WAV. <br />
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=== [http://www.digitalrise.biz/ DigitalRise'] Xstream Player ===<br />
:This item is part of the new generation of DVD players like the Kiss DP-600 and the models from I-O Data and Buffalo -- it can play DVDs, but also WMV-HD DVDs and supports all kinds of audio and video codecs: MPEG-1/-2/-4 (incl. DivX), WMV9, AAC, MP3, WMA and Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.dlink.com/ D-Link's] DSM-320 ===<br />
:A wired and wireless UPnP streaming media player. Supports decoding Vorbis as of the 1.03 firmware. <br />
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=== [http://www.ethernut.de/en/hardware/eir/ EIR Project] Elektor Internet Radio ===<br />
:Open Source Hardware and Software Project featuring an ARM7 based Internet Radio, which uses VLSI's VS1053 decoder chip.<br />
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=== [http://www.hermstedt.de/hifidelio/ Hermstedt's] Hifidelio, Hifidelio Pro ===<br />
:The Hifidelio is a music server in hi-fi format and designed to produce high-quality sound. It uses a CD/DVD combo drive and can thus rip Audio-CDs and read from DVD-Rs, and is also able to burn CDs. It has an in-built 4-port ethernet switch, a WLAN interface, can connect to the iPod and other portable players through USB 2.0. It can connect to other Hifidelios through the UPnP/AV standard and to iTunes shares (iTunes shopping is a future feature). The songs are stored on the 80 GB harddisk. Supported formats for decoding are: MP3, Vorbis, AAC, WMA, FLAC, WAV. The Hifidelio Pro has a 160 GB hdd and some other advanced features.<br />
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=== [http://www.iodata.com/ I-O Data's] AVeL LinkPlayer2 ===<br />
:This piece of hardware is a DVD player and a HDTV streaming client. It supports MPEG-2, DivX, XviD and WMV9 (WMV HD), as audio tracks PCM, AC3, MP3, AAC, WMA and Vorbis. It can use ethernet, WLAN and USB 2.0 to connect to media. It is available in Japan from September.<br />
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=== [http://www.kenwood.com/ Kenwood's] VRS-N8100, DVF-N7080 ===<br />
:The new line of networked hi-fi components are supposed to decode Vorbis over the Ethernet port: the A/V receiver VRS-N8100 and the DVD player DVF-N7080.<br />
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=== [http://www.kiss-technology.com/ KISS Technology's] DVD player models (basically all) ===<br />
:Except for one older model (the DP-330) all DVD/DivX players from Kiss can play Vorbis files from CD-Rs and CD-RWs (but reportedly have trouble with UTF-8 comments that aren&#x2019;t also ASCII), as well as DivX (but not DivX Vorbis).<br />
:<strong>There are reportedly problems with some versions of the firmware (2.6.6 &#x2264; <i>x</i> &#60; 2.7.1)</strong>, where playback is awful for a bitrates greater than 128Kb/s.<br />
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=== [http://www.medainc.com/ Meda Systems'] Bravo, Bravado ===<br />
:These are media servers with up to 500 GB storage. They can be controlled via PDA and support MP3, WAV, WMA, Vorbis and FLAC. They can also connect to the local network via ethernet.<br />
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=== [http://www.xbox.com/ Microsoft's] Xbox ===<br />
:The Xbox is a gaming console based on PC hardware, including a 733 MHz processor, 8 GB harddisk, a DVD drive and an Ethernet port. The console can be [http://waltercedric.com/Mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemid=40 modded] to allow the installation of third-party software, such as the [http://www.xboxmediacenter.de/ Xbox Media Center] project. Once installed the Xbox becomes a media center and streaming client. It supports vast amounts of audio, video and picture standards, including Vorbis and FLAC.<br />
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=== [http://www.mvixusa.com/product.php?product=mx780 Mivx] Wireless Media Player ===<br />
:Does not include a hard drive - you have to supply your own IDE or SATA drive. Supports a wide variety of wireless and component connections and audio/video formats including OGG Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.momitsu.com/ Momitsu's] V880N ===<br />
:The V880N is a disc player and streaming client. It supports DVD, VCD/SVCD, Audio CD, Picture CD, MP3, JPEG, DivX, Xvid on discs and MOV, Vorbis, AAC, WMA, AC3 and internet radio over ethernet. In addition to the usual TV connection it supports digital video (DVI) and audio (coaxial/optical) output in HDTV. It has a LAN interface and a PC card slot for a WLAN card.<br />
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=== [http://www.mpsharp.com/ MP Sharp Technologies'] Digital Jukebox ===<br />
:The MPST Digital Jukebox is a Linux PC designed for audio playback and sold as a stereo component, which of course can play Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.netgem.com Netgem's] iPlayer ===<br />
:The iPlayer is primarily a DVB-T receiver, which includes an in-built modem and can also use a small range of USB ethernet adaptors to connect to a network. Supported media formats include MPEG and MPEG2, MP2 and MP3 and, in the latest release, Vorbis. Technical limitations in the USB controller limit the practical bandwidth of media to around 4 megabits/second. Perhaps the reason for the rather limited range of media formats supported is that the iPlayer is based on low-cost hardware - in the UK Netgem's own branded iPlayer usually retails for around £90. Netgem also host a [http://forum.netgem.com forum]. In addition to the Netgem branded iPlayer in the UK, branded devices are available from other manufacturers such as [http://player.teac.com.au/ Teac] (the ITV-D500, for the Australian market). With the imminent launch of DTT in France, Netgem is also expected to launch a model there.<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros] [http://www.neurostechnology.com/neuros-osd-specifications OSD] ===<br />
:Hackable, nay, hack-encouraged, open-source streaming media client that plays many video and audio formats, including Vorbis and FLAC.<br />
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=== [http://www.neuston.com/ Neuston's] Maestro DVX-1201 ===<br />
:This is a standalone DVD player that supports Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.tuxbox.org/ Nokia/Philips/Sagem] DBox2 ===<br />
:This device, manufactured by Nokia, Philips and Sagem until 2002 in huge numbers for the German Pay-TV provider Premiere, is a DVB-C or DVB-S receiver. It features a 10Mbit Ethernet interface and a nifty graphics display. The original software on this device was always a bit flakey. The alternate Linux-based [http://www.tuxbox.org/ Tuxbox] project includes an audio player that perfectly plays Vorbis files from a NFS or CIFS share. Streaming is in beta state.<br />
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=== [http://www.olive.us/ Olive Inc's] Musica ===<br />
:This is obviously a relabeled Hifidelio Pro for the US market. For details see the entry of Hermsted.<br />
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=== [http://support.packardbell.com/uk/item/index.php?m=step2&i=menu_dvd Packard Bell's] DivX 350 DVD, DivX 450 Pro, DVX 460 USB ===<br />
:According to Packard Bell's website these players should all be able to play Vorbis audio files. The 350 model needs to be firmware-upgraded to [http://support.packardbell.com/se/item/index.php?i=instr_releasenotes_fw_divx350pb&pi=platform_divx350pb&dhepn=A000088300 v2.19] to play Vorbis. The 450 Pro exists in three different hardware revisions all of which might not be vorbis enabled.<br />
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=== [http://www.phatnoise.com/products/index.php PhatNoise's] Home Player ===<br />
:The Home Digital Media Player uses the same cartridges as the PhatBox, and supports Vorbis out of the box.<br />
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=== [http://www.pinnacleaudio.co.uk Pinnacle Audio] Athenaeum ===<br />
:Pinnacle Audio Athenaeum is a high end music server it plays FLAC and Vorbis. It automatically rips CD's to FLAC, but can also encode to Vorbis. It also supports encoding and playing MP3 but does not support DRM.<br />
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=== [http://www.philips.com Philips] DVP-5500S/5505 DVD/DIVX/CD/SACD Player ===<br />
:Although it's not written in the manual, this player indeed support Vorbis out of the box (as well as vorbis in an avi container, divx/xvid in an OGM container....) I don't know if there are limitations. I don't understand why it's not advertised.<br />
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=== [http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=DVP5106K/97&slg=en&scy=IN Philips] DVP5106K/97 ===<br />
:This plays Ogg Vorbis audio, even if the manual doesn't say so.<br />
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=== [http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ Pinnacle's] ShowCenter 200 ===<br />
:This is a streaming box for audio and video. It supports MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-2 VOB, MPEG-4 AVI, Xvid, WMV9 and even WMV-HD video. Picture formats are JPEG, BMP, PNG and GIF. The box has native support for MP3, WAV, WMA and Vorbis (the latter requires a software and firmware upgrade to version 2.5, freely available from [http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ Pinnacle]).<br />
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=== [http://www.pontis.de/site_e/home_e.htm Pontis'] MediaServer MS300, MS330 ===<br />
:The website stupidly doesn't mention Vorbis support, but it is there, along with MP3. The MS300 is a music server that runs Linux and comes with 80 or whopping 300 GB of storage. It has an ethernet port that lets other desktops access the music via Samba, and supports hardware streaming clients that use the Slimserver protocol ([http://www.slimdevices.com/ Slimdevices], [http://www.rokulabs.com/ Roku]). The USB port and the memory card slot can be used to read in music from portable players and photos from digital cameras. Pictures can be viewed via SCART on the TV. The MS330 is similar to the MS300, but can also burn CDs from the CD drive, has a 6-in-1 memory card slot and supports MP3, Vorbis and FLAC.<br />
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=== [http://www.request.com/ ReQuest Multimedia] all products ===<br />
:ReQuest home theatre music systems play FLAC and Vorbis songs, and can edit FLAC and Ogg comments. They can encode CDs to FLAC, and transcode WAV to FLAC, but currently cannot encode to Vorbis. FLAC support has been there for many years; they were one of the first hardware makers to support it. Vorbis support has been there since their 2.0 software release. (They also support MP3 and WAV. They do not support any DRM formats and do not enforce any DRM rules.)<br />
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=== [http://www.reson.de/ Reson's] rh1 ===<br />
:The rh1 is a Hifidelio which has been modified for audiophile requirements (new DA component etc).<br />
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=== [http://www.rokulabs.com/ Roku's] HD1000, M1000, M2000 ===<br />
:Roku's streaming audio clients support the Slimserver from Slimdevice's products (for details see below).<br />
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=== [http://www.skipjam.com/imedia_audio_player.php SkipJam's] iMedia Audio Player, iMedia Audio Player Pro ===<br />
:The iMedia Audio Player is a streaming client with two Ethernet ports and supports MP3, WAV, PCM, WMA, AAC, AC3 FLAC, and Vorbis directly. Through PC-Server software it also plays M4A and M4P. It has two digital (optical/coaxial) and one analog output. The pro version can stream the same formats through ethernet or through built-in Homeplug power line networking, and has a built-in 30W/Chan digital amp. The pro unit is designed for installation in-wall in a 6-gang junction box.<br />
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=== [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/ Silvercrest's] KH6510, KH6511, KH6515, KH6516 DVD players ===<br />
:According to [http://www.hdtv-praxis.de/modules.php?op=modload&name=PagEd&file=index&topic_id=2&page_id=151&ppart=2 these (German) reviews], these players can play Vorbis stereo files, but not multichannel files. Silvercrest is a brand of the german discounter LIDL.<br />
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=== [http://www.slimdevices.com/ Slim Devices] Squeezebox, Squeezebox2, Squeezebox3, Transporter ===<br />
:The [[wikipedia:Squeezebox network music player|Squeezebox]] is a streaming receiver, that uses LAN or WLAN to stream audio. It supports decoding of MP3 and raw PCM. The server software is open source and available for a number of platforms (Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, FreeBSD) and decodes other formats, like Vorbis and FLAC, on the fly to PCM before streaming. The Squeezebox2 uses the same server software, but can decode FLAC natively, which lowers network traffic for other formats than MP3 considerably. The Squeezebox3 has basically the same features as version 2, but the design has been revamped completely and is more luxurious.<br />
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:The Squeezebox3 is advertised with native FLAC and vorbis playback support. With a current firmware update the device plays ogg vorbis streams and tracks of different bit sizes without problems. FLAC playback works as well.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[Wikipedia:Squeezebox_%28network_music_player%29|Wikipedia article about various Squeezebox models]]<br />
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=== [http://www.sonos.com/ Sonos'] Multi Zone Digital Music System ===<br />
:Sonos is a complete music system for a house that consists of speakers that are connected wirelessly to a media server. The system also supports Vorbis and FLAC.<br />
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=== [http://www.playstation.com/ Sony's] Playstation 2 ===<br />
:The [http://www.trend-express.com/en/medio.html Medio Digital Media Player] transforms the Playstation2 into a streaming client, supporting various audio and video formats, including Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.streamit.eu/ Streamit's] Lukas II, SIR120 and SIR120PRO ===<br />
:The Lukas II is a streaming receiver with integrated loudspeaker, that uses LAN or dialup to stream audio. The SIR120 and SIR120PRO are 19" rack mountable streaming receivers with SD card which use LAN to stream audio. All these devices support MP3, WMA, AAC+ and Vorbis streaming.<br />
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=== [http://www.my-noxon.com/ Terratec's] Noxon iRadio, Noxon2Radio for iPod, Noxon2Audio. ===<br />
:A WiFi radio for streaming music from the computer and the Internet.<br />
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=== [http://www.trans-technology.com/ Transgear's] DVX-500E, DVX-700 M20 ===<br />
:The DVX-500E is a DVD player and streaming client. It supports MPEG-1/-2/DivX/Xvid/VOB/DVB and WAV/MP3/WMA/AAC/Vorbis and JPG/BMP/GIF/TIF/PNG. The DVX-700 can do the same, plus has digital video plugs, supports HD video formats and has a change slot for 3,5" HDDs.<br />
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=== [http://www.tversity.com TVersity Media Server]: ===<br />
:A UPNP/AV compliant media server that uses the Vorbis libraries to transcode audio files to the Vorbis format.<br />
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=== [http://www.umax.de/ Umax/Yamada] ===<br />
**DVX-6600 For the DVD/DivX player DVX-6600 a future firmware is supposed to be able to decode Vorbis, but there is no release date yet.<br />
**[http://www.umax.de/WebNew/Produkte/9_HomeEntertainment/DVX-6700/DVX-6700.htm DVX-6700] <br />
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=== [http://www.watterott.net/projects/webradio-arm WebRadio Project] ===<br />
:Open Source Streaming Client based on an ARM Cortex-M3 microcontroller and VLSI's VS1053 audio codec.<br />
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=== [http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572&language=en Western Digital TV] ===<br />
:Also known as WDTV and WD TV. An inexpensive media player, with two USB 2.0 input ports and with HDMI and composite output ports. With the included remote control, device owners can browse the multimedia files contained on the USB devices, through the on-screen menu system. Supports both Ogg Vorbis (tremor-1.0-svn) and FLAC (flac-1.2.1) audio playback, based on WDTV firmware 1.01.01 version. Looks like it runs an embedded Linux operating system and a Motorola ColdFire (ARM) processor.<br />
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=== [http://www.yamakawa.de/ Yamakawa's] DVD-375 ===<br />
:The Yamakawa DVD-375 supports Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.z500series.com/ Zensonic's] Z500 ===<br />
:The Z500 is a networked multimedia player. It is almost unbelievable how many media types are supported. Video formats: HDTV, DVD, WMV9, DivX, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, HighMAT, Matroska. Audio formats: Audio CD, MP3, FLAC, Vorbis, AAC, WMA, DVD Audio, and internet radios. Pictures: JPEG, PNG, TIF etc. It supports USB mass storage devices and connects through Gigabit Ethernet or WLAN to the network. The server software runs on Windows, Mac and Linux (UPnP Streaming). Among other connectors it supports the new HDMI standard.<br />
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== Car Audio ==<br />
=== Acoustic Solutions ICS-160 ===<br />
:Plays Vorbis, MP3 and WMA from CD, USB and SD card. Can rip from CD/radio/aux to MP3 or WMA, but cannot rip to Vorbis. Displays metadata for MP3, but seems to ignore metadata for Vorbis. (Metadata display not tested for WMA.) Available in UK in [http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5005316.htm Spring/Summer 2007 Argos catalogue]. Appears to be based on the same architecture as the Yakumo Hypersound Car Eazy (see above), as the digital display and software appear to be identical, and the two models appear to have identical specifications. However, the design of the fascia is completely different.<br />
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=== <del>Alpine CDE-9846R/RM and CDE-9848RB</del> ===<br />
:'''Cannot play''' Vorbis.<br />
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=== AudioVox VME 9112 ===<br />
:Plays Vorbis from CD, at least up to q6.<br />
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=== Citroën C4 Picasso ===<br />
The brand new Citroën C4 Picasso with usb port can play Ogg Vorbis out of the box. More info [http://service.citroen.com/ddb/donnees/c4picasso/ed01-09/lg_fr_fr/datas/283_285_c4picasso-fr-ed01-2009.pdf here] (in french) <br />
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=== <del>[http://www.blaupunkt.com/au/7647573510_main.asp Blaupunkt London MP37]</del> ===<br />
:Cannot play OGG Vorbis files. (In fact, support for Vorbis is ''almost'' present: it can be tricked to play an OGG Vorbis file by putting it into a subdirectory on the CD, but that's it.)<br />
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=== [http://www.dension.com Dension] [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway300.php ice>Link Gateway 300], [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway400.php 400] and [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway500.php 500] ===<br />
:Dension develops <i>connected car infotainment systems: Either as a direct stand-alone equipment, or accessory, or complete systems.</i> Either for fitting by the OEM or aftermarket, Dension offers three different (hardware-)gateways to connect either audio players 3.5mm jack), iPods (special connector) or mass storage devices (USB), with the latter having Vorbis files stored on amongst other popular formats. The products are called [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway300.php ice>Link Gateway 300], [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway400.php 400] and [http://www.dension.com/icelinkgateway500.php 500]; and the support knowledge-base [http://support.dension.com/support-center/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&root=11&id=79 lists all supported formats]. The gateways are compatible to various OEM systems and aftermarket head units, the system used by Volkswagen (see below) may well be supplied by Dension.<br />
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=== [http://www.fusioncaraudio.com Fusion] CA-CD500 ===<br />
:Can play Ogg Vorbis from a CD. Website and box say it can play ogg, but manual only mentions MP3/WMA/AAC - don't know why, may be because it (and it's sister unit, the CA-IP500) obviously can't play Ogg from a connected ipod. Plays Ogg very well (tested up to Q8). Downsides are that it does not read metadata, so it will only display folder and file names about each song. Also Ogg playback is not seamless between songs and seems to cause high load, so the display hangs in regular intervals.<br />
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=== [http://www.hb-direct.com/ H&B] CA-7475 / CA-7475BTi ===<br />
:This device seems to be similar to the PLU2 P2-106USB, but also has Bluetooth support. It is mainly sold in France, but it is not on H&B's website, so it may be a phased-out model. [http://www.bestofmicro.com/actualite/22493-H-B-CA-7475BTi.html (fr)]<br />
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=== [http://www.hb-direct.com/ H&B] CA-7575BTI ===<br />
:[http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00061312.html CA-7575BTI on ldlc website (fr)] this link says that this one is sold out at the moment (2009 05 25)<br />
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=== [http://www.hb-direct.com/ H&B] CA-640BTi ===<br />
:CD/CR-R(W), WMA, AAAC, MP3, Ogg Vorbis - ID3 Tag - Bluetooth - USB (also hard disk drive) and SD - iPOD - iPhone - RCA aux<br />
:The capability of playing Ogg Vorbis is documented on the web site of h&b<br />
:[http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Equipement-Automobile-GPS/Autoradios/Autoradios-CD-MP3/H-B/432120-Autoradio-CA-640BTi-CD-MP3-Bluetooth-USB-et-SD-facade-Direct-iPOD-HB.htm CA-640BTi on rueducommerce website (fr)] this one is still available at the moment (2009 05 25)<br />
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=== Hyundai H-CDM8030 ===<br />
:Can play Vorbis from USB flash drive until Q7. Very similar if not identical to Silvercrest CRB-520.<br />
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=== [http://www.insignia-products.com/ Insignia's] NS-C5111 CD Car deck ===<br />
:It is being sold at [http://www.bestbuy.com/ Best Buy] as of April 2006 and will play Vorbis off of a USB drive, SD Card or from Oggs encoded onto data CDs. The Vorbis ability is undocumented. There are similar (or same) complaints as noted about the Yakumo unit below. Long TOC reads and the Random button causes track-change. The system has frozen a couple of times requiring the use of a reset button (it has one). Also problems have been experienced with nested directories, it seems to only read filenames from .ogg files, displays no ID3 info, but it constantly displays stats about the currently-playing file.<br />
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=== [http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027694&pathId=54&page=1 JVC KD-G720] and [http://mobile.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027693&pathId=54&page=1 KD-G820] ===<br />
:Both support Vorbis according to [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=29933&view=findpost&p=392489 this post], however according to tommyj's review on [http://www.crutchfield.com/S-YynrlAPfgcF/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&I=257KDG820&id=review this page] Vorbis support is limited to the USB connector and is also quite flakey. Another source suggests that JVC [http://www.jvc.ca/en/consumer/product-detail.asp?model=KD-G720 KD-G720] and KD-G820 both have undocumented, partial Vorbis support. Vorbis files can be played from a USB device attached to the USB port, but not from a CD. They do not support tags. For the vast majority of songs, q6 seems to be the highest they can reliably play. These decks are a good option for anybody looking to play Vorbis in their car because they are available at major retailers (e.g. Best Buy) and are relatively inexpensive.<br />
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=== JVC KD-G722 and KD-G721, KD-G821, KD-SH1000 ===<br />
:The JVC 2005 generation of car audio can play Vorbis from USB devices. They do not recognize Vorbis tracks on other media (neither CD, nor SD-card on SH1000). Their USB slot is not powerful enough to power a real hard drive, but USB flash is no problem. The 721/722 can play Vorbis until q7 (721 and 722 only differ in color, grey or black). The 821 can play up to q5. The KD-SH1000 also plays Vorbis from USB (unknown which quality it supports).<br />
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=== <del>JVC KD-G731/831</del> ===<br />
:These do '''not''' play Vorbis. They are the successors to the 72x/82x series, but the (undocumented) Vorbis support was '''dropped''' here.<br />
:Official reply from JVC regarding support : ''"The following models from 2006 are the only ones to support Ogg Vorbis, KD-SH1000, KD-G821, KD-G721/722. The 2007 and planned 2008 range will not be compatible with Ogg Vorbis."''<br />
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=== [http://www.kenwood.com/ Kenwood's] Music Keg ===<br />
:The [http://www.kenwoodusa.com/products/ListProduct.aspx?k1=2&k2=5&k3=71&pr=2008 Music Keg KHD-C710] uses the same system as the PhatBox below, which means Vorbis support is available. But it seems, that only the software can encode to the HD, but can't play from the Music Keg. [http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-g2FinmVl7fe/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?print=Y&g=50800&id=detailed_info&i=113KHDC710]<br />
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=== Lynx CRM 2005 ===<br />
:Low-Cost Car Radio with support to read Vorbis from CD, USB 1.1, SD and MMC. In Germany it's labeled as "Tevion CRM-2005" and was sold by Aldi-Süd. Both are Yakumo Hypersound clones.<br />
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=== [http://origin-community.ministryofsound.com/audio/range.htm Ministry of Sound] [http://shop.ministryofsound.com/Cultures/en-GB/Products/MOSCA104X5.htm?MSCSProfile=9E133C53BD3D92DF1CE9F907D3646C9255036D7AFA803EF7A1C19406E5739EB04CA3BBA8EABD4803AC7F85E26AE78DC143DE377C1060D36EE764E752F8748B9C37DA7AE4DC53D986D49D1C7ADE21AEE447308E31C3159353F77EB0DD5B9A4EA78160B1E4E075A977762313FF570F8494A1229CE23CB601E9992AF7076FC531CC?CatalogNavigationBreadCrumbs=MinistryofSound|Audio|Car_Audio CD tuner] ===<br />
:It is likely that it uses Roadstar electronics as well, because both brands are owned by Alba Plc.<br />
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=== [http://www.mutant.uk.com/mt1106mp3.html Mutant MT1106MP3] ===<br />
:Head unit with removable 512MB audio player. Supports Vorbis according to [http://www.ciao.co.uk/Mutant_MT1106USB__Review_5649304 this review].<br />
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=== [http://www.phatnoise.org/ PhatNoise's] PhatBox ===<br />
:The PhatBox is an audio entertainment system for the car. It uses a cartridge to store the music, and it can be filled with music through a docking station for the PC. As of version 3.1 of the desktop software (Phatnoise Music Manager), Vorbis is supported out of the box. However, production was discontinued in 2007.<br />
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=== [http://www.plu2.de/ PLU2] P2-106USB ===<br />
:Plays Vorbis from CD, SD and USB. ebay link on discussion page.<br />
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=== [http://www.riocar.org Rio Car] ===<br />
The Rio Car (previously [http://www.empeg.com/ empeg]) is a Linux based harddisk receiver, but was discontinued in 2005. The latest 3.0 alpha software (which was never finished) for this device does support FLAC and gapless Vorbis playback. It may still be the only in-dash device that can hold two 2.5" IDE hard disc drives internally.<br />
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=== SENCOR SCD 7405BMR ===<br />
:Can play my ogg files. at least from the usb stick. Even supports tags. From CD, I did not try.<br />
:Interestingly, this feature is not documented by the manufacturer / distributor. Strange ...<br />
:It can play also mp3 and perhaps also wma. It can record also in mp3 format from the fm-radio or even cd.<br />
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=== [http://www.roadstar.com/ Roadstar] [http://www.roadstar.com/newsite/index.php?left=family&id=1300&center=productdetail&id_prd=365&right=productdownload&id_fam=113 CD-258US/512] ===<br />
:Car CD tuner with MP3 / WMA / Vorbis disc playback and a detachable front panel with internal Flash memory of 512 MB. Upload via USB from your PC your favourite songs to the internal memory inside the detachable panel (MP3, WMA or Vorbis file format). Encode your music in MP3 format from CD / Radio / Aux-In source to the Internal Flash Memory or USB / SD / MMC. Transfer your favourite MP3 / WMA / Vorbis files between CD disc / Internal Flash Memory / USB / SD / MMC.<br />
:It displays no ID3 info on Ogg files, but it constantly displays stats and filename about the currently-playing file.<br />
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=== [http://www.roadstar.com/ Roadstar] CD-656USWM/FM ===<br />
:Although neither the manual, nor the package or the inscriptions on the front panel mention Ogg Vorbis, it does play Ogg Vorbis files fine (the manual and the package only state that it can play MP3 and WMA files, but obviously this is not the whole truth).<br />
:It plays Ogg Vorbis files both via CD/CD-R/CD-RW, via USB and via SD/MMC. It only displays the filename, the bitrate and the sampling rate during playback.<br />
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=== SEAT Ibiza (Model 6J) ===<br />
:The new SEAT Ibiza model, current as of 2009, offers a car hifi system with USB port as an option. If present, the following file types can be played via USB: MP3, WMA, AAC (in MP4 container and bitstream-only, possible extensions are .MP4, .M4A and .AAC) ''and'' Ogg Vorbis, too. For all file types, metadata is displayed (Vorbis comments, ID3 tags, MP4 file info etc.). The manual for the built-in stereo only mentions "MP3, WMA and AAC"...<br />
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=== [http://www.mysilvercrest.de Silvercrest] ([http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=62 KH 2389], ===<br />
[http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=98 KH 2380] and [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=127 CRB-530]) : In-dash CD-MP3-Players. It is possible to plug in a USB stick and SD card into them. Vorbis works with the USB stick, SD card and CD. Silvercrest is a brand of the german discounter LIDL.<br />
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:Although LIDL's advertisement for the KH 2380 in December 2006 made a show of its Vorbis support, this is not mentioned in the manual, or any accompanying documentation. Initial impressions suggest that playback for q3 is good, and correctly plays the entire track, but is not gapless.<br />
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: [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=127 CRB-530] has a documented compatibility with ogg. The ogg is fluid.<br />
: [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=139 CRB-531] is identical, but comes without the ISO adapter cable.<br />
: [http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=126 CRE-520] is similar, but without the Bluetooth feature.<br />
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=== [http://uralauto.ru Ural] [http://www.cdd.ru ConceRt] ===<br />
Russian manufacturer AAC makes an unconventional CD headunit that supports Vorbis and FLAC playback. It is being sold since end of 2005, but difficult to obtain outside Russia. An optional expansion unit provides 2.5" hard disk, USB port and AUX input.<br />
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=== <del>VDO Dayton CD 2803, CD 2737 B</del> ===<br />
:'''Cannot play''' Vorbis.<br />
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=== [http://www.vdodayton.com VDO Dayton] [http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_and_fz_menu=cd_1537_x.aspx CD 1537 X] and [http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_and_fz_menu=cd_1737_x.aspx CD 1737 X] ===<br />
:Manufacturer's site clearly states that these are able to play Ogg Vorbis from CD, SD/MMC and USB 1.1 devices. The 1737 manual states that it can play files between 8 and 192kb/s. Up to 99 files in 99 directories (assume that means 99 in each), with names of up to 32 characters. Favorable review on [http://www.cnetfrance.fr/produits/materiels/systemes-auto-embarques/test/0,3800002254,39367497,00.htm Cnet France] (in French)<br />
Update 4/2009: As of end of 2008 this brand has been discontinued; units are available mostly second hand. The 1537X works well with all sources and file types (tested with Audio CD, MP3/OGG from CD/SD/USB), except for the following drawbacks. It's a pity, with some improvements this could have been a decent player.<br />
* The display (greyish white on light blue) can not be dimmed; may be hard to read in bright light, and too bright in the night.<br />
* Audible background noise when playing files on low volume, but doesn't stick out anymore when driving or turning up the volume.<br />
* Directory search diplays only DOS (8.3) directory names, while file names work fine. Recommended to stick to this legacy convention from the start when naming your dirs for use with this player, else you only get 6 obfuscated characters + "~1" on the display :-(<br />
* Only ASCII characters are displayed and converted to uppercase, everything else is shown as "*".<br />
* SD cards up to 2 GB only. (Large enough to get lost in your directory tree. USB devices may be larger, apparently no limits to the number of files. Tested with a 8 GB keychain.)<br />
* Random playback works only for all files on the media, not per dir/album. Random state isn't remembered on next power on.<br />
* Operation and text display could be better in places.<br />
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=== [http://www.vdodayton.com VDO Dayton] [http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_and_fz_menu=exclusive_line2.aspx Exclusive Line (2008):] [http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_and_fz_menu=tr_7327_b.aspx TR 7327 B] ===<br />
:Advertised to have Ogg Vorbis support with bitrates from 8 up to 192 kbit/s. Manual mentions Ogg Vorbis I information tags for Album / Artist / Track name and such. So far, playback is fine and seems solid. Tag information still needs to be investigated further. Unit plays from either SD/MMC card (not SDHC!), or USB stick with max. 2GB for each. No CD drive, but spurts Bluetooth out of the box at a reasonable price. User Manual and data sheet are available as PDF for download from the product page. Included (but not mentioned anywhere) was a cable for iPod to be connected to a rear AUX input, yet support said it is Audio only, i.e. no iPod operation driven by the head unit.<br />
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=== [http://www.volkswagen-individual.de/ Volkswagen] Golf, Touran and others ===<br />
:From January 2006 onwards all Golf, Golf Plus and Touran models will offer an USB port (MDI), which support USB sticks with music. Today it is available for virtually all models. Supported formats include MP3, WAV, WMA and Vorbis. Note that Ogg Vorbis support is only mentioned on the German Web site. On a related note, the iPod is supported, too.<br />
:The new VW Polo (tested in October 2009) plays MP3, WMA, AAC (in MP4 container and bitstream-only, possible extensions are .MP4, .M4A and .AAC) ''and'' Ogg Vorbis, too.<br />
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=== <del>XcarLink or 'Audio Link" USB/Bluetooth/ipod adapter by Powermark</del> ===<br />
for car audio<br />
:'''Cannot play''' Vorbis.<br />
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=== <del> [http://www.yakumo.com/produkte/index.php?pid=1&ag=Autoradio Yakumo's] Hypersound Car </del>===<br />
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'''Company doesn't exist anymore'''<br />
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:This in-dash car CD player supports Vorbis, MP3, and WMA playback from CD, USB stick or MMC/SD card. Vorbis support is not obvious but are clearly specified in the Technical Specifications page of the user manual, but has been verified to work with both UK and German versions. Reservations [http://www.tomergabel.com/TheQuestForTheHolyErSound.aspx have been made] regarding the product's quality, in particular stability and performance. (There was also a Yakumo Support Forum Discussion, but Yakumo seem to have taken their forums offline as of March 2007. Partial archive [http://www.moteprime.org/article.php?id=30 here].)It supports Vorbis files on USB, MMC/SD and CD. However, as of early 2006 its firmware is notoriously flaky, no firmware update is available, and it also has poor tuner sensitivity. This is also supplied in unbranded form at various retailers, but it does have a distinctive look. [http://www.yakumo.de/produkte/index.php?pid=1&ag=Autoradio <del> Yakumo Car Entertainment </del>]. [http://www.yakumo.com/datafiles/produkte/manuals/man_1037991_38_2_yakumo_hypersound_car_eazy.pdf <del> Online manual </del>]. See also Acoustic Solutions ICS-160.<br />
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''Note: Some of this information was moved from the Mobile Players page, so there may be some duplication.''<br />
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== Media Storage ==<br />
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=== [http://www.gennetworks.com/ GenNetwork's] GenMedia DivXStorage ===<br />
:This is an external harddrive as a video storage to connect to TV sets. It comes in various versions and storage sizes. It comes with USB 2.0 and a remote control. HDTV resolution, 5.1 sound and the following file formats are supported: MPEG-4/DVD/VCD/SVCD/AudioCD/JPEG/MP3. For the [http://www.gennetworks.com/pro_genmedia02.htm 3,5"] and deck version Vorbis format is mentioned.<br />
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=== [http://www.numark.com/ Numark's] HDX, HDMix ===<br />
:These are DJ media players with a 80GB HD on-board and a CD drive. They support Hard Drive Playback of MP3, WMA, WAV, Vorbis, and FLAC (lossless) formats. See [http://www.numark.com/ homepage] for more.<br />
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=== [http://www.cirago.com/ Cirago's] CMC1000 and CMC500 ===<br />
:These are Wireless-capable DVR or maybe just DVP devices.<br />
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<div>'''FLAC''' stands for '''Free Lossless Audio Codec'''. FLAC is an [[wikipedia:audio compression|audio compression]] [[wikipedia:codec|codec]] that is [[wikipedia:lossless data compression|lossless]]. Unlike [[wikipedia:lossy data compression|lossy]] codecs such as [[Vorbis]] and [[wikipedia:MP3|MP3]], it does not remove any information from the audio stream.<br />
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On 2003 January 29th, the [[Xiph.Org Foundation]] announced the incorporation of FLAC under their flag, to go along with Vorbis, [[Theora]], and [[Speex]].<br />
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== The Project ==<br />
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The FLAC project consists of: <br />
* the stream format <br />
* libFLAC, a library of reference encoders and decoders, and a metadata interface <br />
* libFLAC++, an object wrapper around libFLAC <br />
* flac, a command-line wrapper around libFLAC to encode and decode .flac files <br />
* metaflac, a command-line metadata editor for .flac files <br />
* input plugins for various music players ([[wikipedia:Winamp|Winamp]], [[wikipedia:XMMS|XMMS]], [[wikipedia:Foobar2000|foobar2000]], and more in the works)<br />
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"Free" means that the specification of the stream format is in the [[wikipedia:public domain|public domain]] (the FLAC project reserves the right to set the FLAC specification and certify compliance), and that neither the FLAC format nor any of the implemented encoding/decoding methods are covered by any patent. It also means that the sources for libFLAC and libFLAC++ are available under The New BSD license and the sources for flac and metaflac applications, and the plugins are available under the [[wikipedia:GPL|GPL]].<br />
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== Comparisons ==<br />
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FLAC is distinguished from general lossless algorithms such as ZIP and gzip in that it is specifically designed for the efficient packing of audio data; while ZIP may compress a CD-quality audio file 20&ndash;40%, FLAC achieves compression rates of 30&ndash;70%. <br />
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While lossy codecs can achieve ratios of 80&ndash;90+%, they do this at the expense of discarding data from the original stream. Though FLAC uses a similar technique in its encoding process, it also adds "residual" data to allow the decoder to restore the original waveform flawlessly.<br />
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FLAC has become the preferred lossless format for trading live music online. It has a smaller file size than Shorten, and unlike MP3, it's lossless, which ensures the highest fidelity to the source material, which is important to live music traders. It has recently become a favorite trading format of non-live lossless audio traders as well.<br />
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There are other lostless audio codecs, however: WAVPACK (marginally better compression, slower), TAK, Monkey's audio and some more. <br />
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FLAC compiles on many platforms: most Unices (including Linux, *BSD, Solaris, and Mac OS X), DOS, Windows, BeOS, and OS/2. There are build systems for autoconf/automake, MSVC, Watcom C, and Project Builder.<br />
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== More information ==<br />
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* [[FLACDecoders]]: List of decoders<br />
* [[FLACEncoders]]: List of encoders<br />
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== Non-PC playback support ==<br />
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FLAC is supported by a wide range of devices. The [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|portable players Vorbis support matrix]] also contains information about FLAC support. Other examples of FLAC supporting devices are:<br />
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* [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio]]: http://www.iaudio.com<br />
* Kenwood Music Keg<br />
* Naim HDX: http://www.naim-audio.com/products/hdx.html<br />
* PhatNoise Home Media Player<br />
* PhatNoise Phatbox<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk#Rio Karma|Rio Karma]]: http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/rioaudio/<br />
* [[StaticPlayers#Slim_Devices_Squeezebox.2C_Squeezebox2.2C_Squeezebox3.2C_Transporter|SlimDevices Squeezebox]]: http://www.slimdevices.com<br />
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FLAC is supported by the following chips and/or chipsets:<br />
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* VLSI Solution OY's [http://www.vlsi.fi/en/products/vs1053.html VS1053b] decodes FLAC<br />
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== External links ==<br />
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*[http://flac.sourceforge.net/ Project homepage]<br />
*[http://mikewren.com/flac/ Unofficial FLAC installer for Windows]<br />
*[http://www.danrules.com/macflac/ MacFLAC] [[GUI]] frontend to encode/decode FLAC on [[Mac OS X]]<br />
*[[Wikipedia: FLAC]]<br />
*[http://www.losslessaudioblog.com/ The Lossless Audio Blog] Lossless Audio News & Information Site.<br />
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<div>Here you'll find all mobile players known to natively support [[Vorbis]].<br />
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When updating this information, please consider these guidelines: Use the term Vorbis not <strike>OGG</strike> ([[Ogg]] is the container format, Vorbis is the codec name). Add information about other Xiph-codecs such as Speex, FLAC, and Theora. Do not add information about non-Xiph-codecs such as MP3, WMA, or WAV.<br />
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This page contains a [[PortablePlayers#Portable Vorbis Native Support Table|handy overview table]] of recent portable players that play [[Ogg]] Vorbis files. Very detailed descriptions of these and many more players (old and new) are available on these sub-pages:<br />
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* [[PortablePlayers/Flash|Flash Memory Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk|Harddisk Storage]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#CD.2FDVD_Audio_Players|CD/DVD Audio Players]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Mobile_Phones|Mobile Phones]]<br />
* [[PortablePlayers/Others#Others|Others]]<br />
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== Portable Vorbis Native Support Table ==<br />
{| style="font-size: 85%; text-align: center;" class="wikitable sortable" <br />
! Brand<br />
! Model<br />
! Additional Xiph codecs<br />
! FM<br />
! Voice Rec<br />
! Interface<br />
! USB Mass storage<br />
! MTP<br />
! Built-in Capacity (GB)<br />
! Additional Capacity via<br />
! Storage Type<br />
! Estim. battery life<br />
! other<br />
! Estimated price<br />
! In Production?<br />
|-<br />
<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
| 28g weight<br />
| 50 Eur<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Clip+]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 11 h<br />
| 25g weight<br />
| 50 Eur<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! SanDisk<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#SanDisk_Sansa_Clip_and_Sansa_Fuze|Sansa Fuze]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 20 h<br />
| 60g weight, video<br />
| 62 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio U5]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 8 h<br />
|<br />
| 85 USD(?)<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! Cowon<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#Cowon.2FiAudio_D2.2C_F2.2C_T2.2C_U3.2C_U2.2C_G3.2C_5.2C_G2.2C_U5.2C_7|iAudio 9]]<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 30 h<br />
| 42g weight, video<br />
| 139 Eur<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Trekstor<br />
! [[PortablePlayers/Flash#TrekStor.27s_blaxx.2C_iBeat_cody.2C_iBeat_organix_2.0.2C_iBeat_sonix.2C|iBeat Organix 2.0]]<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 8<br />
|<br />
| Flash<br />
| 50 h<br />
|<br />
| 50 Eur<br />
| ?<br />
|-<br />
! HTC<br />
! Hero<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB 2.0<br />
| yes<br />
|<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
|<br />
| 135g, Android phone<br />
| 309 £<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.04<br />
|-<br />
! Intenso<br />
! Music Twister<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 9 h<br />
| 21g<br />
| 30 Eur<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Archos<br />
! Clipper<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 2<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 15g<br />
| 25 Eur<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Grundig<br />
! MPaxx 940<br />
|<br />
| no<br />
| no<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| no<br />
| 4<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 12 h<br />
| 17g<br />
| 35 Eur<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! iRiver<br />
! E150<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 21 h<br />
| 64g, video, line-in<br />
| 100 Eur<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Philips<br />
! GoGear Muse<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 16<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 35 h<br />
| 90g, video<br />
| 150 $<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-R1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 8<br />
| no<br />
| Flash<br />
| 25 h<br />
| 51g, video<br />
| 139 Eur<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|-<br />
! Samsung<br />
! YP-M1<br />
| FLAC<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| USB ?<br />
| yes<br />
| yes<br />
| 32<br />
| MicroSD<br />
| Flash<br />
| 31 h<br />
| 95g<br />
| 350 Eur<br />
| Yes, as of 2010.06<br />
|}<br />
<br />
@wiki-admins: It looks like this mediawiki instance does not support nice table cell templates (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BitTorrent_clients#Operating_system_support this example]). The support for this table related features would really improve this table layout.</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=Talk:PortablePlayers&diff=12249Talk:PortablePlayers2010-06-27T10:07:23Z<p>Gsauthof: /* Move Flash/HD-sections to dedicated pages */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Discontinued players ==<br />
I think that discontinued players should be moved into a different section. Not necessarily removed, as many are still available on clearance/refurbished/used.<br />
<br />
The question is, how to make the split? I see three possibilities:<br />
# Discontinued players on a separate page<br />
# same page, but separate top-level section. e.g.:<br />
#* Current devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
#* Discontinued devices<br />
#** Flash-memory devices<br />
#** HD devices<br />
#** CD/DVD devices<br />
# make a subsection within each section. e.g.:<br />
#* Flash-memory devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* HD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
#* CD/DVD devices<br />
#**Current devices<br />
#**Discontinued devices<br />
<br />
I'll hold off any updates right now, but I'll check back in a few days/weeks/whenever and see if there's any opinions here. If there's no disagreement by then, and noone has beat me to it, I'll take the initiative. [[User:Bsammon|Bsammon]] 03:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== List of top five players ==<br />
It would be a good idea to have a few (five?) players at the top with images that are considered to be the best *recent* devices. I don't think any of the MP3 using masses will use this page to choose their next music player unless it lists recent devices, and presents a choice of five or six at the top, with images, and links to sites that they can buy them from. Also, could someone put up a notice to remind people it's not OGG, or Ogg! It's Ogg Vorbis, or if you must, Vorbis. - thehumanerror 25th December 2006<br />
<br />
I totally agree with the above. This page was next to useless for me when I was shopping for a Vorbis player since I was overwhelmed with choices. Add to that the fact that many products have been discontinued or cannot be bought new and there's a recipe for disaster. - erpo41 October 17th, 2007<br />
<br />
I also agree with the above; the primary reason I am not using Ogg Vorbis (I keep a parallel collection of mp3 and flac files) is I cannot easily find a portable player. I don't know that reorganizing this wiki page will help. I did comb through this page; basically all of the listed hard disk players are from one off manufacturers or not being manufactured any more. There are plenty of nice flash storage based devices and cell phones (from Samsung and others), but that is not what I am looking for. Also, I'm not interested in hacking my iPod. (I do embedded linux development enough at work; I'll pay someone else to get my media player working). Until this is addressed, Ogg Vorbis is going to remain out of use; which is a shame because for every other reason it is the best (in my opinion). --Kevin Holzer, January 10, 2009<br />
<br />
:Yes. This is a good idea. Create a section at the top. Polish it well. And perhaps add a free-licensed photo. Anyone up for it?--[[User:Saoshyant|Ivo]] 06:41, 17 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
I would rather see just a simple feature matrix (sorted so that unavailable devices are listed at the bottom, or just not listed at all). See talk below. Maybe preferred choises could be raised to the top thought! I agree that current list is quite unusable.<br />
<br />
== Recording in Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
I would like to know which Players can '''record''' in Vorbis?! -- [[User:217.186.150.213|217.186.150.213]] 17:03, 26 Dec 2004 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Ditto. Absolutely vital information. Do any of the players listed also record in Vorbis? If anyone has experience with A player, please state specifically whether it does or does not record in Vorbis.[[User:Nickhill|Nickhill]] 15:04, 4 June 2006 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::Never heard of one that does, and there isn't a fixed point reference encoder, which makes it unlikely.<br />
<br />
== Pretec Allegro may need firmware update ==<br />
<br />
I recently purchased a Pretec Allegro, but was unable to play Oggs for three months, until the firmware update was made available on 14 or 15 March 2005. Now it works well! (So far, listening to -q3 Oggs). I'd hope that units purchased after this date already has the firmware update, but you never know. Installing the update is as simple as placing the .rom on the USB-storage-device media (eg flash disk), starting up the unit, and pressing the play button. -- Hugo van der Merwe<br />
: How much battery runtime do you get playing Oggs compared with playing mp3? [[User:Phr|Phr]] 02:05, 27 Aug 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Any player with Removable Memory Cards ==<br />
<br />
The NexBlack (see [[PortablePlayers]] ) has removable compact flash and batteries.<br />
<br />
Every single Vorbis-capable portable player out there seems to come with built-in flash memory. Which is stupid, because I don't want to fire up my computer and plug in the player every time I get tired of the tracks on my player. Plus flash memory has a limited lifetime (write cycles) and so does your player with built-in memory. The same applies for built-in rechargable batteries. <br />
<br />
Now when would you ever need to buy your second device without any moving parts if you could just change flash memory and batteries? Ok, that's the industrie's point of view but not mine. I want to go on vacation with music and batteries for one week of non-stop music - without a power source or computer nearby.<br />
<br />
So, any hint to where I might find a portable audio player that can play back ogg vorbis files and uses SD flash cards (and preferably AAA-batteries) would be greatly appreciated.<br />
* Me too! If the [http://enox.co.kr/2004/eng/product/product_830_01.asp Enox EMX-830] took SD cards it'd be perfect. --[[User:Rgm|rgm]] 14:41, 7 Nov 2005 (PST)<br />
<br />
* SanDisk Sansa e250/e260/e270/e280 has a microSD-card slot. With ROCKbox it plays Ogg/Vorbis and more.[[User:Nostromo|Nostromo]] 15:26, 29 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
The Pretec Allegro is not the slickest player out there, it's LCD backlight seems to give off a high-pitched whine, which not everyone can hear (it kind-of screams in my ears though, so I put the backlight timer on 1 second so it doesn't scream too long). It is, however, the only one I now know of that can play Oggs, and uses removable media. If you want a nicely portable device, you have to use Pretec's "iDisk tiny" usb flash disk, the only thing that will fit inside. You can also, however, connect some USB SD-card reader with it's cable, then listen to Oggs off of SD. A little unwieldy, but, it works, and is the only thing *I* know of. (I stopped following developments in December though, when I bought it...)<br />
<br />
== Samsung / Yepp ==<br />
<br />
Moved to [[Talk:PortablePlayersSamsungYepp]]<br />
<br />
== UniBrain iZak ==<br />
<br />
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this; I'm new to wikis.<br />
<br />
The UniBrain iZak was added, then removed recently, with the comment that it doesn't claim to play Ogg Vorbis.<br />
<br />
The FAQ is available here: [http://www.unibrain.com/support/FAQ_iZak.htm iZak FAQ] and Question/Answer 24 says:<br />
<br />
'22. Can iZak™ support OGG audio files?<br />
<br />
Yes, iZak™ fully supports OGG playback using the latest firmware.'<br />
<br />
:I was the one that removed it. In their specs linked from the main page, I saw that they listed only MP3 and WMA support for music formats. Obviously they need to update their promotional material! I went ahead and added the iZak back in, making a point to mention that the most current version of the firmware now supports Ogg Vorbis and linking to their FAQ as evidence. [[User:Saxifrage|Saxifrage]] 02:36, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Splendid. I didn't want to just stick it back after it had been taken out.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 05:14, 5 May 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Entempo Spirit ==<br />
<br />
This inexpensive player from Entempo had listed Vorbis as a "Supported Audio Format", but the device will not index the Vorbis files into it's menus -- let alone play the files. Tested with both the stock and most recent firmware, May 29, 2005. Vendor had been contacted and removed Vorbis support claims from their website, but has not provided any resolution to customers which purchased the product expecting this support. The company's webpage has disappeared as of Feb 2006.<br />
<br />
== Lexar LDP-800 dropped ==<br />
It seems that Lexar have abondoned the LDP-800. The following was posted by a user on [http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.1055 dapreview.net]<br />
" Unfortunately, lexar will not offer the LDP-800, but will focus instead<br />
on its existing LDP Players that already offer appealing features and<br />
benefits to meet a variety of consumer needs."<br />
Shame.--[[User:Ipl|Ipl]] 06:15, 22 Jul 2005 (PDT)<br />
<br />
There's more info on that dapreview thread that indicates some confusion within Lexar. Currently, it looks like the release is going to happen in early September.<br />
<br />
Update 2005-11-11: after inquiries to Lexar's "new products" personnel, I received a telephone message that the LDP-800 will definitely "is not going to see the light of day." Ask me if you want details. I agree that it's a shame since this looked to be an outstanding product. --[[User:dfavro|dfavro]]<br />
<br />
== Hong Kong Dream-tech Electronic DT-202, works? please confirm ==<br />
http://hkdream-tech.com<br />
An ebay seller says that it can reproduce Vorbis. This is unconfirmed. In the manufacturer web it says: MP3, WMA, WAV, DMV and etc. <br />
<br />
Some webpage also says that it works on Windows, Mac and Linux. Also unconfirmed.<br />
Further investigation required.<br />
<br />
== Trekstor i.Beat Cube ==<br />
This player seems to be very similar to the Samsung Yepp YP-T6, possibly with the [[#Yepp_MT-6X|same problems]] regarding Vorbis playback. Trekstor has moved [http://www.trekstor.de/en/produkte/mp3-player/ibeat-cube.html info about this player] from "MP3-Player" to the "Archive" section which propably means that it is not produced anymore.<br />
<br />
== The Muzio jm300 / jm-300 does NOT play Vorbis ==<br />
<br />
NB this is the jm-300 (not 100 or 200)<br />
<br />
I bought this a month ago. I've been unable to play Vorbis files on<br />
it. It simply shows these as 'etc' files and skips over them.<br />
<br />
Pitty really, this was the main reason I chose this player.<br />
<br />
I've seen lots of discussion about the muzio playing oggs, is there<br />
anybody there who owns a jm300 and is actually playing oggs ? I can't<br />
help think I've juts missed something basic.<br />
<br />
== Layout of the PortablePlayers list and Feature matrix ==<br />
It's gone! I've moved this discussion to [[Talk:PortablePlayersv2]]. [[User:Imalone|Imalone]] 10:55, 18 November 2006 (PST)<br />
<br />
:Is there something very wrong with those proposals? I mean, is there any reason why (even a simple) feature matrix just could not be applied right now? It would probably solve 'list of top 5 players' problem above too. Just list something basic from the main features, name, size, weight, price, battery (internal, aa, aaa, ..), capasity, flash card type (sd, microsd, ..) , availability (current or discontinued), supported formats, charging (usb or propietary or none). Link to the longer comments. No complicated sorting or anything too fancy. No icons. Name can be a abbreviation to save space, use it as a link to current comments.<br />
<br />
== NEXBlack out ==<br />
<br />
I got my NEXBlack player today from Frontier Labs. It is a nice gadget with sleek design. They have corrected the occasional snap-sounds that came between tracks and it is overall more usable now. Vorbis-files also play fine, but the current firmware doesn't have Vorbis-tag reader, which is somewhat major drawback. The music selection works through mp3-tags and you can select by album, artist, genre and playlist, but since Vorbis tags won't work you have to select "unordered" to play them. Vorbis-files are all listed in one big list. I hope they either implement a Vorbis-tag reader or revert to old Nex IIe system where you could select by folder in the flash disc. But for the cheap price ($89), it is a good player... waiting for a new firmware..<br />
<br />
== Sumvision M18/S1 ==<br />
<br />
I've just got the 2GB Sumvision and it plays the OGG files I've tested so far. Should I add it to the list? [[User:Steevc|Steevc]] 04:05, 19 April 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Humble A2 Review ==<br />
<br />
Just a blog link [http://www.personal.psu.edu/gsc127/blogs/2007/10/happiness-with-cowon-a2.html to my review of the the Cowon A2]. Thanks, [[User:GChriss|GChriss]] 13:23, 6 November 2007 (PST)<br />
<br />
== iRiver e100 ==<br />
<br />
[http://reviews.cnet.com/4566-6490_7-0.html?filter=1000036_5260177_ CNet] and [http://www.amazon.com/iRiver-E100-Multimedia-Player-White/dp/B00171UYYS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1208253617&sr=8-5 Amazon] are saying the iRiver e100 supports Vorbis. I haven't tested it myself. [[User:Mattflaschen|Mattflaschen]] 03:09, 15 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== Bought an vorbis-enabled player recently? Tell us where! ==<br />
<br />
I have started a page that should allow people easier purchasing of vorbis-enabled players: [[PortablePlayers_per_Place]]<br />
<br />
Everyone, who bought an vorbis-enabled player recently should update the page with place and model.<br />
<br />
== Move Flash/HD-sections to dedicated pages ==<br />
<br />
Hi,<br />
<br />
IMHO the PortablePlayers page is too long. I want to split it into several pages for each main section. Like [[PortablePlayers/Flash]], [[PortablePlayers/Harddisk]] etc.. Sure, one have to fix some links then, but I am convinced this step would increase the usability a lot.<br />
What do you think about that? --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 01:20, 31 March 2009 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:Since there were no objections I restructured the page as planned. --[[User:Gsauthof|Gsauthof]] 10:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)</div>Gsauthofhttps://wiki.xiph.org/index.php?title=PortablePlayers/Flash&diff=12248PortablePlayers/Flash2010-06-26T17:06:25Z<p>Gsauthof: /* SanDisk Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze */</p>
<hr />
<div>:in each description, please say if the device works "out of the box" or you have to install any software to use it properly (if the extra-software is optional, then it doesn't matter).<br />
<br />
<i>From the information below (see the "Chinese MP4" and "PowerUp!" items), it is possible that all Chinese made [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1_MP3_Player S1 MP3] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player MP4] players can play the Ogg Vorbis file format, even though their manuals or advertisements do not mention this. Since many tens of millions of these units have been sold worldwide, there is a potentially huge, undocumented, base of portable media players which can play the Ogg Vorbis format. If you have one of these Chinese made players, just give it a try and see. [http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/126069 Here] is one cheap unbranded Chinese 1GB mp3 player that supports vorbis.</i><br><br><br />
<br />
<i>It is appropriate to say that in brazilian consumer market, there are unbranded MP3 players such as [http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-71404870-mp3-player-2-gb-pen-drive-gravador-de-voz-radio-fm-_JM this one] that can flawlessly play Ogg Vorbis files. There are many of them branded as "Sony". I have tested one "Sony" and it does play Ogg Vorbis. If you have one of these players and know that they can play Ogg Vorbis, please inform which chipset these devices are equipped with. Many of these players can also be identified as having the following writings "MP3/WMA/FM/REC". All these are basically 1GB/2GB USB pen drives. </i><br />
<br />
== Flash Memory Storage ==<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.netonnet.se/item.asp?iid=61510 Avant] MP-8256, MP-85me12, MP-81000 ===<br />
:No official website, product no longer available for purchase, but three models existed: MP-8256 (256MB memory), MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Some features are a small colour display, 5-band Equalizer, FM-stereo radio, Line in, Microphone, and Charging via USB2.0.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=374 Bang & Olufsen] BeoSound 6 ===<br />
:It has 4GB of storage, USB 1.1 and 2.0 support and a small TFT LCD color display. Although advertised as Windows and Mac OS 9.2 and higher only, the device is a Mass Storage device and is perfectly usable in Linux as well. Supports Vorbis quality levels up to Q10. B&O have co-operated with Samsung to develop the device.<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.centon.com/ Centon CraZe] ===<br />
:8G model (at least) from [http://www.buy.com/ Buy.com] seems to have either s1mp3 or sigmatel chipset, worked fresh out of box. It is USB rechargeable device with monochrome LCD and multicolored backlight plus FM stereo. Doc only mentions mp3 and wma, not vorbis.<br />
<br />
=== [http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7996764346.html Cool-Karaoke] ===<br />
:The DRM-free Cool-Karaoke supports MP3, OGG, WAV, and FLAC audio formats and MPG, AVI, and FLV video formats. Runs an ARM920t processor clocked to 400MHz, with 4GB and up NAND Flash. Battery charges through USB cable. Built in equalizer allows tuning down the voice freqencies for sing-alongs.<br />
<br />
=== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_MP4/MTV_player Chinese MP4 players sold on eBay] ===<br />
: I've tried two different MP4 nano lookalikes from different manufacturers and different eBay sellers, and both will play Ogg Vorbis fine, even though none of the documentation or product advertisements say this. Before you buy one, you should check out the eBay FAQ on MP4 players first. <br />
<br />
=== Coby MP-C7052 ===<br />
:While it does support Vorbis, buyer beware. Poor ratings at [http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/coby-mp-c7052-512mb/4505-6490_7-32466874.html cnet.com]: "utterly fails at its intended purpose"<br />
<br />
=== [http://www.cowonamerica.com Cowon/iAudio] D2, F2, T2, U3, U2, G3, 5, G2, U5, 7 ===<br />
:NOTE: The U3 and 7 both are buggy with Vorbis, in that they exhibit artifacts in the lower frequency range. As of firmware 1.29 on the U3, and 1.17 on the 7, both are broken. Cowon fixed this on the D2 about firmware 2.41 onward, and on the 7 with release 1.18 (29-MAY-2009). By way of a code examination, it appears the U5 does not suffer from this bug (On Cowon players that have the issue, there is a hex string which matches a low precision table. On the ones that do not have the issue, it has the correct normal precision value. This is referring to the Tremor decoder used). Most people describe this as a mild high pitched squeak. See this forum [http://www.cowonamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13253 post] for more details. Some also say the iriver Clix 2 has this issue as well. Cowon on the D2 firmware page does not specifically mention that they fixed this issue.<br />
:The iAudio U2 is a small flash-based player (256MB/512MB/1GB) and supports Vorbis. Early U2 releases required a firmware upgrade for Vorbis support; as of September 2005 this support was included in the retail version. The iAudio G3 and iAudio 5 offer up to 2GB, and support Ogg Vorbis out-of-the-box. The G2 has storage from 256 MB up to 1 GB and supports the same formats. iAudio U3 is Cowon's last candy bar form factor flash-based player with a 5 way navigation control. It also supports FLAC and MPEG-4 video. All these players will talk to Linux or Mac (but the included software is Windows only. You'll need Windows for firmware updates.).<br />
:The G3, and most likely the other models as well, supports Ogg Vorbis from q0. Quality settings q-1 and q-2 (from the aoTuV ogg encoder) are not supported. It supports the meta tags ''album'' (limited length) and ''title''.<br />
:iAudio F2 flash memory, 512MB/1GB/2GB versions supporting Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio T2 flash memory 1GB/2GB, supports Vorbis. USB 2.0, supports Linux and Mac (Windows needed for firmware updates).<br />
:iAudio 7 is Cowon's current small form factor flash based player with touch controls for most functions and comes in 4, 8 and 16GB versions and supports Vorbis and FLAC. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates). Reading Ogg tags not supported (requires browsing music in 'files' mode rather than in 'tags' mode).<br />
:iAudio D2 comes in 4, 8 or 16GB capacities and can use SD and SDHC flash memory cards, supports music and movies supporting FLAC and Vorbis. USB 2.0 file transfer, Linux and Mac compatible (including firmware updates).<br />
:The ''iAudio U5'' is a player with 8 GB flash and USB (speed is at USB 1.0 level). The player is out of the box configurable as USB-mass-storage-device or MTP-device. It is available since early 2008. It supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC since at least firmware 2.10. A firmware update is possible in mass-storage-mode, i.e. without additional proprietary software. The firmware is available at the US and Global site. The 2.10 firmware has multi language support, i.e. you can select for example english as language after flashing. Note however, that the FLAC/Vorbis firmware loses support for tag based browsing (as of version 3.16).<br />
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=== Craig ===<br />
:Model No. CMP622E. 2GB. Even if the package of this product does not mention .ogg support it does! I bought this at a CVS pharmacy.<br />
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=== D-Wave 9830 ===<br />
:Polish player with 2GB of internal memory. Supports Vorbis and has a FM radio, TFT display, ebook reader.<br />
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=== [http://www.audiodaihatsu.com.ar/productos.asp?cat=17 Daihatsu] D-Z40, D-Z20, D-Z10 ===<br />
:Daihatsu sells in Argentina 1, 2 and 4 GB music players that support vorbis Q0 to Q10 out of the box. I tested the D-Z40 one. Maybe they are available under a different brand in othe places.<br />
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=== ENOX EMX-830, EMX-900, EMX-530 ===<br />
:'The lightest and the smallest one among AAA type [http://www.superstoresearch.com/shopping/categories/4359-1/electronics/personal-audio/mp3-digital-media-players.html MP3 players].' Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV, and Ogg Vorbis, has FM tuner, line-in and mic with direct MP3 encoding. Comes with 128/256/512/1024 MB flash memory and USB 2.0 interface. The EMX-900 has up to 1 GB storage and supports the same file formats. <br />
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=== [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx Pyramid MP3 & MP4 Players and Player Acccessories] MP3/MP4 Players ===<br />
:There is a wide range of [http://www.pyramid.com/Electronics/MP3_And_MP4_Players.aspx MP3 and MP4 Players] to choose from on Pyramid.com and other similar sites.<br />
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=== EZAV T2, EMP-600, EMP-500, EMP-400 ===<br />
:All players support Ogg Vorbis, MP3, ASF, and WMA codecs, FM radio recording (FM, voice, and line-in). The EMP-400 has 256MB and 512MB storage. The other players have storage options up to 1GB. The EMP-600 and T2 have full color displays and add support for a proprietary video format.<br />
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=== [http://www.fascin8.co.uk/f8/index.php/tevion/mp4/6940/11-mp4/42-6940 Fascin8] 6940 (Tevion) ===<br />
:Sold in the UK at the ALDI supermarket stores, under their brand name "Tevion" the 6940 model is a 2GB multimedia player that can receive DAB radio and has a colour screen for viewing Jpegs and movies. It connects via a USB2 interface, and appears as a mass storage device. It claims to play Vorbis files, and does so without problems. The USB connector at the player end is non-standard, but extra cables can be obtained from the manufacturer.<br />
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=== [http://www.gp2x.com/ Gamepark Holdings] GP2X ===<br />
:Linux-based handheld audio/video/game player. Uses SD cards for storage, removable batteries (AA) providing 6-8 hours of music listening.<br />
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=== [http://www.grundig.de/ Grundig ] MPaxx 920 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 25 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== i-BEAD 170, 400, 600 ===<br />
:The i-BEAD 170 & 400 models are small, light flash-based players with built in Lithium-Polymer batteries. They also have OLED displays, and FM & line-in recording. Both are available in 256MB/512MB/1GB and both support Ogg Vorbis after a firmware upgrade. The i-BEAD 600 has up to 2 GB storage and is very small and supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. PLEASE NOTE: Ogg Vorbis files encoded using pre-1.0 versions of the encoder will not work with these players.<br />
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=== [http://www.imedian.co.kr/ iMedian] M-Cody M-20, MX-100, 250, 400, 300, 500, 700 ===<br />
:According to the homepage, they support Ogg Vorbis (besides MP3, WMA (some devices w/ DRM), ASF, WAV). Some come with a FM Receiver, USB 2.0 and work even as IR remote. One has a OLED, the others have colour LCDs. Battery and memory is internal. I infer from a review that the MX-100 is the same as a Rio SU70, but I haven't found any information about that rio gadget, though. The M-20 is the newest model, a thin portable in response to the iPod Shuffle. It looks exactly like Maxfield's Max-Sin Touch.<br />
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=== [http://insigniaproducts.com/products/portable-audio.html?active=false Insignia] Pilot and Sport ===<br />
:Insignia is Best Buy's own brand. Seemingly discontinued, they were advertised to support Ogg Vorbis. The Pilot supports Ogg Vorbis and GNU/Linux out of the box. Haven't tried the Sport. 2GB, 4GB and 8GB models available. The Sport does not support any tags. Ogg files can not be used in playlists. Ogg files can not be shuffled. Thus, there is no way to order the files. Windows shows an error that the format is not supported when dragging over ogg files to the player. All also support bluetooth.<br />
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=== [http://www.iops.co.kr/enghome/index.html Iops] X7, Z5, Z3, F5, F4, MFP-312, MFP-325, MFP-350 ===<br />
:Newer players offer video and photo support (X7, Z5, F5). Iops offers the MFP-300 series player with 128/256/512MB/1GB internal flash memory. They offer voice and FM radio recording whilst maintaining a lightweight portable size.<br />
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=== [http://www.iriver.com/ iRiver's] E100, iFP-3xx, iFP-5xx, iFP-7xx, iFP-8xx, iFP-9xx, iFP-10xx, iFP-11xx, Lplayer, T7, T10, T20, T30, T50, T60, U10, Clix, Clix2, X20 ===<br />
:iRiver has a huge line of flash-based players with various memory sizes (128MB to 2GB). Some of these players may need an updated firmware in order to play Ogg Vorbis files, see the [http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/ support download page] for that. Note — on older players, only certain bitrates are supported, various problems are reported including reboots, silence and random noise when a VBR Vorbis passes outside the limit (either under 96Kbps or over 225 Kbps). Newer players don't have this limitation. However, please be alerted that many of the newer players, such as the Clix, use the Microsoft MTP transfer protocol exclusively so they only work with Windows, whereas other players may be shipped with MTP, but have alternate non-MTP firmware available for download. Tag support not present on U10/Clix (others also?), so Vorbis files will appear under 'unknown artist'/'unknown album'. Please note that the H10 model does not (yet?) support ogg, and can operate in both MTP and UMS (mass storage) modes. [http://easyh10.sf.net./ More information]. Confirmed that the T50 and T60 players support Ogg Vorbis, use UMS and have complete tag support out of the box.<br />
** The iRiver Clix 4GB ('''not''' the iRiver Clix gen 2) available at [[http://www.bhphotovideo.com/]] supports Ogg Vorbis audio and metadata (artist/album/song names). The following notes apply:<br />
*** The latest firmware, 2.6.0.0, was installed during the test. It is not known whether or not this is required for Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
*** Windows XP SP2 with Windows Media Player 11 (or later) is absolutely required. '''Windows Media Player 10 will not work.'''<br />
*** MTP is the only method to access the device. '''UMS will not work.'''<br />
*** Once Windows Media Player 11 has been installed, other programs such as Windows Explorer or Winamp can be used to load Vorbis songs normally.<br />
*** Do not confuse the iRiver Clix with the iRiver Clix gen 2. These notes apply only to the iRiver Clix.<br />
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=== [http://www.jensofsweden.com/ Jens Of Sweden's] MP-120, MP-130, MP-400, MP-450, MP-500 ===<br />
:The MP-130 is a portable player with flash memory in 128/256/512MB sizes. This appears to be a rebranded Iops player. The MP-400 is a tiny machine with lots of features (line in, mic, fm radio, usb 2.0). With the updated 4.1 firmware it supports Ogg Vorbis files encoded with libvorbis version 1.0rc2 or later. When trying to play files encoded with earlier versions it freezes on playback, requiring an USB connect or reset button pressed (through a tiny hole) to wake up again. The MP-120, a 1Gb flash player, supports Ogg Vorbis with a firmware upgrade since March 2005. MP-120 still doesn't play old Ogg Vorbis files, but they don't make it freeze up. The MP-450 is basically a MP-400 with color o<br />
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=== [http://www.jnc-digital.com/Eng/ JNC's] SSF-2002, SSF-2005 ===<br />
:These are flash-based players with 256 MB respectively 512 MB storage capacity. They have the usual FM radio which can be recorded in addition to voice. They also have a 1,9" color display.<br />
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=== [http://www.kingston.com/ Kingston] [http://www.kingston.com/flash/kpex.asp K-PEX 100] ===<br />
:Two versions available but are now discontinued (as at March 2007): with 1 GB or 2 GB internal memory. Both models have an extra miniSD memory card storage slot. Ogg playback is sticky at high quality settings. (firmware v2.09) The internal equalizer is disabled when playing ogg. (firmware v2.09) This device is a rebranded Cenix GMP-M6.<br />
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=== [http://www.lexar.com/mp3/index.html Lexar's] LDP-800 ===<br />
:Available from 03/2005 the LDP-800 is offering MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis Support with 256/512MB storage. It has a digital out, FM receiver and transmitter, can record from FM, mic and line-in and has a SD-card slot. Includes Sennheiser earbuds. Update: A telephoned sales representative informed on 2005-04-15 that this player would be available sometime in June. Update again: A sales representative telephoned on 2005-06-20 again stated that the player would be available sometime in June. However, a sales representitave at [http://www.ecost.com/ eCOST], an online store carrying the LDP-800, stated that their availability date is now 2005-07-15. Lexar now seem to have dropped this product. See discussion.<br />
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=== [http://www.lowrance.com/ Lowrance's] iFINDER Expedition C, Hunt C, PhD, iWay 350C, possibly others. ===<br />
:GPS units, certain models, support playing MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files stored on the SD/MMC card, which is primarily there to hold map files and route/track data. The item descriptions only mention mp3, you have to dig into the manual or actually use the device to discover Vorbis support. What a nice surprise! Many units seem to include voice-recorder functionality too, for tagging waypoints with audio notes, but it's not clear what codec they record in.<br />
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=== [http://www.lge.com.au/ LG's] UPANW5HSSI, UPANW1GSSI, UPANL1GSSI, UPANR1GSSI, UPANB1GSSI, FM30 ===<br />
: Flash players with 512MB and 1GB capacity. The have no display other than a single multicolour LED. New FM30 model has a large colour display. The FM30 (and likely the older models, as well) does not support Vorbis metadata tags.<br />
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=== [http://www.maxfield.de/ Maxfield's] Max-Ivy, Max-Diamond, Max-Movie, Max-Diablo, Max-Sin Touch ===<br />
: The Max-Diamond supports MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WMA (DRM). It has 512MB flash memory and can record from FM radio. The Max-Movie has 1GB storage and supports DivX, MP3 WMA (DRM) and Ogg Vorbis. It also has FM radio and a display with 260.000 colors. The Max-Diablo supports the same audio formats, but can also display pictures and videos on its small OLED (4096 colors). It has 1GB storage. Max-Sin Touch has 512 MB or 1 GB internal memory. Not to be confused with Maxfield Max-Sin, which doesn't have ogg support. Max-Sin Touch looks exactly like M-Cody M-20.<br />
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:: While the Max-Sin Touch does play Ogg Vorbis, it only does so with occasional glitches, at least with a device bought in November 2006. Perhaps a future firmware upgrade might help, but I'm skeptical. At this time, I cannot recommend the player. ― [[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 22:48, 22 November 2006 (PST)<br />
::: It looks like there won't be any firmware upgrades in future. Maxfield GmbH became insolvent in january.<br />
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=== [http://www.mbird.co.kr/ M-bird's] XT-22S, XR-22 ===<br />
: Available in 256MB/512MB/1GB sizes. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis (although it doesn't seem to view tag info, will probably be fixed in future firmwares (?)), but also MP3 and WMA. It has small 200 mW built-in speaker. Inverted display with the ability to choose the foreground colour in 125 steps. Other features include FM-radio, voice recorder (built-in mic), line-in, alarm, and more. While XR-22 support memory upto 2GB and functions are similar to XT-22S.<br />
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=== [http://en.meizu.com/ Meizu] M6 miniPlayer ===<br />
:Available in 1/2/4GB capacities. USB 2.0. Supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC as well as MP3, MP2, WMA. DRM10 support should be supported with future firmware updates. 2.4", 260k color display, text, photo (BMP, JPG, GIF), and video (AVI), FM radio/recording, built-in mic for voice recording. English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and partial Hebrew language support. You can buy an an external battery pack which is rumored to enable USB On-The-Go support sometime in the future.<br />
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=== Mediacom JukeBox Movie 150-C 2GB ===<br />
I created an "Ogg data, Vorbis audio, mono, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I" using Avidemux. It plays awesome!<br />
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=== [http://www.mobiblu.com/ MobiBLU] Cube2, DAH-2100, US2, BOXON ===<br />
: All the above players support Ogg Vorbis (Q1-Q10). The B153 and DAH-1500i models do not mention ogg Vorbis in their specifications<br />
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=== MP3 MP-8256, MP-8512, MP-81000 ===<br />
:Looks like another whitebox label. No official website found yet, but three models are offered in shops: MP-8256 with 256MB memory, MP-8512 (512MB) and MP-81000 (1GB). Plays not only Ogg Vorbis, but [[MP3]], [[WMA]] and even BMP and Textfiles via small colour display. USB 2.0 interface. Sufficient quality in playback and recording (Radio/Line-In).<br />
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=== [http://www.mpmaneurope.com/product.aspx?product_id=77 MPMan] MP-FUB34 MP-CS157 ===<br />
:The mpman FUB34 and FUB35 are available (March 2007) in the UK in electrical stores such as Comet and come in 128MB, 256MB, 512MB and 1GB memory sizes. They appear to be a Chinese S1 MP3 player. Although no mention is made of Ogg Vorbis support in the documentation or on the website (only MP3 & WMA), the format is supported. MP-CS157 is a multi-media player, supporting Ogg/Vorbis as well, even if there is no mention on the box. <br />
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=== MPMan MP-160 ===<br />
: As today (23/11/09), the MP-160 does NOT play Ogg Vorbis files, although several shops and websites maintain the contrary. <br />
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=== [http://mpeye.net/ MPeye] TS-400 ===<br />
:a flash player which comes in 128MB/256MB/512MB/1GB sizes, has a FM-receiver, colour display and a voice recorder. <br />
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=== Mustek MC-1503F ===<br />
:Portable player with 1,5" colour display and 2GB of memory. The manual suggests that there are versions from 256MB to 4GB available. It only mentions MP3, WMA and WAV as supported formats but OGG Vorbis playback apparently works fine.<br />
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=== [http://www.muzio.co.kr/ Muzio's] JM200, JM250, JM300 ===<br />
:Another Korean manufacturer jumps in and offers small flash-based players with 128MB up to 1GB storage capacities. They support the usual formats MP3/WMA/Ogg Vorbis, can record voice, receive FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.nextar.com/ Nextar] 933A-1B ===<br />
:This is an inexpensive flash-based player with 1G memory. (Recently purchased on sale for $18 US at K-mart) It comes in various other memory sizes, and I suspect these other models will also play Ogg Vorbis files. There is no mention on thier web site, or in the documentation that these will play Ogg Vorbis. The "drive formatting" on this device is strange, to be able to mount this device under Linux, I had to delete all partitions (showed as 4 non-standard partitions under Linux fdisk) in linux, then put the device in a windows XP machine and recreate a single partition and format as FAT. (Simply recreating a single partition and formatting as FAT under linux didn't allow the device to see the files copied to it.)<br />
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:This seems to work on other Nextar models including MA933A<br />
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=== [http://www.neurostechnology.com/ Neuros'] [http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Neuros_II Neuros II] ===<br />
:The Neuros II, discontinued in 2005, can be used as a stand-alone flash-player. You can later buy an HDD "backpack" from 20 to 80 gigs in size and switch the backpacks as you please. This player now has a [http://open.neurosaudio.com/ free software (open-source) firmware].<br />
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=== [http://pentagram.com.tw/ Pentagram] Vanquish R SKIT ===<br />
2 or 4 GB of storage memory, USB 2.0, weighs 23 grams, plays OGG, MP3, WMA, WAV and ASF, 1.1" OLED screen.<br />
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=== [http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532817&Sku=TC3G-5012 PowerUp!] 1GB USB Player ===<br />
: Power Up! brand 1GB player, available from [http://www.tigerdirect.com TigerDirect]. The unit is either the standard S1 or Centon 1GB USB player or a clone thereof. There is no mention of Ogg Vorbis support in any of the literature, but my unit plays ogg files. Bonus!<br />
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=== [http://www.pre-view.com.tw Preview Technology] ===<br />
:Makes a number of OGG-Vorbis compatable players. Although only a handful of their players claim support for Vorbis, it appears that OGG Vorbis works on some of the models where it is not advertised. Their players are being re-branded sold as inexpensive "MP4" players. Many players by Ergotech, Vakoss, and Zicplay are based on designs by Preview.<br />
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=== Qoolqee K7 ===<br />
:Manufactured by korean electronics company Hantel, This is an interesting mix of a flash-based MP3 player and an organizer: the player has 512/1024 MB storage and contact and calendar functions and can sync with Outlook. It supports MP3, WMA and Ogg Vorbis, has FM radio and connectors for two headphones. Their webpages are gone, and the Qoolqee is most likely discontinued.<br />
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=== [http://www.allpmp.org/2008/09/20/ramos-t8-review/ RAmos] T8 ===<br />
:Lightweight 4.3-inch touchscreen screen. Screen resolution of 480×272. Uses USB connection. Based on the Rockchip RK2706 chipset.<br />
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=== Renkforce S30 ===<br />
:The Renkforce S30, sold by Conrad Electronic in Germany, and available as a 2GB and a 4GB model, is a USB stick style "S1MP3" player and plays OGG Vorbis fine. It only displays the file name and the average bitrate, but no additional Metadata. The Manual only mentions MP3 and WMA.<br />
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=== [http://rovermedia.ru/ RoverMedia] ARIA X7 ===<br />
:A portable Vorbis/MP3/WMA player with 512MB - 4GB internal flash memory, FM-receiver, recording function, picture viewer, video player.<br />
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=== [http://www.samsung.com/Products/ Samsung] / [http://www.yepp.co.kr/ Yepp] (product label), YP-C1, YP-F1, YP-MT6, YP-P2, YP-S2, YP-S3, YP-T6, YP-T7, YP-T9, YP-T10, YP-U1, YP-U2, YP-U3, YP-U4, YP-U5, YP-Z5, YP-53, YP-R1 ===<br />
:Many Yepp players support Ogg, please see [[PortablePlayers/SamsungYepp]] for more details about each model. Note: many of these models being sold into DRM-sensitive markets (e.g. the United States) are configured as MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) devices rather than as USB mass-storage drives (UMS) and may require the use of specialized software on any system with which you use them. Samsung provides Windows drivers with these devices, which may or may not be necessary on Windows systems (recent versions of Windows Media Player reportedly support these devices without a specific driver). Using MTP-based players on non-Windows PCs will require installation of additional software. Linux support for at least some of these devices is available through [http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/ libmtp] and the "generic MTP device" plugin in [http://amarok.kde.org/ Amarok]. Read the specifications on the box carefully; if it says it depends on Windows Media Player, then it's probably an MTP device which may need Windows drivers or other MTP support software.<br />
*The Samsung S3 (YP-S3) is (as of August 2008) a low-cost, internal flash memory player, with <b>official</b> out of the box support. Includes video screen. List price $80.<br />
*The [http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=mp3audiovideo&type=mp3player&subtype=mp3player&model_cd=YP-P2AB/XME Samsung P2 (YP-P2)] is an ogg vorbis supporting touch based digital audio player (2GB, 4GB, 8GB... and a 16GB likely to arrive in the U.S. early 2009, already available in Korea, Fall of 2008). The P2 also has FM radio and stereo bluetooth. In the U.S. it is likely that the device ships with MTP, but it is possible to switch it to UMS mode. Read through [http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25784&highlight=samsung+games+pack this post/guide] (from anythingbutipod.com) for instructions. Vorbis playback is only available in UMS mode. As of November 2008, the 8GB player is available for between $150 and $180.<br />
*The YP-U4 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. The included Samsung Media Studio also writes the correct track metadata for album, artist, title, etc. The player itself only reads these vorbis comments, however, after upgrading to firmware v1.28; in earlier versions the metadata information reads as 'unknown'. The device can transfer in MTP or USB mass storage modes, as selected on the device itself.<br />
*The YP-R1 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box and can be switched freely between MSC and MTP modes. However, Samsung's line as of January 2010 is that metadata is unsupported due to the lack of a global standard. (The validity of this statement being flawed in multiple ways.) See this [http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=380161 forum thread] with an official response.<br />
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=== [http://www.sansa.com/players SanDisk] Sansa Clip and Sansa Fuze ===<br />
As of 2010 the ''Sansa Clip+'' supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback out of the box. The Clip+ is the successor model of the Sansa Clip. It features at most 8 GB Flash internal memory and has a MicroSD extension slot. By default it presents itself as an USB mass storage device, though MTP mode is configurable, too. When used as USB mass storage device, music files are organized in an internal library that is kept automatically in sync (artist, album, etc. - Ogg/ID3 tags etc. are automatically read by the player), but navigation via folders is supported as well. It weights 25 g and on charge is enough for 12 h playback. In addition to this it contains a microphone, a FM transmitter and special coategories folders for podcasts and audiobooks support.<br />
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The previous ''Sansa Clip'' officially supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC playback. The ''Clip''-series is smaller than the Fuze, weighs less than one ounce (28 g - the 8 GB version; as of Feb 2009), and less expense. It features USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and belt clip. Available in 1, 2, 4 and 8 GB built-in memory. It works per default as usb mass storage device. The audio file navigation is based on an internal tag-library (artist, album etc.). This library is kept in sync by the player, when the Sansa Clip is used as USB mass storage device. Audiobooks and Podcasts are organized in special categories by the player navigation system.<br />
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The ''Fuze''-series also has bultin support for Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. It is larger and weighs two ounces. It also features a USB 2.0 cable, FM tuner with presets, microphone, and video display (for Mpeg-4 video). Available in 2, 4, and 8GB built-in memory and microSD/SDHC expansion.<br />
Official support is provided for this operating system through their message forum.<br />
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See also:<br />
* [[wikipedia:SanDisk Sansa|Wikipedia article about Sandisk Sansa models]]<br />
* [[wikipedia:Sansa Fuze|Wipedia article about the Sansa Fuze]]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=6720&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 Official firmware upgrade FAQ]<br />
* [http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&message.id=10832&query.id=3787#M10832 Summary: Don't repartition your device if you don't know what you are doing]<br />
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=== [http://www.signeo.co.jp Signeo] / [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-a800/ SN-A800], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m700/ SN-M700], [http://www.signeo.co.jp/products/sn-m600/ SN-M600]. ===<br />
:(2006-01-08) Seen in many electronics stores in Japan. The SN-A800 looks incredible — smaller than the iPod Nano, I think. I've not been able to try any for sound quality. Signeo also makes a hard drive player that supports vorbis. Their 2005-12 sales brochure claims Linux compatability for the SN-M600 and SN-M700.<br />
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=== Sumvision 1GB SV04-M18 ===<br />
:My test ogg file was created using the timidity midi player, and the format was checked using mplayer, which used the ffvorbis codec to play back the same file. While this is a Chinese made MP3 player, another Sumvision player I have does not appear to play ogg vorbis files. The SV04-M18 works as a USB mass storage device.<br />
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=== [http://www.supportplus.cn/ SupportPlus'] SP-Advance ===<br />
:Found this player in the local supermarket. The player is very small, has a 1 inch colour LCD and 1 GB of storage. Supports audio and video incl. Ogg Vorbis. The SP-Advance is not listed on their web site, but among the ones that are on the web site the 1-inch HDD Super Slim Jukebox claims Ogg Vorbis support.<br />
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=== [http://www.swissbit.com/ Swissbit's] Swissmemory s.beat ===<br />
:The s.beat is sort of an original piece of hardware, as, you may have guessed it, it is a swiss army knife with an MP3 player. It supports Ogg Vorbis too and comes in sizes of 1 up to 4 GB.<br />
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=== T-Budd ===<br />
:Korean company who makes wonderdull piece of hardware : TLN-100 which comes in 512 Mb or 1 Go. Supports MPEG 1/2/2.5/3 layer 3, WMA, ASF et OGG, PLF (proprietary video format) and works with two AAA batteries. Nice OLED display. FM radio. Very quick memory transfers. Not a usbkey type player, but a small USB adaptator is furnished, and allows the device to be plugged directly on a USB standard plug. USB2 Mass storage implemented : works perfectly under Linux. <br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-60 ===<br />
:Very small and simple device with 2GB at a low price (about 20 EUR). Although not mentioned anywhere on the homepage or inside the documentation of this device, it is capable of playing also Ogg Vorbis files out of the box. It connects via USB 2.0 cable (with which the internal accumulator is charged) and acts like a mass storage device, which is formatted via FAT32 filesystem.<br />
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=== [http://www.teac.com/ TEAC's] MP-400 ===<br />
:The MP-400 is a flash-player with either 512MB or 1024MB storage. (As of 01-2009, could not find product sold online.)<br />
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=== Tekmax T-1000 [http://www.ioneit.com/ "ioneit"] ===<br />
:256/512/1024 MB USB-connected mass storage device (flash based, uses FAT16, OS independent), 64K 4.41cm² color display, MP3/WMA/ASF/OGG support, equalizer and "3D sound", FM tuner, bookmark system, clock, stopwatch, alarm timer, record from microphone/FM as MP3, dual output, firmware upgradeable. Size: 3.5x8x1.7cm @ 40 grams. 16 hours of battery life.<br />
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=== [http://www.t-logic.it/ T-Logic] TL-258 ===<br />
:Either 2048, 4096, or 8192MB storage. Vorbis, FLAC, and MPEG-4 playback. Very small player with touch sensitive pad and FM radio.<br />
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=== [http://www.trekstor.de/ TrekStor's] blaxx, iBeat cody, iBeat organix 2.0, iBeat sonix, ===<br />
:The blaxx (also video-player) comes with TFT-disply and 2GB or 4 GB. The iBeat cody (also video-player) comes with 2/4 GB storage has a 262K color TFT-display. The iBeat organix 2.0 comes with a 2 color OLED, approx. 55h battery and 4GB or 8GB. The iBeat sonix has a large display that can be used to watch movies. It comes in sizes from 1GB to 4GB and batteries last for a period of approx. 45 hours. All player support Linux from kernel 2.4.x (identified as USB mass storage device).<br />
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:The iBeat organix 2.0 supports Ogg Vorbis out of the box. It also reads tags from media files and stores their information in an internal database so one can then search through all songs by artist, album title, song title, year etc., regardless of the actual directory structure. This works with Ogg Vorbis files, even with UTF-8 encoded "special characters" in the tags - at least roman characters with diacritics (like in ''Komm süßes Kreuz''), also ones not belonging to latin-1 (like in ''Dvořák'').<br />
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=== [http://www.turbolinux.com/ Turbolinux's] [http://www.turbolinux.com/products/wizpy/ Wizpy] ===<br />
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=== Wigo's CVM-101, CVM-103, CVM-300, CVS-100 ===<br />
:Korean players with slick design, comes in 128/256/512/1024 MB depending on models. Support MP3/WMA/Ogg, FM receiver, voice recorder. Note: Ogg bitrates supported may be limited, check the manufacturer's specification for each device for details.<br />
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=== Xcent XT100 ===<br />
:This player is sold in the U.K. and comes with 256/512MB. Supports Linux and BSD. (As of 01-2009 could not find product online.)<br />
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=== [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/ Yuraku] [http://www.yuraku.com.sg/proddetails.asp?prodid=90&catid=38 Yur.Beat Fusion Stream] ===<br />
:This is a 1GB-Flash-[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_media_player PMP], that also have a MicroSD card slot. The playback-function supports AAC, ADPCM, AIFF, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, WAV and WMA, the streaming-function MP3, WMA. FM- and Internet Radio (via "vTuner Internet Radio Index Service") are also available. PC Connection is possible via mini USB type B, USB 2.0 high speed or Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11b/g standards).</div>Gsauthof